1) Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
2) Nope
3) Nope

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]1) Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
2) Nope
3) Nope[/QUOTE]

So they're playing minus a drummer.... That should suck...:naughty:

:lol: I would still go.

It's Martin3 who's playing.

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]:lol: I would still go.

It's Martin3 who's playing.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah, ive heard of him. Does anyone know the latest news on Lopez? Is he gonna pull through?:confused:

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]:lol: I would still go.

It's Martin3 who's playing.[/QUOTE]

Yeah for sure I'd go!! To see them performing Damnation stuff would be awesome! I'm sure I'd start crying...

I hope so. He's my favorite drummer of all time.

^To Flabbit

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I hope so. He's my favorite drummer of all time.

^To Flabbit[/QUOTE]

He is really amazing! I think my Favorite drummers are Nick Barker, Mike Portnoy, Mr Lopez, Faust, Gene Hoglan and Dave Lombardo... The stuff that guy did on The Gathering for Testament is inspirational!

Who does Nick Barker play for?

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]Who does Nick Barker play for?[/QUOTE]

He recently was ousted from Dimmu Borgir... He is Lightnin Fast!!!

The drummer for Mithras makes me cry with his lightning fast speed.Don't know his name?

Cheers for the recommendations lads. I've just ordered BWP so it should be here in a couple of days, i'll post my views about it when I get it.

[QUOTE=The Flabbit Rides High]I still stand by my argument that BWP is the heaviest album Opeth has released.[/QUOTE]

Hello? Demon Of The Fall? The Amen Corner? Deliverance?

The heaviest I've heard Opeth get is the first 20 seconds of "Demon" and towards the end of The Amen Corner
"eerie circles upon the waters"
and then it breaks out into this almost black metallish part.

You could say the production on MAYH plays a big part in those two songs heaviness.

[QUOTE=lost_profits]Hello? Demon Of The Fall? The Amen Corner? Deliverance?[/QUOTE]
He was talking about as an album. But either way, Blackwater Park (song) is the heaviest Opeth has done, IMO.

I'd say that, song-wise, the first riff in Master's Apprentice is pretty heavy. That could just be because of the contrast with the previous song, though. Also, later in the song there's that whole acoustic many voices section, as well.

Way to change my opinion toward the end of my post.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]He was talking about as an album. But either way, Blackwater Park (song) is the heaviest Opeth has done, IMO.[/QUOTE]

Im with you on this one. That song is darn right freaky towards the end.:eek:

I think it's sort of hard to say which Opeth album is the heaviest. Well, for starters, you can definitely rule out Morningrise (a lot of acoustics, not too heavy), Orchid (not that heavy), and Ghost Reveries (very prog), Still Life (sad and dissonant sounding but also very folky... not their heaviest) and Damnation (duh). So that leaves us with BWP, Deliverance and MAYH. I would rule out BWP, because really it doesn't feel that heavy. And a few of the heavy songs don't even have that much death metal vox. So with that, I would choose MAYH as the heaviest, even though Deliverance is pretty heavy. MAYH just feels the most brutal, and maybe the not-so-clean-cut production lends a hand in that.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]I think it's sort of hard to say which Opeth album is the heaviest. Well, for starters, you can definitely rule out Morningrise (a lot of acoustics, not too heavy), Orchid (not that heavy), and Ghost Reveries (very prog), Still Life (sad and dissonant sounding but also very folky... not their heaviest) and Damnation (duh). So that leaves us with BWP, Deliverance and MAYH. I would rule out BWP, because really it doesn't feel that heavy. And a few of the heavy songs don't even have that much death metal vox. So with that, I would choose MAYH as the heaviest, even though Deliverance is pretty heavy. MAYH just feels the most brutal, and maybe the not-so-clean-cut production lends a hand in that.[/QUOTE]

I would say that MAYH has less growling than BWP. Yes, the production isn't as good as BWP, but that e-bow is used very much so in BWP, and not to be found on MAYH.

Not that that is the only thing that creates heavyness, but the songs on MAYH tend to follow the same formula as say Still Life, where as songs such as The Leper Affinity, The Funeral Portrait and Blackwater Park tend to be more agressive with less acoustic/clean vocal melodic parts.

I would say this justifies my answer, but of course other people are going to understand different albums differently. Thats what makes this so much fun.;)

[QUOTE=cos you know that i can]I'd say that, song-wise, [B]the first riff in Master's Apprentice is pretty heavy.[/B] That could just be because of the contrast with the previous song, though. Also, later in the song there's that whole acoustic many voices section, as well.

Way to change my opinion toward the end of my post.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that riff is pretty awsome, especialy when the vocals come in. The whole song is good.

[QUOTE=The Flabbit Rides High]I would say that MAYH has less growling than BWP. Yes, the production isn't as good as BWP, but that e-bow is used very much so in BWP, and not to be found on MAYH.

Not that that is the only thing that creates heavyness, but the songs on MAYH tend to follow the same formula as say Still Life, where as songs such as The Leper Affinity, The Funeral Portrait and Blackwater Park tend to be more agressive with less acoustic/clean vocal melodic parts.

I would say this justifies my answer, but of course other people are going to understand different albums differently. Thats what makes this so much fun.;)[/QUOTE]
Hmm... well, BWP may have more huge heavy riffs, but MAYH just feels so much darker and ultimately heavier. Darkness kind of goes hand in hand with heaviness, and Blackwater Park as a whole doesn't come close in terms of darkness to the sorrowful sounds of MAYH.

I ment that the song Blackwater Park, is heavier then any other Opeth song. Feel free to disagree, this is simply what I believe. It has the crunch in the guitars as well as extremely heavy riffing combined with sinister vocals + lyrics to = a song that can't be compared to in heaviness. :p

Deliverance (song) is pretty heavy, but the guitars have this hollow sound going on, which is cool, but not as crunchy or low sounding as BWP.

And Demon Of The Fall just has heavy vocals, the music, while still heavy sounding, isn't THAT heavy.

MAYH has less growling than BWP? :confused:

Most of the vox on MAYH is growling and in most songs it's just growl then the odd clean bit. I have to disagree. In general, the heaviest Opeth album I own is MAYH, i mean, just listen to the first 2 minutes of The Amen Corner *drools*

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed] And Demon Of The Fall just has heavy vocals, the music, while still heavy sounding, isn't THAT heavy.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i think the vocals in theat song contribute a lot to the heaviness of it.
Though i would say that theres parts in the song which are more darker sounding then heavy musicaly.

That songs has one of my favorite growls by the way.

[QUOTE=ok lateralus][B]Darkness kind of goes hand in hand with heaviness[/B][/QUOTE]
Nope.

It's hard to say which Opeth album is the heaviest. I think it's either MAYH or Deliverance.

Still Life is becoming my favorite Opeth album.

[QUOTE=Kage]Nope.[/QUOTE]

Really? Name me one album that is extremely ****in heavy yet also bright as a ray of sunshine

[QUOTE]
It's hard to say which Opeth album is the heaviest. I think it's either MAYH or Deliverance.[/QUOTE]

I'd say Deliverance, I mean that was the goal.

[QUOTE]Still Life is becoming my favorite Opeth album.
[/QUOTE]
*high fives*

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Really? Name me one album that is extremely ****in heavy yet also bright as a ray of sunshine[/QUOTE]
Maybe that way, but then again, things can be dark without being heavy. In fact, things can be [i]a lot[/i] darker without being heavy.

But, still, there's a lot of stuff that's heavy without being particularly dark. Power Metal for example. Or Metallica.

I think the opening of The Leper Affinity is the heaviest thing Opeth have ever done. The palm muting, the dissonance, the speed are all something Opeth don't use too much (besides the dissonance), and it suits that song really well. It's coincidentally the first Opeth song I ever heard; :D

I think the opening to April Ethereal is pretty heavy. And amazingly amazing.

I love the end solo of A Fair Judgement, especially on Lamentations (the one that goes from like 6:25 to 7:25 or so)

It makes me orgasm everytime for some reason, heh

On Lamentations it's twice as good. I'm going to listen to that right now just because of that part.

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]On Lamentations it's twice as good. I'm going to listen to that right now just because of that part.[/QUOTE]

Dang I need to get Lamentations. I've never heard any live Opeth. How does it compare to their studio work?

Live is normally faster and better.

[QUOTE=Son of Northern Darkness]He recently was ousted from Dimmu Borgir... He is Lightnin Fast!!![/QUOTE]

He's also godawful. Very sloppy, relies heavily on triggers, and has no groove whatsoever. I heard that Dimmu was going to use Hellhammer on their latest album....the band might actually be worth listening to!

Don't triggers just make the drums sound more even or something? That's what I heard anyway

[QUOTE=Creeping_Deth]I think the opening to April Ethereal is pretty heavy. And amazingly amazing.[/QUOTE]


The entire song is amazing, one of my favorites. I just love the outro. \m/














[I]''I don't know how or why, and I'll never know [U][I]When[/I]''[/I][/U]

[QUOTE=vashts80]Live is normally faster and better.[/QUOTE]

Not in A Fair Judgement's case on Lamentations. I was a bit disappointed that they noticably slowed the tempo down. It's still awesome though.




And to the darkness = heavy or whatever:

Don't you think that Damnation is dark? Hell yes it is, but I wouldn't go about calling it heavy.

[QUOTE=bucket]Don't you think that Damnation is dark? Hell yes it is, but I wouldn't go about calling it heavy.[/QUOTE]
Right. That's the gist of what I was saying. :)

I think he ment that when somethings heavy, [I]and[/I] dark, its made even heavier. Not that something dark is instantly heavy.

[QUOTE=Flynn]The entire song is amazing, one of my favorites. I just love the outro. \m/














[I]''I don't know how or why, and I'll never know [U][I]When[/I]''[/I][/U][/QUOTE]

Yeah, I love that. And then the riff that closes it out is so beautiful

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Hmm... well, BWP may have more huge heavy riffs, but MAYH just feels so much darker and ultimately heavier. Darkness kind of goes hand in hand with heaviness, and Blackwater Park as a whole doesn't come close in terms of darkness to the sorrowful sounds of MAYH.[/QUOTE]

The song BWP, man if they just cut it by 3 or 4 minutes it could end up to be one of my all time favs. The ending (that acoustic part) does virtually nothing for me. But yeah that first Edge Of Sanity like acoustic part just rules.

MAYH is easily Opeth's darkest album. I'll listen to BWP, Still Life, Deliverance (thanks my trusty IPOD) as I nod off to sleep, and most times the music can help me drift off to sleep. When I put MAYH on this whole different darkness comes over me.
It's by no means an easy listen.