the manhattan is a nice ride. i debating between that one and the groove ride.

I'd go for the Manhattan tbh, much nicer ride IMO

yeah i love the subtle overtones it has more than the groove rides. after i buy my new set, i'll start saving up for that one probably.

What about the 20" Constananoples [aka K Custom-Custom haha]. Are any of those in the sound range i'm after?

A lot of the Constantinoples are for the hard core jazz players that play just jazz. I think the High Definition ride is worth checking out. Something that would be completely different would be the 24" K Light Ride. It's got a very different sound. That 22" K(or K Custom, I'm not sure)ride that Zildjian released that they worked with Cindy Blackman is supposedly a very versatile ride, from what I hear. Those are the Zildjian's I'd recommend looking into. Try out the Constantinoples though, you may find one you really like.

Hmm maybe try the Dry Complex Ride, for a ver different sound.

[quote=XxColt13xX;15075609]BUT i'm worried about cracking cymbals...i tend to make a habit out of it.[/quote]

The thicker the cymbal is, the less give it has, the more likely it is to crack.

This is why i dont own a crash/efx cymbal over Medium-Thin weight.

Same Here, Plusi can't stand thick crashes or chinas.

Same.

My Z Custom china and my AAXplosion are my thickest crashes/efx's.

Unless you count bells. Which i dont.

Yeah..but rides thats a Different story. I've got a Med, and a Heavy Ride

Mines a heavy :)

Platinum Rock Ride.

I got me a platinum ride on the way ;)

Which one?

21" Rock Ride I believe

^ sounds nice :p

I have the 20" rock ride.

Its not great to crash.

I wont be crashing it, ill have to figure a way to use my sweet ride as a crash ride :D

Does anybody know of a cymbal that might sound like a "Zildjian Constantinople 15" Crash Special Selection Cymbal," or possibly somewhere online that I can listen to it? I can't find it on the Zildjian site, maybe I'm just stupid.

Right well, since ive cracked my first cymbal in 4 years, im gonna look for a better quality one.

It was a stagg SH 12" China. It was quick, harsh, trashy and everything a small china should be.

I want something with similar qualities but a bit smoother and darker plus a bit more durable.

14" Zildjian Oriental China?

Thats what i was thinking.

Maybe a HHSEX.

Different kettle of fish thems. Oriental is a shorter sound.

Aye but at 12", how long can the sustain be? ;)

Ive gotta head up to a drum centre to get a new crash anyway so i'll have a check around.

I no its ZXT. But the ZXT total china fits that description. Maybe not so durable though

ZXT is no way in hell dark enough.

Oh, sorry didnt see that. Maybe a K one? Or the oriental for sure!

I thought about K's but the K mini china lacks the oomph im looking for.

Hmm, did you go to the store yet? do they stock many chinas? I do highly recomend the oriental though

Not yet. Waiting for my scumbag sister to give me the money she owes me for trashing my cymbal/stand.

Hay guys, anyone had any experience with Sabian Rocktagon crashes?

I'm thinking about a 16", anyone who's used one, a summary or short review would be appreciated!

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