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i am the robots 10-02-2005 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]ITP and TSOP own Human so badly (IMO).[/QUOTE]

all of them own? i agree.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 02:57 PM

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]ITP and TSOP own Human so badly (IMO).[/QUOTE]



I love Individual Thought Patterns, It's a legendary album, so is The Sound Of Perseverance...but the drums, guitars and vocals on [I]Human[/I] make it so [I]lethal[/I], ya know? I love [I]Human[/I].


On the subject of Opeth, have you tried playing that segment from By The Pain I See In Others backwards yet? When you do, listen to The Master's Apprentices right after...trust me :thumb:

relliK 10-02-2005 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=killa_bees77]Finally, somebody other than me who likes this song. Def one of my top 5. :thumb:

Any ways, I got Ghost Reveries about 2 weeks ago. I must say im VERY disappointed. However, it is growing on me like it seems to be with a lot of people who didnt like it at first. But still, to me its one of their weakest albums, easily. The saving graces are the slow/clean sections mostly attributed to Per's magnificent keyboards and Mikael's voice (which is in top form on this disc), plus the guitarists didnt slack on their acoustic lines either. HOWEVER, the 'heavy' riffs are pure crap (with the exception of 'Ghost of Perdition' and 'the Grand Conjuration). There evilness seems to be gone and now are replaced with a lot of generic riffs. Tsk tsk tsk Mike, getting lazy are we? :rolleyes:

Any ways i hope they will stop slacking off on their heavy parts and for the next album remember that part of what makes them such a great band is the balance of good clean parts AND heavy parts. Any one else here agree?[/QUOTE]

The heavy riffs may have been taken back a bit, but this is probably Lopez' best performance, without a doubt Mendez' best performance, and Mikael's best vocal performance.Not counting the added keyboards which again, have their fair share of spotlight.This time some of focus was shifted towards other instruments.

The songs on this album are VERY WELL structured.You can listen to how well Mikael's vocals are harmonized with the guitars.They work as an essential background to attribute the vocals alot more.That kind of stuff takes alot of time to get down correctly, contrary to much belief that they rushed this album.

i am the robots 10-02-2005 03:47 PM

If only Stephen Wilson helped with Ghost Reveries... it's amazing on its own without his excellent songwriting help, imagine with it!

RouteOne 10-02-2005 03:48 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]If only Stephen Wilson helped with Ghost Reveries... it's amazing on its own without his excellent songwriting help, imagine with it![/QUOTE]
Who produced GR?

craggyisland 10-02-2005 04:08 PM

Jens Bogren produced it, I think.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 04:34 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]If only Stephen Wilson helped with Ghost Reveries... it's amazing on its own without his excellent songwriting help, imagine with it![/QUOTE]



Sadly, you can kiss that thought goodbye, Opeth now belong to Roadrunner. :angry:

RouteOne 10-02-2005 04:40 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Sadly, you can kiss that thought goodbye, Opeth now belong to Roadrunner. :angry:[/QUOTE]
I was so against them going to RR.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 04:44 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]I was so against them going to RR.[/QUOTE]


Me too, I dislike the label for reasons I do not wish to talk about. They should of stayed where they were... :upset:

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 06:13 PM

Has [B]ANYONE[/B] listened to the end segment of By The Pain I See In Others in reverse yet?! The part when Mikael is singing backwards? Try it and elaborate!
I love [I][B]The Master's Apprentices[/B][/I] so much more now! :D




[I]''Soothing trance...''[/I]

Thor 10-02-2005 06:25 PM

Just wondering, did anyone in here ever cover an Opeth song for that contest?

AA-12 10-02-2005 06:27 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Just to be sure we're on the same page, you know I'm talking about Martin Lopez, right? Ex-Drummer for Amon Amarth. His work can be heard on the albums My Arms, Your Hearse, Still Life, Blackwater Park, Deliverance, and ****ation, as well as Opeth's last release, Ghost Reveries of 2005.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I know who you meant. He can't even touch Portnoy.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Yes, I know who you meant. He can't even touch Portnoy.[/QUOTE]


Really? I've heard a lot of both and I think Lopez is far more versatile. But if you like his style, I understand :thumb:

It's all good

Thor 10-02-2005 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=Necronomicon]Yes, I know who you meant. He can't even touch Portnoy.[/QUOTE]
Few drummers can, but that doesn't mean he isn't still a really good drummer.

AA-12 10-02-2005 06:30 PM

[QUOTE=Thor]Few drummers can, but that doesn't mean he isn't still a really good drummer.[/QUOTE]
I know that, i'm such saying that Portnoy is much better, technically speaking.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=Thor]Few drummers can, but that doesn't mean he isn't still a really good drummer.[/QUOTE]


They're both good. For the type of music I listen to, Sean Reinert schools them both, but everyone has their own taste/judgement. Portnoy is godly though.

Blanka Flip 10-02-2005 06:36 PM

[QUOTE=killa_bees77]Finally, somebody other than me who likes this song. Def one of my top 5. :thumb:

Any ways, I got Ghost Reveries about 2 weeks ago. I must say im VERY disappointed. However, it is growing on me like it seems to be with a lot of people who didnt like it at first. But still, to me its one of their weakest albums, easily. The saving graces are the slow/clean sections mostly attributed to Per's magnificent keyboards and Mikael's voice (which is in top form on this disc), plus the guitarists didnt slack on their acoustic lines either. HOWEVER, the 'heavy' riffs are pure crap (with the exception of 'Ghost of Perdition' and 'the Grand Conjuration). There evilness seems to be gone and now are replaced with a lot of generic riffs. Tsk tsk tsk Mike, getting lazy are we? :rolleyes:

Any ways i hope they will stop slacking off on their heavy parts and for the next album remember that part of what makes them such a great band is the balance of good clean parts AND heavy parts. Any one else here agree?[/QUOTE]

The evilness gone? Are you forgetting when Beneath the Mire kicks into the heavy part? I havn't heard them sound that dark in a long, long while.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=Blanka Flip]The evilness gone? Are you forgetting when Beneath the Mire kicks into the heavy part? I havn't heard them sound that dark in a long, long while.[/QUOTE]


Listen to Wreath or Karma, then reply.

i am the robots 10-02-2005 06:55 PM

He said in a long while, those songs were 1997 man.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 07:03 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]He said in a long while, those songs were 1997 man.[/QUOTE]


[B]Wreath[/B] is track 1 from [B]Deliverance[/B]. ya know...the Album that came out in 2002 (Nov 12th to be exact) . Do you even [I]listen[/I] to Opeth?

i am the robots 10-02-2005 07:10 PM

Oh ****, lmao. For some reason I though you said Amen Corner... don't ask, I've been sick and disoriented all week.

killa_bees77 10-02-2005 07:23 PM

hey Flynn, I think i DID reverse the end of that song on Deliverance, it was a while ago though. You're right it was pretty kool ill have to do it again soon. Also i only heard one song from Human, Suicide Machine, and its awesome. Have you heard Paul and Sean's new band, Aeon Spoke? Really beautiful stuff if you like soft music.

Any ways, i would definetely say that Portnoy would smoke Lopez technically, but i personally enjoy Lopez's style. For one he doesnt look like a douche when he plays drums, and for two he has this really sweet latin groove to his playing thats hard to match. But thats just me. Portnoy is still awesome though.

Oh yeah, if you want to hear REAL evil riffs, listen to Godhead's Lament, Deliverance, Leper Affinity, and Wreath to name a few, thats what Opeth is really about. Nothing off of GR can light a candle to any of those songs.

Deth 10-02-2005 07:27 PM

I reversed BTPISIO as well, and it's really creepy.

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Oh ****, lmao. For some reason I though you said Amen Corner... don't ask, I've been sick and disoriented all week.[/QUOTE]


Yeah I should of said the entire album of Deliverance :lol: I just love Karma though...the intro is to fu***ng hard, especially since the riff is border line jazz morphed into distortion. Karma is a lethal song...I can't get enough of it.

i am the robots 10-02-2005 08:06 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]Yeah I should of said the entire album of Deliverance :lol: I just love Karma though...the intro is to fu***ng hard, especially since the riff is border line jazz morphed into distortion. Karma is a lethal song...I can't get enough of it.[/QUOTE]

NEWSFLASH: OPETH OWNS LIFE

gg

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 08:46 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]NEWSFLASH: OPETH OWNS LIFE

gg[/QUOTE]


And Wreath came out in 1997... :lol: You're ignorant.

ig·no·rant:
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

Darkness 10-02-2005 09:01 PM

[QUOTE=Blanka Flip]The evilness gone? Are you forgetting when Beneath the Mire kicks into the heavy part? I havn't heard them sound that dark in a long, long while.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, since Deliverance.

i am the robots 10-02-2005 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]And Wreath came out in 1997... :lol: You're ignorant.

ig·no·rant:
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.[/QUOTE]

Umm, read what I just said? I thought you had typed Amen Corner (I saw Karma and thought My Arms Your Hearse).

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Yeah, since Deliverance.[/QUOTE]


I love that album with a passion, \m/

Kaiwaz 10-02-2005 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Umm, read what I just said? I thought you had typed Amen Corner (I saw Karma and thought My Arms Your Hearse).[/QUOTE]



I don't buy it, sorry. You need to open your eyes and learn how to read, or get familiar with Opeth Discography.

Sorry for the double post.









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then you will realize you have always been worthless
not because of your anger - because you're a nobody'' [/I]


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