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clearvision 05-22-2005 01:20 PM

six days is great...may have to check out blue lines

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 01:47 PM

[URL=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ETLNG57V4K6W17U2N3WIT7R8W]The (not so) Holy Gift[/URL]

Moses 05-22-2005 02:35 PM

You all should visit my Chopin Education Thread. Prog fans will love the Ballade in G minor.

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 02:36 PM

Pretty cool, man. You experimented more at the beginning and sort of let the ship take its course for the remainder of the album. Sweet.

Reywas 05-22-2005 02:47 PM

Have you guys tried Tricky?He has like 8 albums.First four are very good.Also if you're interested in trip hop check out
Lovage - Music to make love to your old lady by.It's a Mike Patton side project so you know it must be good and Archive - Londinium, supposedly the best trip hop album ever created.Unfortunately it is very rare even on slsk.
And just for the record Risingson, Group Four, Angel >>> Teardrop IMO.

Reywas 05-22-2005 02:49 PM

Have you guys tried Tricky?He has like 8 albums.First four are very good.Also if you're interested in trip hop check out
Lovage - Music to make love to your old lady by.It's a Mike Patton side project so you know it must be good and Archive - Londinium, supposedly the best trip hop album ever created.Unfortunately it is very rare even on slsk.
And just for the record Risingson, Group Four, Angel >>> Teardrop IMO.

Huber 05-22-2005 03:04 PM

That Holy Gift thing is pretty awesome. It isn't so amazing that I think it was meant to be done like that though. I bet if anyone takes an album as epic as Lateralus and thinks about it long enough and tries hard enough they could do the same thing.

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 03:08 PM

Just when i was doing it, looking at the way the tracks shaped up looked so intended. I used to be sceptical behind any deeper ideas behind the record, but it looks like it really was prepared to be toyed with and investigated with further.

There are so many ways to link the tracks, I could go for loads of orders, That order though had the most story and thought behind (the website is really something)

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 03:10 PM

[QUOTE=Nobuo>>>>=God]Have you guys tried Tricky?He has like 8 albums.First four are very good.Also if you're interested in trip hop check out
Lovage - Music to make love to your old lady by.It's a Mike Patton side project so you know it must be good and Archive - Londinium, supposedly the best trip hop album ever created.Unfortunately it is very rare even on slsk.
And just for the record Risingson, Group Four, Angel >>> Teardrop IMO.[/QUOTE]

I've heard some of Tricky's solo stuff, but personally I like his work with Massive Attack a lot more.

And on your Mezzanine comment, I think that Risingson, Inertia Creeps, Dissolved Girl, Angel, and Teardrop are the best songs on the album. Inertia Creeps is probably my favorite.

Perhaps I need to check out some more Tricky? But if you haven't checked it out already, check out Endtroducing by DJ Shadow. Napalm Brain/Scatter Brain, Midnight In A Perfect World, Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt, Organ Donor, and The Number Song are ALL great songs.

Reywas 05-22-2005 03:10 PM

Yeah but how Schism goes into Grudge and Triad into Leeches is pretty ******* incredible.

Huber 05-22-2005 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=Nobuo>>>>=God]Yeah but how Schism goes into Grudge and Triad into Leeches is pretty ******* incredible.[/QUOTE]

I thought Schism To The Grudge wasn't anything special at all. Holy crap, one song ends on a strong note, and one starts on one. You can do that with tons of things. That was the biggest dissappointment of the whole thing.

Reywas 05-22-2005 03:15 PM

I just wanted to say that the first four tracks of Mezzanine are probably the best four opening tracks I have ever heard.Good stuff up there In Chains.

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 03:16 PM

Schism - Grudge and FDO - Ticks were the parts i hate the most on that. When I make my own mix, ill work those out and probably link into different songs.

Hell, i might even go for some Ænima/Lateralus mix. Or a Best Of... mixture.


So much I can do now thanks to Adobe.

And as a side note, anyone feel that Pink Maggit by the Deftones is destined to link into Third Eye?

Huber 05-22-2005 03:17 PM

Does that Adobe Audition thing costs big bucks?

Reywas 05-22-2005 03:19 PM

I don't know.Probably the most impressive thing for me was Third Eye - 46 and 2.It just blended so nicely.I was kinda dissapointed with Stinkfist - H - Eulogy.

Kage 05-22-2005 03:22 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]
And as a side note, anyone feel that Pink Maggit by the Deftones is destined to link into Third Eye?[/QUOTE]
Hmmm...that would be really interesting. You should toy around with it.

I downloaded your Holy Gift upload, but I haven't had time to listen to it yet. I'm excited to hear it though.

Moses 05-22-2005 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Hmmm...that would be really interesting. You should toy around with it.

I downloaded your Holy Gift upload, but I haven't had time to listen to it yet. I'm excited to hear it though.[/QUOTE]
Hey you haven't been on in a while, at least the times I have. Please check out the Chopin Education Thread.

Huber 05-22-2005 03:25 PM

I don't really like how Ticks and Leeches is split up really..."Leeches" and the intermission to "Ticks and" were already incredibly well strung together. If you play the drum part (I don't know about the bass/guitar parts) you notice that they are the same part, one part is just played louder and more filled in. That little piece of Mantra into Parabol however was amazing.

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 03:28 PM

Yeah, I would have kept the ending part to it, but played Faaip De Oaid over the 'interlude' still, as I still think the bass timing is badass.

Like i say though, i kept to the suggested track list. Grudgingly at times

Dried Muffin Remnants 05-22-2005 03:44 PM

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]Schism - Grudge and FDO - Ticks were the parts i hate the most on that. When I make my own mix, ill work those out and probably link into different songs.

Hell, i might even go for some Ænima/Lateralus mix. [B]Or a Best Of... mixture.[/B]


So much I can do now thanks to Adobe.

And as a side note, anyone feel that Pink Maggit by the Deftones is destined to link into Third Eye?[/QUOTE]

I'd really be interested in a best-of. Not for me, because I like all of the songs. But a lot of my friends have only heard a few songs from them.

Adam Jones is GOD 05-22-2005 03:45 PM

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]Does that Adobe Audition thing costs big bucks?[/QUOTE]

Ebay should give you a good deal. Its usually £100+, but some generous people have ways of reducing the price it seems

Dr. Jake Destructo 05-22-2005 03:58 PM

If you guys don't want to spend the money on Audition, get Audacity. You can get enough layers going at the same time to make the Holy Gift work, I'm sure.

[url]http://audacity.sourceforge.net/[/url]

That's also the program I use for recording and mixing stuff. Works quite well. Since I'm still on dial up, I think I might try and splice Lateralus myself. It's only a 2 or 3 mb download, so it shouldn't take anyone that long. (Even me. :eek: )

wadestrong 05-22-2005 04:13 PM

tool is an amazing band, i read a whole crap load of pages on there and found it very very interesting, i really liked mantra take on things... :thumb:

YouGottaBeCrazy 05-22-2005 05:49 PM

I must say, AJIG, that I'm very dissapointed with your upload. Is this what the websites have been hyping up so much? All the changes sound so forced and out of place. Thank you for uploading it, I'm sure it was a lot of work.

Magicaltroll 05-22-2005 05:52 PM

[QUOTE=satchforever]I must say, AJIG, that I'm very dissapointed with your upload. Is this what the websites have been hyping up so much? All the changes sound so forced and out of place. Thank you for uploading it, I'm sure it was a lot of work.[/QUOTE]
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Sorry, but it is WAY overhyped if this is what it's supposed to sound like. I actually like listening to the regular way more :/

But thanks for the effort, that probably took a loong time.

Huber 05-22-2005 05:57 PM

The begining sounded really awesome, and the little bit of mantra going into Parabol was badass. Otherwise, it wasn't anything more than, "this song ends strong, this one starts strong, this one ends soft, this one starts soft," etc...

Kage 05-22-2005 06:47 PM

It's all a big mess of over-analysis on an album that shouldn't be over-analyzed.

Moses 05-22-2005 06:49 PM

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Hey you haven't been on in a while, at least the times I have. Please check out the Chopin Education Thread.[/QUOTE]
Kage^^^

Kage 05-22-2005 06:52 PM

Right. I saw that message, sorry for not responding. I'm on my way over right now. I assume you say this becuase you think it's something I'm interested in and it's not just shamlessing plugging, right? :p

Moses 05-22-2005 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Right. I saw that message, sorry for not responding. I'm on my way over right now. I assume you say this becuase you think it's something I'm interested in and it's not just shamlessing plugging, right? :p[/QUOTE]
Yes, I think you would like to hear the Ballade most of all.

Kage 05-22-2005 06:58 PM

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Yes, I think you would like to hear the Ballade most of all.[/QUOTE]
Downloading that right now. Very well-written and interesting thread. I'm very excited to hear this stuff. I'll reply in that thread with my thoughts, etc.

Moses 05-22-2005 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Downloading that right now. Very well-written and interesting thread. I'm very excited to hear this stuff. I'll reply in that thread with my thoughts, etc.[/QUOTE]
Thanks.

Idiot Martyr 05-22-2005 07:46 PM

Could someone re-upload the holy gift thing? I wasn't home so I didn't get the active link in time.

Kage 05-22-2005 07:47 PM

Sure, I'll upload it. Give me a few minutes.

Idiot Martyr 05-22-2005 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Sure, I'll upload it. Give me a few minutes.[/QUOTE]

Ah thankyou sir

Kage 05-22-2005 07:51 PM

Hold on, I just went and clicked Ben's [URL=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ETLNG57V4K6W17U2N3WIT7R8W]link[/url] and it seems to be working...

Idiot Martyr 05-22-2005 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Hold on, I just went and clicked Ben's [URL=http://s7.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ETLNG57V4K6W17U2N3WIT7R8W]link[/url] and it seems to be working...[/QUOTE]

The site says it's an invalid link when I click on it.

Kage 05-22-2005 07:56 PM

Weird. It works for me. No problem, I'm still uploading it. It's just taking awhile because it's a big file.

Idiot Martyr 05-22-2005 07:58 PM

[QUOTE=Kage]Weird. It works for me. No problem, I'm still uploading it. It's just taking awhile because it's a big file.[/QUOTE]

Thank you (again).

ridethespiral421 05-22-2005 08:07 PM

hes got audio clips of all the transitions on his page: [url]http://aiden.vzz.net/flash/lat1.html[/url]

he managed to work out the transition to schism much better than i could, funny how it such a hard piece to fit


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