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rockinbass17 03-05-2006 09:00 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]Jethro Tull must be on any list.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't say that. For prog, the only bands would be King Crimson and Floyd. [I]Maybe[/I] Yes.

Jacaranda 03-05-2006 09:02 PM

My essential prog would have to be Rush.

I'm sending out Wolfmother - Wolfmother right now because I'm in love with it already after listening to one song....

robo2448 03-05-2006 09:02 PM

Yeah you know what, essential artists is hard. Lunch is right, let's take a break from that and maybe compile an essential albums list. I'd strongly suggest a 1 album per band rule so the list doesn't get too long.

I hate Rush. Yes is my favorite prog band. King Crimson are the most influential.

Lunch 03-05-2006 09:02 PM

King Crimson, Yes, ELP are the essential prog for me.

rockinbass17 03-05-2006 09:02 PM

As much as I love them, I'm not sure if Rush would be considered essential to the genre as a whole.

EDIT- Forget that. I'm stupid- 2112.

Glitterati 03-05-2006 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Slug]I don't think CCR really need to be on there, either.[/QUOTE]

Neither do I.

In my opinion you could [SIZE="2"]even replace them [/SIZE][SIZE="1"]with David Bowie.[/SIZE]

Badmoon 03-05-2006 09:03 PM

[QUOTE]ACDC are considered to be the greatest band ever (by magizines, and 12 year olds alike)[/QUOTE]

So, this a quite informed Classic Rock thread. With regulars who know quite a bit about Classic Rock, let alone music in general.

[QUOTE]an innovative band yet they aren't on that list (understandably.)[/QUOTE]

How are ACDC innovative. They hadn't really introduced anything new.

[QUOTE]I mean hate them or love them they are more essential then ABB (Ya I said that. Might be the stupidest statement I've said for along time.) countless kids I know have started playing instruments or started listening to CR because of ACDC.[/QUOTE]

Most of us dislike them or show no interest towards them. To a 12 year old, or just one who perhaps hasn't gone in depth with the genre, ACDC maybe essential. But to us, they are not the essence of Classic Rock. Unless we have just decided to make a plain, generic essential Classic Rock list, I say we add a little opinion to our lists, and possibly put who we actually believe deserve to be on the list, through music, not popularity.

Now perhaps you do believe ACDC do actually belong on the list, that's your opinion, as Allman brothers is ours, and a much more wise opinion if you ask me.


/expects that the thread hasn't regained ACDC interest

Lunch 03-05-2006 09:04 PM

Essential albums:
The Beatles - Revolver
The Who - Live at Leeds (best rock 'n roll ever)
The Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - I
The Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East

Add or change at your will.

Edit: Liking a band does not qualify them as essential. I like Spirit, does that make them an essential classic rock band? No, it doesn't. Lets focus on albums first.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:06 PM

I like AC/DC. I'd call them essential.

I think CCR should be too.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:08 PM

You're wrong on both counts. I'm sorry to be harsh but you are. An argument could be made for CCR, though not a very strong one, but AC/DC has nothing going for them.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Essential albums:
The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
The Who - Live at Leeds (best rock 'n roll ever)
The Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Meddle
Led Zeppelin - I
The Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East
The Doors - The Doors
Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young - Deja Vu
Cream-Disraeli Gears
Jimi Hendrix-Are You Experienced?
[/QUOTE]

Fixed.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:09 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]You're wrong on both counts. I'm sorry to be harsh but you are. An argument could be made for CCR, though not a very strong one, but AC/DC has nothing going for them.[/QUOTE]
Well that's your opinion and I guess we'll have to agree to disagree :p

Jacaranda 03-05-2006 09:11 PM

Well I thought this was going to be a first post, I don't think anyone here needs to get into the genre so wouldn't it be more to steer people into the right direction of Classic Rock? I definatly don't like ACDC what so ever. But anyway an opinion filled "Essential" list will just be favorite artists.
[QUOTE]The Grateful Dead - American Beauty
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - I
The Allman Brothers - Live at the Fillmore East[/QUOTE]
Agree'd
The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street
Rush - 2112
The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers etc...
Velvet Underground - S/T
The Clash - London Calling
The Stooges - Raw Power
The Doors - S/T
The Kinks - Village Green
Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experianced?
Yes - Close to the Edge
King Crimson - ItCoTCK

I think some people are confusing favorite album to essential. No way in hell anyone is going to tell me Meddle is more essential the DSotM. Almost every Post-65 Beatles album can be called essential.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:11 PM

Well, try to make your argument. I'm honestly interested to hear/read it.

Edit: That was to Led-Zeppelin guy.

robo2448 03-05-2006 09:14 PM

Essential albums:
The Beatles - Abbey Road
The Who - Live At Leeds (Deluxe Edition)
The Grateful Dead - Workingman's Dead
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - II
The Allman Brothers - Live At Filmore East
Bruce Springsteen- Born to Run
Cream- Disraeli Gears
CSNY- Deja Vu
Derek and the Dominos- Layla and Other Assorted Love Song
George Harrison- All Things Must Pass
Jefferson Airplane- Surrealistic Pillow
Jimi Hendrix- Are You Experienced?
John Lennon- Plastic Ono Band
John Mayall- Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck- Blow by Blow
Love- Forever Changes
The Band- Music From Big Pink
The Doors- The Doors
The Kinks- The Village Green Preservation Society
The Rolling Stones- Exile on Main Street
The Velvet Underground- The Velvet Underground & Nico

I'm not good at narrowing things down.

Lunch 03-05-2006 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=Jacaranda]I think some people are confusing favorite album to essential. No way in hell anyone is going to tell me Meddle is more essential the DSotM. Almost every Post-65 Beatles album can be called essential.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Only one or two of the albums I named are my favorite album from that artist.

Edit: Does anyone here have Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts?

Jacaranda 03-05-2006 09:17 PM

[QUOTE]David Bowie- Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars[/QUOTE]
Meh, I have a hard time not being a hypocrite now. I definatly think [I]Hunky Dory[/I] is just as much or more of an essential.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:40 PM

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]Well, try to make your argument. I'm honestly interested to hear/read it.

Edit: That was to Led-Zeppelin guy.[/QUOTE]
Are you refering to ACDC, CCR, or Meddle?

God, I'm the king of unpopular opinions.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 09:44 PM

IMO, ACDC shouldn't be on it. Okay band, but really nothing that cool.


However, Dire Straits- Brothers In Arms should DEFINATELY be on there. And how about some T-Rex? awesome band IMO.

Glitterati 03-05-2006 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]And how about some T-Rex? awesome band IMO.[/QUOTE]

Yes :D one of my favorite bands right now. Electric Warrior is a great album.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]Are you refering to ACDC, CCR, or Meddle?

God, I'm the king of unpopular opinions.[/QUOTE]
Ac/Dc

I just don't think they're legendary. Or deserve their popularity.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:49 PM

It's not about how good they are. It's about essential/influential they are. AC/DC has inspired and introduced so much classic rock it doesn't even matter how generic they are.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=EightMilesHigh]Yes :D one of my favorite bands right now. Electric Warrior is a great album.[/QUOTE]


I'm more of a S/T man myself.....who could say no to these two handsome devils....

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Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Essential albums:
The Beatles - Abbey Road
The Who - Live At Leeds (Deluxe Edition)
The Grateful Dead - Workingman's Dead
Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Led Zeppelin - II
The Allman Brothers - Live At Filmore East
Bruce Springsteen- Born to Run
Cream- Disraeli Gears
CSNY- Deja Vu
Derek and the Dominos- Layla and Other Assorted Love Song
George Harrison- All Things Must Pass
Jefferson Airplane- Surrealistic Pillow
Jimi Hendrix- Are You Experienced?
John Lennon- Plastic Ono Band
John Mayall- Bluesbreakers With Eric Clapton
Jeff Beck- Blow by Blow
Love- Forever Changes
The Band- Music From Big Pink
The Doors- The Doors
The Kinks- The Village Green Preservation Society
The Rolling Stones- Exile on Main Street
The Velvet Underground- The Velvet Underground & Nico

I'm not good at narrowing things down.[/QUOTE]
Jethro Tull-Aqualung

Rams 03-05-2006 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]IMO, ACDC shouldn't be on it. Okay band, but really nothing that cool.


However, Dire Straits- Brothers In Arms should DEFINATELY be on there. And how about some T-Rex? awesome band IMO.[/QUOTE]

That's like saying Aerosmith should be off while Wings should be on.

Scuba_Steve 03-05-2006 09:54 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]It's not about how good they are. It's about essential/influential they are. AC/DC has inspired and introduced so much classic rock it doesn't even matter how generic they are.[/QUOTE]


Ac/Dc released their first international album in 1976.

Not only is this MUCH later than most of the other "big" classic rock band's high points, it also is late enough that there wasn't much classic rock left to influence.

If anything, they may have play a small part in influencing metal bands. But other than that they seemed to get more interest from party crazed frat boys.

Don't get me wrong, they have a few good tunes (well one good tune they changed the lyrics to a couple of times) but they are no where near as godly as people make them out to be.

robo2448 03-05-2006 09:58 PM

[QUOTE=DDM]Ac/Dc released their first international album in 1976.

Not only is this MUCH later than most of the other "big" classic rock band's high points, it also is late enough that there wasn't much classic rock left to influence.

If anything, they may have play a small part in influencing metal bands. But other than that they seemed to get more interest from party crazed frat boys.

Don't get me wrong, they have a few good tunes (well one good tune they changed the lyrics to a couple of times) but they are no where near as godly as people make them out to be.[/QUOTE]

Yeah you pretty much summed it all up. All the bands they've influenced suck. Just completely unoriginal, repetitive hard rock.

On T. Rex and Dire Straits- T. Rex is pretty good though I haven't listened to Electric Warrior enough. Dire Straits is awesome. I used to have a greatest hits but deleted it from my computer by accident. But neither is essential imo.

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=Led-ZeppelinIV]It's not about how good they are. It's about [B]essential/influential[/B] they are. AC/DC has inspired and introduced so much classic rock it doesn't even matter how generic they are.[/QUOTE]
I don't think those two words are interchangeable. Essential, in my mind, means necessary. Something has to be GOOD to be necessary. Influential, that's a whole other story. If we were talking influence, we'd have to start drawing lines from whether Led Zeppelin were REALLY influential or whether the Jeff Beck Group is because, while they're not as well known, they heavily influenced Led Zeppelin. Stuff like that.

Led-ZeppelinIV 03-05-2006 10:00 PM

I'm not talking about influencing bands, i'm talking about influencing people to get into classic rock. Who here didn't listen to AC/DC when they were 13?

PinkFreud 03-05-2006 10:02 PM

Me. But then again, I listened to rap. Personally, the Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, and Bob Dylan got me into classic rock. I never had an Ac/Dc phase.

Edit: Then again, I'm better than most people. :p


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