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WheepingGuitar39 07-29-2005 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Yeah, when I learned it wasn't Gilmour playing that second solo... I was heartbroken.[/QUOTE]
tell me about it :(

btw, did you notice that plane at the end of On The Run, just before Time
it just flies through the arena and blows up RIGHT over a bunch of fans
what's up with that

DeusExMachina 07-29-2005 11:55 AM

The plane is because that's what the song is supposed to be about. You hear the panting and the running and the weird voice, right? Well, it's supposed to be an airport, where the running and panting is a guy trying to get to his flight. The weird talking is someone talking on a loud speaker thingie. Anywho, he doesn't manage to make it, and misses his flight. Lucky him, however, as you hear the plane crashing at the end of the song. So, the plane was supposed to represent that.

Lunch 07-29-2005 11:56 AM

I never knew that, or would have guessed.

WheepingGuitar39 07-29-2005 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]The plane is because that's what the song is supposed to be about. You hear the panting and the running and the weird voice, right? Well, it's supposed to be an airport, where the running and panting is a guy trying to get to his flight. The weird talking is someone talking on a loud speaker thingie. Anywho, he doesn't manage to make it, and misses his flight. Lucky him, however, as you hear the plane crashing at the end of the song. So, the plane was supposed to represent that.[/QUOTE]
Yea but..
like.. didnt people get burned when that thing blows up?

moaner 07-29-2005 02:47 PM

Pigs (3 Different Ones)
 
[QUOTE]Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are. [/QUOTE]

The "pig" refers to the greedy, thoughtless capitalist, interested only in looking richer and exercising more power. Roger laughs in the face of these people, pointing out what a joke they are- their image of success and having all that they want is a big farce.

[QUOTE]And when your hand is on your heart,
You're nearly a good laugh,
Almost a joker,
With your head down in the pig pen,
Saying "Keep on digging."
Pig stain on your fat chin.
What do you hope to find.
When you're down in the pig mine.[/QUOTE]

The "pig" is able to give commands to those like him (those in the pig pen) since he is richer and more powerful than they are. They, like him, are desperate to assert themselves in society. Roger asks his hypothetical character what he really thinks he is achieving pulling these strings.

[QUOTE]You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry. [/QUOTE]
It should be funny, that the pig is so pathetic, but in reality, it’s a bit sad really.

[QUOTE]Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
You ****ed up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
You're nearly a good laugh,
You like the feel of steel,
You're hot stuff with a hatpin,
And good fun with a hand gun.
You're nearly a laugh,
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry. [/QUOTE]

Imagine an elderly woman. She is sickened by bikinis, the F word and (horror of horrors) rock musicians, with their dirty long hair, foul mouths and loud music. Surely it shouldn't be allowed!

However, once again Roger makes a mockery of this cold woman (radiating glass being a very effective metaphor, for me at least), pointing out that she's barely worth laughing at (Almost worth a quick grin). On top of this, Roger suggests this woman has no real skills at all- she can make herself look presentable (hot stuff with a hit pin) and that's about it- despite her feelings that she is doing society a favour, she actually contributes nothing.

The "you like the feel of steel" lines probably suggest the inclination of these people to assert their authority through whatever means necessary.

[QUOTE]Hey you, Whitehouse,
Ha ha charade you are.
You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street. [/QUOTE]

A bit more blunt now. Whitehouse was a person who complained about sex and violence on television and (or so I believe, I wasn't actually there :D) led a campaign against this. Roger thought this was a bit of a joke really- what right had she to tell people what they could and couldn't see? Roger makes a mockery of this woman- the line "house proud town mouse" to me being the most cutting, telling us she's nothing more than a housewife with ideas above her station.

[QUOTE]You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet [/QUOTE]

Think of a "Hyacinth Bucket" type of person. For those Americans who don't know who she is, she was a character in a British comedy about a woman of humble origins who tried much too hard to be respectable and posh, much to her neighbour's and vicar's annoyance. The woman was very much "stiff upper lip" and always entirely "proper".

[QUOTE]And do you feel abused? [/QUOTE]

Do the "offensive" images on television really make you feel so terrible? Is it really that much of a problem to you?

[QUOTE]....! .....! .....! .....! [/QUOTE]

Oink.

[QUOTE]You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.[/QUOTE]

People should resist their urges and pretend that they don't think about sex, violence etc- maintaining their "charade" of being "good", "moral" people.

[QUOTE]Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry. [/QUOTE]

You're intentions are good, but its pathetic that you feel so strongly inclined to "protect" people from these things.

Modestbob 07-29-2005 02:51 PM

[url]http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/29th06200503.htm[/url]
^Check this out

Apprentlly Jonny Depp would like to do a movie on Syd Barrett.

moaner 07-29-2005 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=Modestbob][url]http://www.rogerwatersonline.com/roger_waters_news/29th06200503.htm[/url]
^Check this out

Apprentlly Jonny Depp would like to do a movie on Syd Barrett.[/QUOTE]
I'd probably have evry mixed feelings about that.

BlackDeathMetalJazz or really ANYTHING else please- 07-29-2005 02:58 PM

I really hope he does it. Johnny Deep's a great actor and I'd love to see a movie about Syd. :thumb:

WheepingGuitar39 07-29-2005 03:04 PM

That is AMAZING
A M A Z I N G

Johnny B. Good 07-29-2005 03:36 PM

Id like to see a Syd Barrett movie

robo2448 07-29-2005 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Johnny B. Good]Id like to see a Syd Barrett movie[/QUOTE]

Me too. It would be cool. I'd like to know more about Barrett.

appreciate_it 07-29-2005 04:20 PM

i personally think johnny depp is a great actor. The only thing is, i hope we don't get teenage girls thinking Syd Barrett was anything like Johnny depp, you know.. and then we'll have all the teenage girls running round with Pink t-shirts on.. but im sure that wont happen.... But that would be great, hes a great actor and a good guy.

Purple Floyd 07-29-2005 04:29 PM

That'd be cool I guess...

I just saw Willy Wonka yesterday, and boy is that one phucked up movie. I had to double check I wasn't tripping on acid when I saw some of those oompa loompa songs.

robo2448 07-29-2005 05:04 PM

[QUOTE=Purple Floyd]

I just saw Willy Wonka yesterday, and boy is that one phucked up movie. I had to double check I wasn't tripping on acid when I saw some of those oompa loompa songs.[/QUOTE]

I heard that movie is amazing if you're high.

Purple Floyd 07-29-2005 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]I heard that movie is amazing if you're high.[/QUOTE]

Definitely

Does anyone have any other Floyd concert besides Pulse, Live in Venice, and The Wall bootleg?

moaner 07-29-2005 05:23 PM

[QUOTE=Purple Floyd]Definitely

Does anyone have any other Floyd concert besides Pulse, Live in Venice, and The Wall bootleg?[/QUOTE]

the best?

Pompeii.

robo2448 07-29-2005 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=moaner]the best?

Pompeii.[/QUOTE]

/adds to wishlist.

//realizes has already added to wishlist a hundred times but never finds it :upset:

BludgeonySteve 07-29-2005 05:33 PM

Does anyone ever think that Syd Barret wasn't a lyrical genius, just a nut case?

From Bike:

I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.



Dude, I mean, cmon.

Purple Floyd 07-29-2005 05:33 PM

I bought Pompei a while ago. Worth every penny.

Purple Floyd 07-29-2005 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]Does anyone ever think that Syd Barret wasn't a lyrical genius, just a nut case?

From Bike:

I know a mouse and he hasn't got a house.
I don't know why I call him Gerald.
He's getting rather old but he's a good mouse.



Dude, I mean, cmon.[/QUOTE]

Yeah man, when I first heard that song, I was like wtf? :lol: :confused: :angry:

None of his lyrics really make that much sense though.

BludgeonySteve 07-29-2005 05:37 PM

No doubt that Rodger and David were brilliant writers. Just not Syd.

robo2448 07-29-2005 05:40 PM

Bike is a catchy song though, you've got to give him credit for that. His lyrics don't make any sense, but their hilarious to listen to.

/runs before Schyma sees this discussion.

temporary 07-29-2005 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=RNR]No doubt that Rodger and David were brilliant writers. Just not Syd.[/QUOTE]

I agree, but I'd still love to see Depp in a movie about him. He's such an enigmatic character...

pigonthewing82 07-29-2005 06:24 PM

In my opinion Syd was a great writer, I mean yes a lot of his stuff does not make sense, but his stuff does tend to spark an emotion in you, and it defenetly, or at least for me, gets you thinking creativly. I mean you know exactly how down Syd was feeling when he wrote Jugband Blues or how happy (or high) he was when he wrote Bike. His stuff is suppose to speak to your soul instead of your head. Why I think Gilmour was such a good replacment for Syd is because his guitar riffs and solo's speak to your soul the way Syd's lyrics did.

Purple Floyd 07-29-2005 06:26 PM

Hey your back! How did that whole court thing go, or whatever happened?

pigonthewing82 07-29-2005 06:33 PM

[QUOTE=Purple Floyd]Hey your back! How did that whole court thing go, or whatever happened?[/QUOTE]

Yeah I've been busy, I haven't been home for more then 2 days all summer. Yeah they dropped the charges they said there wasn't enough evidence (as there shouldn't be since I didnt do it) that I destroyed the property in that building, as there shouldn't be since I didn't do it.

Since then I've compleated my Pink Floyd collection by Picking up Delicate Sound of Thunder, whitch is very good, I was supprised to see One of These Days on there.

WheepingGuitar39 07-29-2005 07:11 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]/adds to wishlist.

//realizes has already added to wishlist a hundred times but never finds it :upset:[/QUOTE]
man
have you guys heard of limewire

i got Echoes Part 1 and 2, and One of these days, all live in Pompeii (videos)
off of limewire

ATM 07-29-2005 07:30 PM

Limewire is great. I got live in pompeii from it, as well.

Corn Dog 07-29-2005 09:49 PM

Live in Venice owns

Rusty_Shacklefur 07-29-2005 10:17 PM

you know i really dont like syd that much. i wouldnt be too interested in a movie about him either. i just dont see why anybody would call him a "genious"


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