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Drum Phil 11-18-2006 01:10 PM

HAHA no jos, they WONT insure it.

They wont insure anything over about 1800 until you're over 25.

Oh noes, does that make you wrong? I do beleive it does.

Berk 11-18-2006 01:16 PM

Ownd.

But Jos is gonna get you back.

We_Love_Lime 11-18-2006 01:21 PM

I agree * grabs popcorn * ?

Janeway 11-18-2006 01:26 PM

Did you go in person to see if they'd insure it, Phil?

DrumIntoTheNight 11-18-2006 01:28 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime;13651708]I agree * grabs popcorn * ?[/QUOTE]

Heh, this could be interesting to watch.

Berk 11-18-2006 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=We_Love_Lime;13651708]I agree * grabs popcorn * ?[/QUOTE]

Deff. *Grabs Pringles*.

Corkofski 11-18-2006 01:44 PM

ok MX, dialema...

guy i kinda know has invited a load of chicks to sleep over his, and then me?

do i go?
good: theres chicks

bad: i have a slight cold and i snore REALLY loudly...

Josiah 11-18-2006 01:50 PM

^ why would you be sleeping?

[quote=Drum Phil;13651681]HAHA no jos, they WONT insure it.

They wont insure anything over about 1800 until you're over 25.

Oh noes, does that make you wrong? I do beleive it does.[/quote]


Sorry. You are.

Perhaps that company won't insure YOU. That's you. I wouldn't insure you for a tricycle myself.. but that's besides the point.


There is no law that states in the UK, you can not be insured under 25 for a car with an engine larger then 1800cc.


Insurrence companies will insure anyone, for anything, it's only a matter of price.

Coming from somebody who finds living on min wage "comfortable", it's really no wonder you can't find somebody to insure you. If you lead a different life style, had a different occupation and income, there's no doubt it'd be different.


And assuredly, if you drive to some rich part of town or the country, you will find rich kids driving exotic sports cars and large trucks. It's true in every country, and most certiantly yours.




I'd recomend doing some research, deals particularly with 18-25 yr old drivers in the UK - [url]http://www.insureyourmotor.com/[/url]


If you walked into a mercades dealership there, I'm sure they wouldn't sell you are a car. It's not that they don't sell Benz's to people your age... they won't sell one to you.


*Did some quick math. 1800cc is 106 cubic inchs. Now I can relate.. you are saying no insurrence companies will insure a car with an engine bigger then 110 cubic inches!! WHAHAHAHHAA

HAHAHHAHA

That's means insurence companies won't insure any car larger then a 4cyl engine in the UK.



So everyone under 25 in the UK is driving around 4cl engine cars?

AHHAHA I don't think so....

My truck's V6 is 262 cubic inches, that's 4300cc... and I don't even have a BIG engine.

BTW - that's a tiny V8..

goalieman92 11-18-2006 01:50 PM

take some airborne and drink alot of caffine and don't sleep.

go

We_Love_Lime 11-18-2006 01:51 PM

just
don't sleep.

and suck up the cold.
Take it like a man.

Personally I wouldn't go, because I'm anti-social

Bonham#1! 11-18-2006 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=Corkofski;13651791]ok MX, dialema...

guy i kinda know has invited a load of chicks to sleep over his, and then me?

do i go?
good: theres chicks

bad: i have a slight cold and i snore REALLY loudly...[/QUOTE]

Go man, and pull an all nighter if your worried about snorring.

Corkofski 11-18-2006 01:55 PM

i love you mx

but im taking russian mineral water, so i dunno bout caffiene

SparBZ 11-18-2006 02:05 PM

Use that snoring stuff you squirt up your nose to stop you from snoring if you're that worried. (Think of it as snorting some nice herbs)

SparBZ 11-18-2006 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah;13651817]^ why would you be sleeping?




Sorry. You are.

Perhaps that company won't insure YOU. That's you. I wouldn't insure you for a tricycle myself.. but that's besides the point.


There is no law that states in the UK, you can not be insured under 25 for a car with an engine larger then 1800cc.


Insurrence companies will insure anyone, for anything, it's only a matter of price.

Coming from somebody who finds living on min wage "comfortable", it's really no wonder you can't find somebody to insure you. If you lead a different life style, had a different occupation and income, there's no doubt it'd be different.


And assuredly, if you drive to some rich part of town or the country, you will find rich kids driving exotic sports cars and large trucks. It's true in every country, and most certiantly yours.




I'd recomend doing some research, deals particularly with 18-25 yr old drivers in the UK - [url]http://www.insureyourmotor.com/[/url]


If you walked into a mercades dealership there, I'm sure they wouldn't sell you are a car. It's not that they don't sell Benz's to people your age... they won't sell one to you.


*Did some quick math. 1800cc is 106 cubic inchs. Now I can relate.. you are saying no insurrence companies will insure a car with an engine bigger then 110 cubic inches!! WHAHAHAHHAA

HAHAHHAHA

That's means insurence companies won't insure any car larger then a 4cyl engine in the UK.



So everyone under 25 in the UK is driving around 4cl engine cars?

AHHAHA I don't think so....

My truck's V6 is 262 cubic inches, that's 4300cc... and I don't even have a BIG engine.

BTW - that's a tiny V8..[/QUOTE]

Though there might not be a law, insurance companies are "be eye tee see eych"s

They won't want to insure it.

DrumIntoTheNight 11-18-2006 02:16 PM

Jos, it's not to do with laws, but just in general, 99% of British insurance companies won't insure anyone under 25 with cars over a certain sized engine capacity. Insurance on this side of the pond can be £2000 for a 1.6 or similiar, and I know people who pay up to £4000 a year, just because they mod their cars (which raises the cost) and have a slightly bigger engine.

There's so many accidents involving young people that most insurance companies just wont touch under 25's with powerful cars.

Corkofski 11-18-2006 02:19 PM

jos, i know its hard, but accept you are wrong...


i can arrange for psychiatric help if its that damaging to you...

Drum Phil 11-18-2006 02:25 PM

I was guessing at the engine sizes. From researching:

Its a 12 cylinder, 5343.00 cc engine.

DrumIntoTheNight 11-18-2006 02:29 PM

Lol, I just tried to get a quote, being 18 with no years of no-claims bonus, and it redirected me to another site, telling me that I didnt fit their acceptable terms. Oops, and the same story on the site it directed me to. Getting insurance for anything can be hard in the UK, at this sort of age.

Win A Rabbit 11-18-2006 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=Loser;13648312][QUOTE=Win A Rabbit]ex-addicts[/QUOTE]Don't exist.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. One of the girls that came yesterday has been clean for exactly 2 years as of today, and the other for just over a year and a half.

Sure, they both relapsed once, but they're not really in the position where they'll easily slip back into it. They're going around to a different place every friday to give talks to kids, with a cop and an Alcohol and Drug Abuse Comission worker tagging along, and they keep in close contact with the Alcohol and Drug Abuse Comission worker. They go regularly to the hospital to get blood tests done to see if they've been slipping some when those around them aren't paying attention. They seeked help, and help is readily available to keep them away from falling back into it.

I asked them a bunch of questions, as they came half an hour early and didn't know anyone here, then they stuck around afterwards and talked with me and my friends.

Overall it was a great presentation. It wasn't a "every time you do drugs a cute little puppy dies" kind of presentation that has no effect on anyone, but it was a brutally honest educational presentation that actually effected me alot.

Josiah 11-18-2006 02:35 PM

[quote=Corkofski;13651944]jos, i know its hard, but accept you are wrong...


i can arrange for psychiatric help if its that damaging to you...[/quote]


You can't. Because I am exactly right.


It might cost more, but it's non the less available. Might be hard to get, but it's there.



By the way, it's self defeating to say "they don't insure them... because accidents with them"


If they didn't insure them, then it wouldn't be an issue would it? So obviouslly if there ARE young drivers getting in accidents with powerful cars, then there ARE insurence companies that cover them.

Duh.




I have a friend who lives in the UK. He's 24, he drives a BMW Z4 Coupe. He's got insurrence. He is pretty wealthy, but he got it.

My Ex-GF is moving to the UK in January, she's bringing her car. She's 22, It's a Saturn 2 door coupe with a V6, nothing too sporty by American standards, but well over that 1800cc line. She's got insurence lined up for when she moves...

Panopticon 11-18-2006 02:36 PM

[quote=Drum Phil;13651967]I was guessing at the engine sizes. From researching:

Its a 12 cylinder, 5343.00 cc engine.[/quote]

Not to be rude, but how can you mix up a V8 and V12?

you can tell just by looking.

I can understand if you forgot or something though.

Josiah 11-18-2006 02:39 PM

HAha ya BIG difference...

DrumIntoTheNight 11-18-2006 02:40 PM

I didnt say it was because of accidents with powerful cars, it's accidents in general, involving younger people, pushing the cost up, and the margin of capacity they will insure, down.

Try it yourself, since you seem so keen on doing your research. I just tried 5 insurance companies from the UK, and they wont quote me because of my age, let alone if I had a 5343 cc car aswell.

Edit: They may well insure someone at 25, I couldnt be bothered to go through all those forms again.

Corkofski 11-18-2006 02:45 PM

i think jos deserves some neg rep

Talos 11-18-2006 02:45 PM

Off topic but thats what this thread is about - Does anyone use Remo Fiberskyns on any of their drums?

I went to a recording studio a few months ago and there was this Vintage Premier kit that had Fiberskyns on the toms, not on the bass or snare.

So if you do, what do they sound like.

Josiah 11-18-2006 02:45 PM

Why?

The point was simply, somebody under 25 can have a car with an eingine bigger then 1800cc and be inssurred.

Nobody said it would take more or less work, or cost more or less.

Phil flat out said nobody does it. And that's simply not true.


It just might take more work and money.


I mean, think about it for a moment - if you were wealthy, and came from a wealthy family. Do you think it'd even be an issue getting insurence for your Hummer? Or Benz? Or whatever it is you choose to drive?

No. It wouldn't. Everyone knows that, that's why people dislike the rich.

It might be a bitch for the average person. But that's just cause the companies make it so.

Drum Phil 11-18-2006 02:50 PM

[quote=enemytopublic2;13652028]Not to be rude, but how can you mix up a V8 and V12?

you can tell just by looking.

I can understand if you forgot or something though.[/quote]

Its a long while since ive popped the hood.

Josiah 11-18-2006 02:58 PM

What model Jag is it?

Drum Phil 11-18-2006 03:03 PM

XJS.

Needs a respray and a bit of wiring done but thats it.

I sort the interiors cause i hate cream leather.

raz0r 11-18-2006 03:04 PM

[QUOTE=DrumIntoTheNight;13651936]Jos, it's not to do with laws, but just in general, 99% of British insurance companies won't insure anyone under 25 with cars over a certain sized engine capacity. [/QUOTE]

What about all those rich fu[SIZE="2"]c[/SIZE]kers who get ferraris for their 17th birthdays?

[B]Someone[/B] must be insuring them...


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