I'm not sure if you saw that I posted a link in my last post Merk, so this post is just to remind you. Thanks :thumb:

Its not falsetto. At least not anything I heard. Its more head than anything else, just rasped rather gutterally "below the pencil" as melissa cross would say or if you were going to upchuck a steak. So you can pretend to barf, maybe, as a way to feel. It should feel pretty gaggy. Its a highly blocked sound with alot of larynx in the way.

I found my "falsetto" voice.. now how do I "develop" it?

Right now it just sounds really girly.. and it likes to crack.. and it's almost like a whisper.. it sounds like when you lose your voice or something. I don't see how I could possibly use this in singing.. it sounds TOO girly.. and I wanna able to do it like how the singer in Fall Out Boy does it.. you can tell he is in falsetto.. and it is high, but he stil keeps is kind of with his same reg voice tone.. how can I do this?

Does this just come with practice? And if I "loosen" my chords enough can I do this? How do I loosen them? By doing A, E, I, O, U in falsetto?

Or are some people just naturally unable to do falsetto?

Thanks. [I'm 16 btw.. if that changes anything.. and I've had no prior vocal classes whatsoever.]

I'm doing this basically so I can 1.) Sing higher. 2.) Strengthen my falsetto so I can scream better.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=wkd]I found my "falsetto" voice.. now how do I "develop" it?

Right now it just sounds really girly.. and it likes to crack.. and it's almost like a whisper.. it sounds like when you lose your voice or something. I don't see how I could possibly use this in singing.. it sounds TOO girly.. and I wanna able to do it like how the singer in Fall Out Boy does it.. you can tell he is in falsetto.. and it is high, but he stil keeps is kind of with his same reg voice tone.. how can I do this?

Does this just come with practice? And if I "loosen" my chords enough can I do this? How do I loosen them? By doing A, E, I, O, U in falsetto?

Or are some people just naturally unable to do falsetto?

Thanks. [I'm 16 btw.. if that changes anything.. and I've had no prior vocal classes whatsoever.]

I'm doing this basically so I can 1.) Sing higher. 2.) Strengthen my falsetto so I can scream better.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
If youre sixteen...who knows what has or will happen. But in general it doesnt matter. It will happen slow enough so that if you can properly sing then it should be easily remedied. But most people dont know that I guess, or really arent "naturals". In other words, age technically doesnt matter except that it will affect your range, and where youre head and falsetto breaks are due to the layrnx enlarging and whatnot.

For falsetto, you should try to sing head and falsetto at the same time, this will move it more to the "mask" or front of your vocal are. Keep your tongue loose, and try to keep the sound feeling like its going more out of your face and not your head. Do this just to get a feel. Many times people say to try to feel the sound going up through your temples. It will when done properly but if you cant really control it yet, you should try to keep it as close to head voice. Just go up another note higher. You will have to feel a shift in your throat as the cords are opened for falsetto. You do need good breath support, but remember you dont need much push at all....dont blow out the candle in front of you.

And you will get more out of strengthening your head voice than trying to strengthen falsetto alone. Check out the first page of this thread, the exercises for strength and flexibility.

My singer in my band has a good voice, and he can hit and hold notes really well, the only problem is he is really quiet when he sings. Like, his singing voice is quieter then his talking voice. Is there anything he can do to get louder without changing his voice?

Thanks

Push more air? just a little bit. It's just like raising your voice when talking, I'm sure he can do that without changing his tone. Let him try this: Keep his facial expressions, jaw, and chin relaxed while he goes higher (in volume), this should help prevent any change of tone.

Hey Merkaba,

Yes I'm going to be the 1 million and 1st person to thank you ever so much for your time and effort into helping people like myself with singing. I've been reading over all of your posts for a few months now and have learnt a great deal. So THANK YOU for that! However a couple of things are still troubling me. Before I start though, if it helps, I'm male, 20 years old and am sharing lead singing duties in my rock band.

At the moment I'm having trouble with my head voice. I believe that in general I can pitch my notes well, even falsetto, but am struggling with my head voice. I'm finding it difficult to distinguish from chest voice (ie. i think sometimes im pulling up my chest voice when i should be releasing into head, giving it a strained sound and me an uncomfortable feeling), and sometimes get the type of voice going that sounds partly head and partly falsetto. Unless I push from the throat I can't really get passed G4 (G above middle C) without going into falsetto, and even then it sounds bad. Even though I may be in tune, I know my technique and consequently tonal qualities are lacking. When I sing in the region of about D above middle C (D4) to the G above that (G4) for extended periods of time my throat becomes tight and sore. I know that this is due to me not using my diaphragm or "gut" properly but I'm finding it hard realising how to do this. My voice never becomes sore when I sing lower notes, only the highish ones.

On our myspace webpage, [URL="http://www.myspace.com/opshopninja"]http://www.myspace.com/opshopninja[/URL] , we have a song called 'colourblind' of which I am singing lead. Or you can go to the following link, [URL="http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BVG0LMD5CUJU0QIL64Y55GMS3"]http://s31.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BVG0LMD5CUJU0QIL64Y55GMS3[/URL] , which has the same vocal track as on the myspace page but soloed so you can hear it more clearly. Most of this song is sung in the region of D4 to F4. I'm pretty sure that 99% of the song is sung in the correct pitch, but it sounds a little 'airy fairy' despite the fact i'm not singing in falsetto, if you know what I mean? I'm using either head or chest, most likely head, but it sounds too soft and not very powerful/guttural to be head/chest done correctly - at least to me anyway. if you could have a listen to this song and tell me:
1. what regisiter you think I am using,
2. whether you think that regisiter is being used correctly,
3. if you think i'm using the 'gut' appropriately (and if not how i should go about singing from the gut - ive read posts regarding this issue but am still struggling with it) and
4. whether, overall, you think it sounds reasonably good or not

I would be very appreciative. I know i'm asking a lot but I've been doing a lot of research on the net and despite how much info i've obtained just need someone to tell me if what i'm doing is right or not. At the moment I can't really afford singing lessons so am trying to improvise. Your response would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance, :thumb:

adz

This may or may not have been asked before but, as an absolute beginner singer, what shall I sing? I can obviously practice exercises and scales and stuff until time ends, but I don't really know what songs or somethign to sing.

[QUOTE=Dand]My singer in my band has a good voice, and he can hit and hold notes really well, the only problem is he is really quiet when he sings. Like, his singing voice is quieter then his talking voice. Is there anything he can do to get louder without changing his voice?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Surgical is right...
[QUOTE=Surgicalgod]Push more air? just a little bit. It's just like raising your voice when talking, I'm sure he can do that without changing his tone. Let him try this: Keep his facial expressions, jaw, and chin relaxed while he goes higher (in volume), this should help prevent any change of tone.[/QUOTE]
But the thing is, I bet a million bucks he's not using his breath support/diaphragm well. The motor boat drills/lip trills....first page of this thread under "singing from the gut". If you have no diaphram support you wont be able to do them and if so then he will need to practice them to get in touch with trapping and venting pressure. Tell him to take a good breath, not the the deepest in the world because it gets harder on the diapghram, save that for future workouts. You should be able to sing loud without blowing out the candle in front of you...so to speak.

[QUOTE=Dand]My singer in my band has a good voice, and he can hit and hold notes really well, the only problem is he is really quiet when he sings. Like, his singing voice is quieter then his talking voice. Is there anything he can do to get louder without changing his voice?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
If it's quieter than his singing voice, I'd say he's not singing right. He needs to get that diaphragm going and push with it, not from his throat, or whispering, or whatever he's doing. Either it, it comes out quiet.

Maybe advise him to take some singing lessons. Then he'll learn how to project his voice. That was the first thing I did--I had no idea how to "project" my voice, so I took some lessons. If your singer doesn't like that idea... maybe try to encourage him saying that his singing tone sounds good, but if he learned to project it louder then it'll sound better. Something like that.

Hey, uhh... quick question.

When I do vibrato.. my larynx kind of goes up and down a bit, or wiggles. Am I do it right, or should I stop and re-learn my technique the right way?

I think you're doing it the wrong way cause it doesn't happen with me. A stable larynx is a happy larynx.

[QUOTE=Peg Dizzler]Hey, uhh... quick question.

When I do vibrato.. my larynx kind of goes up and down a bit, or wiggles. Am I do it right, or should I stop and re-learn my technique the right way?[/QUOTE]
Theres about three different vibratos. Technically Surgical is right, but if youre getting a consistent smooth vibrato it usually means youre relaxed enough...I wouldnt worry about it.

Teach me the other ways to do vibrato plz? :D If you don't mind of course. Or just show me a site or recommend a book.

I heard Brett Manning has a pretty good vibrato course CD called Mastering Vibrato. You can find it on [url]www.getsigned.com[/url] or just do a google search.

Well I'm kind of new here, I've been reading the forum for a while, and today registered, but that irelevant.

When I sing i get a build up of mucus that will not disapear, not matter how hard i swallow or try to spit it out. I thing this is really affecting my singing quite badly now as it effects the overall quality and volume of my voice. Do you know how I can get rid of this mucus?

First page of the thread under mucus. Basically, quit dairy, caffeine, smoking and meat or at least cut down.

Merkaba, I see you speak alot about diet and recommended fluids and such, so I was wonder.. I drink a lot of green tea, because it's so incredibly beneficial for almost everything else, but will it damage my voice in any way?

I dont believe anyone would tell you that it will damage your voice. The thing is to be mindful of your caffeine intake. Keep moderation in key. A glass or two a day wont hurt, but caffeine is caffeine. And it "do what it do". You can always opt for caffeine free. I've been eating a lot of cheese lately! Sue me, ya know? I just don't do it often. Then my girlfriend suggested, try this kind...so now I have two big blocks of some of the worst stuff on the planet...thats just heavenly to eat. So. Just be smart.

Yeah, I wouldn't cut back on it anyway, given the other health benefits of it, but I really don't think it's drying me out or anything like that and the caffeine in green tea works a little differently than for example coffee, but you're absolutely right, it's still caffeine. But it's not like I drink every hour or so, it's just a cup or two a day to lower blood pressure and blood sugar, fight cancer and daily intake of vitamins.


So, anyway, I just got a new mic. If I record a few songs, would it be cool if I post it here for voice suggestions even though it's not screaming, which it seems like you do the most in?

Hey Merkaba. I think I have a strained vocal chord. I was screaming and it hurt, because I was trying something new. I stopped it after about one minute and started playing guitar and didn't swallow that much during that time. Mainly because of concentration. I did not taste blood at all I don't think. After I was done my throat still hurt and it feels like a light pinch in my upper right adams apple area. My friend who is a screamer informed me that this has happened to him and that it is most likely a strained vocal chord. So right now I am drinking a lot of water and reducing my talking/singing/and definately screaming. It hurts when I swallow and a little bit when I talk. Mainly because when you talk your adams apple moves up and that is when it hurts me. I am almost positive it is a strained chord. Is there a way to make this heal faster? I took an Ibuprofen for the pain and I am drinking water. Anything else that could help?
Thanks
EDIT: Would drinking sleepy time tea help. No caffeine.

Hey Merkaba,

Not sure if you read the message I posted a few weeks back? It was message #727. If you could just check that out for me and get back to me whenever you can that would be great. If you want me to reupload the single vocal track just let me know and i can do it (the current one has expired now).

Thanks for your time. :)

I remember reading it but guess i didnt post a reply.

I like the song...not bad.
Sounds like to me it would have to be head voice or in that area. Some people use the term middle voice, as in between chest and head. Sounds like it's in your proper register. I think it would be way harder for you to sing otherwise and you'd know it easily. You've got nice tone and a rather lighter sound. I'm wondering if you could be a tenor or close when its all said and done.
So be sure to read the "finding head voice" and "singing from the gut" pages back on page one. Its hard to teach someone to access registers over the internet. But I would say dont be afraid of falsetto. It gets a bad rep sometimes because its not used properly in many cases. Especially around your break, youre gonna WANT falsetto because otherwise youre going to try to hold onto head with alot of tension. And your first one or two falsetto notes after your break are relatively indistinguishable when done with the rest of the music, and of course with proper support. Over time you can work on closing it up into true voice if you can. Have you been trying to sing one note scales up and down. Be sure to try them starting on a note that is falsetto for sure and work your way down. THis, when used with the vice versa of starting off in head and going up to falsetto, can kinda narrow down the tension. Be sure to start off on AH vowels. And relax as many muscles in your neck and face as you can.

Now singing from the gut is even a harder thing to get across. The thing I find very useful now is the motor boat/lip trill exercises. In the singing from the gut thread.

To reiterate...the cords are only tools used to make sounds. (And add internal support pressure, but thats another story). So try to sing sometimes without thinking about it much. Just sing the song. Trying to be too technical is like trying to throw a dart when pitching or football. You throw to the area, to the space. Not to the mit or to the hands. So don't overthrow it. Relax. You can sing pretty good it sounds and thinking should only come when trying something new. I can hear that one area where you want to go up and it kinda breaks. I'm more than positive you can get that note cleanly. it just seems to be right at your bridge area. if you need to sing it in a good supported falsetto, then do it for now. It will ease the tension that's causing you to break in the first place. If you can hit it in head, you've got to first let go of the tension or holding on feeling. Or practice that part or word with the AH vowel. That part before colourblind..."my heart...[I]myhi [/I]heart" (I dont know if its heart or not) where you try to go up.
You do seem to sing a tad airy in general. could be style or what have you. THats ok. But the thing that helped me the most was when a guitarist at a tryout said I was holding back and to sing harder. Over the next year I was a whole different breed. You could work on that maybe. But the key is to bring it from the gut. Dont think about your throat or cords when you sing harder. And of course dont sing much harder when you start off, if you decide to do such a thing. It can help build strength and stamina, and the muscles you need to close up notes will benefit. I would say practice the song an octave lower to get a feel for keeping the cords together. I still do this alot.

[QUOTE=Visti]Yeah, I wouldn't cut back on it anyway, given the other health benefits of it, but I really don't think it's drying me out or anything like that and the caffeine in green tea works a little differently than for example coffee, but you're absolutely right, it's still caffeine. But it's not like I drink every hour or so, it's just a cup or two a day to lower blood pressure and blood sugar, fight cancer and daily intake of vitamins.


So, anyway, I just got a new mic. If I record a few songs, would it be cool if I post it here for voice suggestions even though it's not screaming, which it seems like you do the most in?[/QUOTE]
Well tea in general has less caffeine than the same serving of coffee. About half usually...if I remember correctly. Depends on style and method of course. I have some decaf green tea. Think I might make a cup now!
Remember you can get the same affects and nutrients from spinach, broccoli, etc. Just had to throw that one out there.

Cheers for the reply Merkaba. I appreciate it.

What you said was quite helpful and also reinforced some things that other people have told me aswell. A couple of band members as well as my dad (who used to be a lead singer) have said I need to "let it go more", just like you have said. I've tried doing this before, trying to get more power and fulness into my voice but whenever I do this my throat gets tired and sore and then i end up losing tone, and pitch tends to get a bit off as well. Perhaps this was a result of trying to over do it. You do mention trying to sing harder but only a little bit at first. I suppose that's the key, and work up from there. I'll reread your 'singing from the gut' posts.. as i'm pretty sure i'm not doing that properly and we'll see how it goes.

Also, i'm 99% i'm not a tenor. I can't sing any higher than G# above middle C without releasing into falsetto (at least at this stage anyway - maybe once i get the gut technique going better i will improve my full voice range), whereas I've heard so much about the infamous 'Tenors C' where a tenor should be able to sing the C above middle C. I try to sing along to many Queen songs (Mercury having one of the best voices I've ever heard and a range to match) but once he goes into those higher regions still in full voice i just have to sing it in falsetto. Oh and for the record I do love falsetto. Muse are my favourite band who probably have never released a song without falsetto in it. Falsetto with heavy guitars backing it just sounds really cool, ala Rob Halford, Bruce Dickinson & at times daron and serj from system of a down.

does anyone know if this guy is singing in
reinforced falsetto or head voice? cuz he sings some
really high notes with some good power behind them.
[url]http://www.oxdrive.com/files/01/sf.mpeg[/url]

golfguy, you really should make your files a lot smaller than that! it's almost 50mb! Even those on cable may not be bothered downloading it. Merkaba is on dialup so don't expect him to listen to it. Also if you're gonna post something that's 4-5 mins then at least specify the areas (ie. what time of the song) you're referring to.

Haha...I got dsl a week ago. Me likey....but something is either suddenly up with my comp or with that link because its taking forever and a day to download or play.

Merkaba, just out of interest, what is your overall vocal range, and your individual range for chest, head and falsetto? Sorry if this has been asked, but i don't recall someone asking.

It would be pretty cool if you uploaded an audio clip of yourself demonstrating your vocal range - to show us how things should be sounding in the extremes.

Also, I thought of something that might be able to help you show people the difference between the registers, because a lot of people are asking 'is this in head or falsetto' or (as in my case) find it hard to distinguish between chest and head. So here's the idea...

What I think would be a good idea would be for you to post an audio clip of yourself singing the same note in all three registers, and then state which of these registers would GENERALLY be the correct one to sing that note in. So, for example, you could do something like "this is what D4 sounds like when sung in chest voice.... now this is what D4 sounds like when sung in head... and now falsetto etc." That way I think it would illustrate how the different registers sound when doing the same thing. If it's too hard to find a note that is possible to be sung in all three registers, then maybe choose one note to show the difference between chest/head and then a higher one to show the difference between head/falsetto. What do you think?

Merkaba, would it be too much trouble if you could post a clip of you singing with some music maybe? My voice is completely different and relaxed when singing to music, but when I do excercises and such, it's strained and my range feels a lot smaller. I'm guessing that really shouldn't be the case.

I hope it isn't too much to ask, but I need a few suggestions.


Okay, I just recently started screaming. Now, I'm almost 100% sure that I'm not doing it the wrong way, because I warm up, I don't close my throat, and I make the rasp by air rolling up the back of the throat, before the chords.


Anyway, for some reason, I still experience some pain and discomfort during and after screaming, followed by increased mucous production after stopping all vocal activity. It doesn't last any longer than 12 hours, but it's a bitch.


Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks.

Okay, I've figured out what I was doing wrong, so I've got it under control. I was clearing my throat the "wrong way" which is just the same as screaming the wrong way, and it was griding everything together, and scratching everything up. Then basically any kind of vibration just makes it worse.

I'm new to the forum and i've read a lot of your scream posts, but i'm still having the hardest time screaming.
See i'm aiming for an underoath high pitch scream.
I've been doing some of your techniques like isolation and stuff but i still can't get it.
Is there some other way to do this?

[QUOTE=adz_18]Merkaba, just out of interest, what is your overall vocal range, and your individual range for chest, head and falsetto? Sorry if this has been asked, but i don't recall someone asking.

It would be pretty cool if you uploaded an audio clip of yourself demonstrating your vocal range - to show us how things should be sounding in the extremes.

Also, I thought of something that might be able to help you show people the difference between the registers, because a lot of people are asking 'is this in head or falsetto' or (as in my case) find it hard to distinguish between chest and head. So here's the idea...

What I think would be a good idea would be for you to post an audio clip of yourself singing the same note in all three registers, and then state which of these registers would GENERALLY be the correct one to sing that note in. So, for example, you could do something like "this is what D4 sounds like when sung in chest voice.... now this is what D4 sounds like when sung in head... and now falsetto etc." That way I think it would illustrate how the different registers sound when doing the same thing. If it's too hard to find a note that is possible to be sung in all three registers, then maybe choose one note to show the difference between chest/head and then a higher one to show the difference between head/falsetto. What do you think?[/QUOTE]Yea, we actually had a "whats your range?" thread a few months ago. no big deal.

My usable range is from about the second E below middle c (if I were to do something slow and/or crooney) and up to C6, the second above middle C. To do anything up here would be slow also, or only as a trill or grace notes. Slow operatics maybe like Jeff buckley's Corpus Christi Carol. I start falsetto right around high A. Typical baritone. I wouldnt feel comfortable singing much falsetto past that G5 or A5. With a good warm up and practice I can get whistle notes all the way through to the next C, C7. By the way, if you've never heard of Adam Lopez check him out. World record holder. The poppy stuff is not my thing but the classical is cool. And the way he can make his voice sound like a violin is , well Incredible. go here. And scroll down. Be sure to listen to Georgia Brown as well. That stuff really makes me want to work on my whistle notes whenever I hear it. Dammit. [url]http://www.dutchdivas.net/frames/highC.html[/url]Warning! Incredible voices on this page! Things like male soprano's in head voice! Warning.

I use to record a bit but I now have up and downstairs neighbors in my apartment. I hate that. Plus I work 12 hours third shift. But maybe I'll try to get something like this done.

[QUOTE=Visti]Merkaba, would it be too much trouble if you could post a clip of you singing with some music maybe? My voice is completely different and relaxed when singing to music, but when I do excercises and such, it's strained and my range feels a lot smaller. I'm guessing that really shouldn't be the case.[/QUOTE]
Shouldnt be the case at all. Youre probably thinking too much and tensing up, trying to be too perfect. Relax, miss and crap out notes. Its ok.

[QUOTE=Semple]I hope it isn't too much to ask, but I need a few suggestions.


Okay, I just recently started screaming. Now, I'm almost 100% sure that I'm not doing it the wrong way, because I warm up, I don't close my throat, and I make the rasp by air rolling up the back of the throat, before the chords.


Anyway, for some reason, I still experience some pain and discomfort during and after screaming, followed by increased mucous production after stopping all vocal activity. It doesn't last any longer than 12 hours, but it's a bitch.


Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
:lol: Keyword. Almost. Youre just not gonna get another answer out of me. You should never have pain or any kind of discomfort from singing or screaming. Maybe someone else, usually that doesnt have a clue, will say its ok for a little or this or that. There is something youre doing wrong. Pain and mucus....there's not many other signs until you do something more damaging! Back off...learn to rasp at 50% volume. Be sure as hell that youre warming DOWN as well. As far as I'm concerned you should never stop "vocal activity". I'm doing something all day long. Even if its very light. Of course I like to sing normally as well. Which most people don't seem to be interested in nowadays. And there is no way you should be clearing your throat that much or that hard to cause pain and mucus!

[QUOTE=crash_this]I'm new to the forum and i've read a lot of your scream posts, but i'm still having the hardest time screaming.
See i'm aiming for an underoath high pitch scream.
I've been doing some of your techniques like isolation and stuff but i still can't get it.
Is there some other way to do this?[/QUOTE]
Well, first you have to realize that that type of scream may be impossible for you.

Now that we've got that out of the way, remember there are basses, baritones, tenors, countertenors...etc. I'm familiar with Young and aspriring or whatever it is. That scream would probably be termed "falsetto scream" but I bet its a totally choked off raspy head. At least thats the position I would have to go to get it. Have you listened to the samples? Isolation is more of a concept. ITs not gonna really help you get a scream.

I think I may just be screaming too loud.

[QUOTE] Well, first you have to realize that that type of scream may be impossible for you.

Now that we've got that out of the way, remember there are basses, baritones, tenors, countertenors...etc. I'm familiar with Young and aspriring or whatever it is. That scream would probably be termed "falsetto scream" but I bet its a totally choked off raspy head. At least thats the position I would have to go to get it. Have you listened to the samples? Isolation is more of a concept. ITs not gonna really help you get a scream.[/QUOTE]

Alrihgt man thanks.
So i may never get that type of scream.
So basically your saying I have to stay in my range that I can achieve through whatever i am "bass, baritone etc"..Thanks I'll keep working on it and try what i can :)

[QUOTE=crash_this]Alrihgt man thanks.
So i may never get that type of scream.
So basically your saying I have to stay in my range that I can achieve through whatever i am "bass, baritone etc"..Thanks I'll keep working on it and try what i can :)[/QUOTE]
May or may not. Some people cant even access their head voice. So as far as we know you might not be either. Or you could be singing so incorrectly that youre cramping alot of your range. The thing is to try to sing the note youre trying to scream first. You gotta be able to sing it before you can add anything to it. Alot of people try so hard to blast a scream that they can't even get the note/tone they are trying to achieve. Maybe post a sample of you singing/screaming or whatever. Or preferably of you doing some rising scales from around middle C.

Recently I've been experimenting with my voice, trying to open it up and attain use of it. I am no vocalist, and I have had no teaching of any kind, but I would very much like to have a voice to use when I need it.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/lowexpectations[/url]
The top song, (White Maple Monsters) is something I put together yesterday on a whim, its rather rough, but criticism and tips (perhaps bashing, if you feel so inclined, but I already know I have a long way to go) on my vocals would be very much appreciated. The instrumentals are also me (except for the drum machine.)

It's good to get help early on, so as to not develop bad habits and such. Also, is this something I should keep persuing? I don't want to spend too much time if I don't have some sort of potential for something good.

[QUOTE=LowExpectations]Recently I've been experimenting with my voice, trying to open it up and attain use of it. I am no vocalist, and I have had no teaching of any kind, but I would very much like to have a voice to use when I need it.

[url]http://www.soundclick.com/lowexpectations[/url]
The top song, (White Maple Monsters) is something I put together yesterday on a whim, its rather rough, but criticism and tips (perhaps bashing, if you feel so inclined, but I already know I have a long way to go) on my vocals would be very much appreciated. The instrumentals are also me (except for the drum machine.)

It's good to get help early on, so as to not develop bad habits and such. Also, is this something I should keep persuing? I don't want to spend too much time if I don't have some sort of potential for something good.[/QUOTE]

Well i've heard way worse. Sounds like youre holding back a bit. And sounds like you just might be pushing your tongue root down which makes the sound kinda open sounding. This can be ok at times. But in general you should think about keeping your tongue relaxed and many times around your bottom front teeth. This is general stuff to give you an idea. By no means should you think about doing it all the time. But think about it and practice singing holding the ING sound. Sounds like your breath support is decent but could probably be better. I dont know how youre trying to sing either. But I would say practice doing an AH at speaking voice level. without moving anything at all. Just open your mouth and let it go. Keep practicing.

[QUOTE=Merkaba]May or may not. Some people cant even access their head voice. So as far as we know you might not be either. Or you could be singing so incorrectly that youre cramping alot of your range. The thing is to try to sing the note youre trying to scream first. You gotta be able to sing it before you can add anything to it. Alot of people try so hard to blast a scream that they can't even get the note/tone they are trying to achieve. Maybe post a sample of you singing/screaming or whatever. Or preferably of you doing some rising scales from around middle C.[/QUOTE]\

See I can't even sing really. Thats probably my first problem that I should fix haha

Definitely should be the first.