ha i agree ^ b/c he can pretty much :p

how good are AA Metal X crashes from Sabian?

Meh.

[QUOTE=XMII;15075175]Meh.[/QUOTE]

not too good?

No.

What sound are you wanting?

Yeah. They are very one-dimensional.

I play thrash metal and i've got xs 20's right now...i want something better for sure. I don't play much jazz or anything else. I just play all types of metal so..

Try AAX stage crashes/HH Rock crashes/HHXtreme crashes. All good for thrash

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;15075568]Try AAX stage crashes/HH Rock crashes/HHXtreme crashes. All good for thrash[/QUOTE]

BUT i'm worried about cracking cymbals...i tend to make a habit out of it.

[QUOTE=XxColt13xX;15075609]BUT i'm worried about cracking cymbals...i tend to make a habit out of it.[/QUOTE]

Then you probably have technique issues.

[QUOTE=spirit;15075613]Then you probably have technique issues.[/QUOTE]

probably

Yep. If you break ANY of the cymbals I listed your an idiot and shouldnt play drums

[QUOTE=XxColt13xX;15075653]probably[/QUOTE]

Then may I advise working those issues out first?

[QUOTE=oliv_da_skinmasher;15075660]Yep. If you break ANY of the cymbals I listed your an idiot and shouldnt play drums[/QUOTE]

No, don't be that harsh.

You do need to develop better technique though.

Most of them are pretty hardcore cymbals tbh. I didn't mean to sound harsh tho

yeah, it doesn't matter. i probably have bad technique but whatever. i'm kinda trying to work on it. it just seems like i just hit a bit too hard...I'm not saying i crack a cymbal every month. i've played like a year and cracked two though.

Yeah, Hitting hard isn't a problem, I SMASH at my cymbals, but have never broken anything(except a wuhan china thats bell exploded) it's how you hit them not how hard

[QUOTE]Correct Playing Technique
Avoid Undue Shock Circular Cuts Example The cymbal's edge is the thinnest and most delicate part so how you strike it and at which angle is very important. It is generally best to angle the cymbal at a downward position so you will be able to hit it with a glancing blow. You can also strike the cymbal using a pull back stroke technique (see fig. 14 a & b), which avoids undue shock and stress to the cymbal. Hitting the cymbal dead on in a mounted position (see photo 3), will cause unnecessary stress and breakage. This stress does not allow the cymbal to vibrate correctly, and often a player will tend to overplay the cymbal because of incorrect angles and heights.

Sometimes drummers prefer mounting their cymbals all flat, usually for visual effect. If you choose to do this, we suggest you mount your cymbals low enough to strike them with glancing blows. This will make them last a long time while achieving the look you want.

Remember to choose the right cymbal for the situation. An example of a poor choice would be a small, light cymbal for Heavy Metal music. Overplaying a cymbal will not give you more sound, it will only cause the cymbal to break before its time. Overplaying also makes you work harder than necessary. Spend time getting familiar with your cymbals and their dynamic ranges. The more you know about them, the better you will play them.
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Taken from: [url]http://paiste.com/faqs/[/url]

That whole page is worth reading.

[QUOTE=fishbulb;15076009]Taken from: [url]http://paiste.com/faqs/[/url]

That whole page is worth reading.[/QUOTE]

thanks man. I was contemplating changing my setup to angle my cymbals down at me a little more.




Okay yall have said that the aa metal x's are one dimensional, care to elaborate? how do they sound? how is the decay?

I've never played them, but apparently they only fit metal, so if you do try to play softer rock or funk, they will sound too trashy and "in your face". Also, you can only get one sound out of them, and are "one-dimensional". A Customs produce a wide array of different sounds depending on how you play it, whereas the Metal-X's have one main sound to them.

for now i think i'll order the aa metal x 16 and 18's with a free splash

then later upgrade my kit to maybe some a customs

^ Light, thin cymbals actually tend to last longer, haha, they're less brittle.

i love my a customs. you cant go wrong with them. if you dont get a chance to play them at least try to get a sound clip. i have a 16'' and a 14'' fast crash. both are really good but i love the 16'' sound. im reallying thinking about a 17'' or a 19'' eventually b/c i dont care too much for the sound of the 18'' but then again i like the K's :P

[QUOTE=TTTSNB;15076741]^ Light, thin cymbals actually tend to last longer, haha, they're less brittle.[/QUOTE]

to a point. There comes a point where a cymbal is SO thin that it's actually more likely to shatter.


for most really heavy players, that point is somewhere around a "medium" or "medium light" weight.


and Z customs are horrid because of the hammering pattern, not cuz of the thickness.

[QUOTE=XxColt13xX;15076722]for now i think i'll order the aa metal x 16 and 18's with a free splash

then later upgrade my kit to maybe some a customs[/QUOTE]

But Metal-Xs cost practically the same amount as A Customs so you might as well save your money and get what you want first. It's like saying that you want a $10,000 car, but you will get a $9,900 car first so you can save and upgrade to the $10,000 car later. Not practical.

Alright, can't decide which to pair with my 22" K Heavy:
20" HHX Manhattan Ride, 20" K Crash-Ride or 20" K Ride.

Needed for multiple styles of a mostly low to medium volume setting.

what is your setup?

[quote=fastlane;15082107]what is your setup?[/quote]

13" K/Z Special Hats
16" K Custom Special Dry Crash
22" K Heavy Ride
two splashes [I own a selection of 8 currently]
18" Amun Medium [occasionally, recent purchase]

Play mostly medium volume stuff, church, jazz, blues, latin-funk, rock.

id go with the crash ride to give you a little more diversity but thats just me. the 20" might not be a big change from the heavy ride and your looking for something to complement the sound but not be really close to it right? idk much about the hhx cymbal.

The HHX. Its a great sounding cymbal