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Darkness 04-17-2005 09:23 PM

^ yeah he wasn't bad at all... its just Justin does alot more things rather then playing heavy pounding riffs.

Kage 04-17-2005 09:45 PM

Paul was good, but Justin's lines and sound are ten times better, more varied, and have a bigger contribution to the band in my opinion.

The JoZ 04-17-2005 09:47 PM

Paul was good at laying down thick bass, yes, but he was almost like a one-trick pony...he played heavy lines that were not always in line with what Adam was doing, but usually were.

Justin is far more experimental, and often does something totally different from Adam.

heavy metal kid 04-17-2005 09:49 PM

i never seen a live perfomerance of tool, how does justin plays the stuff that paul used to play?

Dried Muffin Remnants 04-17-2005 10:34 PM

paul had a good sound and was extremely heavy... but i'd agree with you on experimentation, justin does a lot more with that

Rounder 04-17-2005 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=heavy metal kid]i never seen a live perfomerance of tool, how does justin plays the stuff that paul used to play?[/QUOTE]

Ive seen them about 5 times, and as far as I know Justin has always treated the work Paul did with respect, and plays the basslines basically the same way as the album. Im sure there are a few things different, but none that I saw offhand.

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-17-2005 10:56 PM

I still can't get over how buttery smooth Justin's tone is.

Question- On Jimmy, there's a section in the middle where it's either Justin using distortion, or Jone's using an octave pedal. Just listen to it, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Is it Jone's or Chancellor?

The JoZ 04-17-2005 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I still can't get over how buttery smooth Justin's tone is.

Question- On Jimmy, there's a section in the middle where it's either Justin using distortion, or Jone's using an octave pedal. Just listen to it, and you'll know what I'm talking about. Is it Jone's or Chancellor?[/QUOTE]

What time in the song?

The JoZ 04-17-2005 11:01 PM

If you mean about 2:41 or so into jimmy...

I am pretty sure the faster running line is Justin, with distortion.

Adam is just playing a few D chords.

Dr. Jake Destructo 04-17-2005 11:04 PM

Yeah. It's at 2:41 during Jimmy, right before he goes into that clean chorus part. Thanks for the help. It seems like whenever I have questions about Justin, you know what's going on. :thumb:

invisirep++

The JoZ 04-17-2005 11:06 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]Yeah. It's at 2:41 during Jimmy, right before he goes into that clean chorus part. Thanks for the help. It seems like whenever I have questions about Justin, you know what's going on. :thumb:

invisirep++[/QUOTE]

I consider myself somewhat of a Tool bass guru :cool:

iceman3019 04-17-2005 11:48 PM

i don't know if i can agree on all the "bashing" going on over paul d'amour. i personally think that he's as good as justin chancellor. why? his lines on "intolerance" and "sober" are (in my opinion) pretty "experimental" or what not. and his job in "flood" is comaparble to justin in "forty six & 2." but all this crap is just my opinion, and flame me if you want . . .

Rounder 04-18-2005 12:16 AM

[QUOTE=iceman3019]i don't know if i can agree on all the "bashing" going on over paul d'amour. i personally think that he's as good as justin chancellor. why? his lines on "intolerance" and "sober" are (in my opinion) pretty "experimental" or what not. and his job in "flood" is comaparble to justin in "forty six & 2." but all this crap is just my opinion, and flame me if you want . . .[/QUOTE]

I agree...But I think justin helped bring the band to a new level. IMO, the foundation of Tool songs are the bass guitar and drums, and Danney said he had to basically develop a new style when Justin came along. I like Paul's playing for sure, but I don't regret that he left when he did. Enima would have never sounded the same without justin, although there are still some paul influences there.

Merkaba 04-18-2005 12:49 AM

[QUOTE=Dr. Jake Destructo]I still can't get over how buttery smooth Justin's tone is.
[/QUOTE]
:lol: :thumb:

Aenima is a classic album... I listen to it everyday. And stinkfist is almost perfect for working the abs out at the gym. Heehee

misunderstood 04-18-2005 01:22 AM

Ok, I'm gonna get off topic for a bit. I was looking at the cd booklet in the album Opiate and noticed the four pictures at every corner of the paper. I was just wondering if any of you knew who is who (assuming it is the band members, of course). There are interesting things in there...Heh.

the2stranger 04-18-2005 03:36 AM

a lot of tool albums have the weird art stuff
It took me sometime to notice it say's 'God' on the lateralus booklet

hundurinn 04-18-2005 04:09 AM

Deleted, sorry for that.

the2stranger 04-18-2005 04:27 AM

spam in official threads, is not a good Idea, n00b

hundurinn 04-18-2005 04:30 AM

I do realise that. I'm in school atm and I was away while my class mates ruined everything.

the2stranger 04-18-2005 04:34 AM

oh , alright

I forgive you :p

welcome to MX!

hundurinn 04-18-2005 04:43 AM

Thanks. I must add that Tool is my favorite band. I can't wait for their new cd :D

Moses 04-18-2005 07:22 AM

[QUOTE=r0und3r]I agree...But I think justin helped bring the band to a new level. IMO, the foundation of Tool songs are the bass guitar and drums, and Danney said he had to basically develop a new style when Justin came along. I like Paul's playing for sure, but I don't regret that he left when he did. Enima would have never sounded the same without justin, although there are still some paul influences there.[/QUOTE]
The reason that Aenima has a few Paul influences is because he wrote some stuff on that album before he left.

I think Paul really would have helped them live in the early days. The pounding bass would have gotten people started, and after the show it would have left a lasting impression on the crowd.

The JoZ 04-18-2005 07:36 AM

You know, I'd just like to point out, nowhere in anything I've said have I been bashing Paul at all.

Paul was a good bassist, and he created some good, slightly unusual basslines at times...including one of the most recognizable riffs ever in "Sober".

But I really think Justin has brought alot more to the table in terms of his abilities and basslines. This doesn't mean Paul didn't make any contributions while he was there, but...I mean, you can compare them side-by-side, and I think one will see Justin is the better bassist...or, if nothing else, at least more experimental.

fatbandit 04-18-2005 07:40 AM

Okay, I don't know how much this has been asked (and answered), so please don't greet me with a 'go away, n00b, its been done before', but whatever happened with the whole Maynard finding God thing? I was suspicious to say the least, especially knowing Tool's penchant for being strange and messing with the fans, though with its close proximity to April Fool's day, and with something similar happening with Head in Korn, I wasn't certain. So I ask. What came of it? Was it true? I never really followed it up. Or is it another one of those 'Bob Rock left Metallica' stories?

Cheers!

jamesclelland 04-18-2005 08:57 AM

i cant believe people actually believed maynard found god. that was the most rediculus thing i have ever heard. have you guys ever read the lyrics to these songs? they clearly show him as a pagan(almost).

if anyone is interested, i can put a couple of songs from the tool cover show up, just from my set though. let me know which you want but be patient, i havent got the video back yet. we did: intolerance, fortysix and two, swamp song, cold and ugly, stinkfist, and sober. sorry to bring it up again, but it was the most fun i've ever had (playing that show)

fatbandit 04-18-2005 09:05 AM

Psh, I take it he didn't become a Christian then? :lol:

That's all good then.

The JoZ 04-18-2005 09:34 AM

Alright, here's a question to those who wanted Tool bass tracks from me.

Do you want drums with it too, or just bass? I can upload MIDI drum tracks with my bass playing if you'd like.

Rothmans 04-18-2005 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]Alright, here's a question to those who wanted Tool bass tracks from me.

Do you want drums with it too, or just bass? I can upload MIDI drum tracks with my bass playing if you'd like.[/QUOTE]
Drums if possible and it wont take too much trouble

(sorry if I dont have a say)

The JoZ 04-18-2005 10:13 AM

No, it would take literally zero effort to do drums.

I'll do a couple of tracks here in a minute...

Rothmans 04-18-2005 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]No, it would take literally zero effort to do drums.

I'll do a couple of tracks here in a minute...[/QUOTE]

Deadly thank's so much.


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