0 is 1 - 1. It has no value on its own.

Did I talk to you on the phone Joel? I feel fine. Tempted to go get more beer.

It completely depends on how you use 0.

In computer science, we use it as a literal value, it has a definite value (False).

A lot of modern mathematics (and physics) is built on this idea of infinitesimally small numbers that approach 0 (or very large numbers approaching infinity), but though they use it in their equations, because of it's relatively small value, they can simply remove it from the equation (mm, Calculus).

So it has a value, but is also a concept which explains the lack of things.

yeah you rang me when you were walking home from the train station, you said you thought to yourself about what you could do to make it go faster and you thought you'd ring me.

you sounded pretty sober, than i came on here and looked at all the previous posts to see what i've missed and you could barely type in one of them

To the voluntary poisoning of our bodies :chug:.

I'm hopeless at typing when I'm drunk, but have learned to sound sober. haha. I tried to call Haz and he wouldn't answer.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48[/url]

yeah zero is definitely a number aaron, its only an operation if you think of it in the way that 1 and 0 represent yes and no in binary, if you get me.

plus, straight from wikipedia:



0 is the integer preceding 1. In most systems, 0 was identified before the idea of 'negative integers' was accepted. Zero is an even number.[2] 0 is neither positive nor negative.
Zero is a number which quantifies a count or an amount of null size; that is, if the number of your brothers is zero, that means the same thing as having no brothers, and if something has a weight of zero, it has no weight. If the difference between the number of pieces in two piles is zero, it means the two piles have an equal number of pieces. Before counting starts, the result can be assumed to be zero; that is the number of items counted before you count the first item and counting the first item brings the result to one. And if there are no items to be counted, zero remains the final result.
Almost all historians omit the year zero from the proleptic Gregorian and Julian calendars, but astronomers include it in these same calendars. However, the phrase Year Zero may be used to describe any event considered so significant that it serves as a new base point in time.

I still don't agree.

lol...it has to be a number though

youre argument before about zero having no value on its own was wrong too. you could just as easily say that 2 = 3 - 1, therefore 2 has no value on its own.

plus the whole system of algebra would be ****ed without zero being a number...try solving sin^2x = 1 without the use of zero

lifesaver icy poles are the most awesome icy poles ever.

hit 46 degrees, hottest melbourne day on record :O

yuuuuck

its not that hot up here i dont think
but in my room its pretty warm

roll on winter i say

[QUOTE=Aaron;17084958]I'm hopeless at typing when I'm drunk, but have learned to sound sober. haha. I tried to call Haz and he wouldn't answer.[/QUOTE]

must have slept through it lol

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3SzmfZ6F24[/url]

haha wtf

looks like its from the creators of power rangers lol.

so yeah bushfires like 30 km from where I live :(

are you guys like on alert yet?

i'm reading mount analogue, are you familiar with any rene daumal alan?

nein fraulein.

apparently I weight 202lb in amurkan talk.

[QUOTE=Meatplow;17085286]i'm reading mount analogue, are you familiar with any rene daumal alan?[/QUOTE]

no I am not. Is it good?

Now there's spot fires only a few kilometres away :(

there was a bushfire like 200m away from my mates place today, but unless fire can cross cement we were in no danger

[QUOTE=RunAmokRampant;17085315]no I am not. Is it good?[/QUOTE]

i'm enjoying it a lot

it would later be adapted into Jodorowsky's "The Holy Mountain"

When it gets hot enough apparently it can jump roads. :/
Hope you're okay RARRARARARRARRRRR

yeah we're not on alert or anything so it mustnt be much of a threat atm.

and haz i just read up on that novel. Sounds incredibly fascinating.

Get this into you: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel%27s_Horn[/url]

yeah well

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon[/url]

Have u read any Thomas Pynchon Chu?

Nope. At least, the name doesn't ring any bells.

Edit: Hey, my friend was reading Gravity's Rainbow.

get this into you chu

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle[/url]

(0,y) ~ (1, y) for 0 ≤ y ≤ 1 and (x, 0) ~ (1 − x, 1) for 0 ≤ x ≤ 1

Word to that.

yeah he's a very recluse figure.

[QUOTE]i'm enjoying it a lot

it would later be adapted into Jodorowsky's "The Holy Mountain"[/QUOTE]

cool. ive only seen el topo by jodorowsky.

im currently looking for a copy of Silence by Shusaku Endo. its going to be adapted by scorsese i believe. want to read it before the movie comes out.

Thomas Pynchon is a mad dude. I liked Gravity's Rainbow.

Have you guys read Flatland?

The Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stoll is pretty epic.