im going for the crucial unit/the blood brothers scream but i cant go that high, i can only do like senses fail screams like in 187

[QUOTE=himynameistweek]ok, i've been trying this, and it sounds like i might be on the right track, but it's kind of hurting, so i'm a little concerned. any ideas on what i might be doing wrong?
by the way, where are you from? there's a band called merkaba here...[/QUOTE]

Im from SC.

Merkaba is a very ancient meditation. There are a few bands that use the name....

dammit!

hehe.

It should hurt. at all. Vocalizing should be fun to you even when youre working. Be sure youre not squeezing your throat up. Remember to try to get the feel with minimal push. Way minimal when you first start off.

wut other bands use vocal fry?

[QUOTE=drums4mtl]im going for the crucial unit/the blood brothers scream but i cant go that high, i can only do like senses fail screams like in 187[/QUOTE]
i think my lead singer can go that high listen to him [URL=www.myspace.com/videoonmute]www.myspace.com/videoonmute[/URL] and is how would you rate him merk

oh my... thats some crazy screaming... like... wow... lol, yeah he has it down i think

grr, lol

bump

silver, how do you do a scream like Shinedown? in that song Fly From the Inside

meh..... :upset:

Any newbies to this thread or forum i suggest you go back to more recent information maybe start around page 20 or something.

ok man.... im still confused about the whole falsetto kind of singing... plz plz explain

Think Beegees , or The Darkness

Hey merkaba1...awesome advice so far but do you think It would be wise for me to wait till my voice to completely develop into an adult before I start screaming again? I've been screaming since last november and as I get better at it I get worse at normal singing. There used to be just about nothing I couldn't sing. Then I thought I'd try screaming but it's messing up my throat.

I was just wondering if it matters the way u stand when u scream. somtimes i bedn over and i wasnt to sure if it was healthy or not.

[QUOTE=Alustle]Hey merkaba1...awesome advice so far but do you think It would be wise for me to wait till my voice to completely develop into an adult before I start screaming again? I've been screaming since last november and as I get better at it I get worse at normal singing. There used to be just about nothing I couldn't sing. Then I thought I'd try screaming but it's messing up my throat.[/QUOTE]
If youre using proper technique it shouldnt bother you because a scream when done correctly is just a big version of any other well produced note. Other than that I cant tell you if youre doing it correctly or not, or warming up or warming down or eating too much bullcrap or whatever the case may be. If your normal singing is deteriorating then youre obviously doing something terribly wrong. It might start to get lower as you age out of the teens but other than that age shouldnt cause any problems unless youre like 11 or 12 but even then when done properly you can gain strength. How old are you anyways?

[QUOTE=JessJansen]I was just wondering if it matters the way u stand when u scream. somtimes i bedn over and i wasnt to sure if it was healthy or not.[/QUOTE]
It can make a difference because youre not gonna be able to get good support if you bend over...at least not like you would if you were upright. But too upright and stiff can lead to tension as well. Bending over wont allow the diaphragm and lungs to expand to full capacity but if you know proper singing/screaming you can do it all day bent over but thats something that would come with time.

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]It can make a difference because youre not gonna be able to get good support if you bend over...at least not like you would if you were upright. But too upright and stiff can lead to tension as well. Bending over wont allow the diaphragm and lungs to expand to full capacity but if you know proper singing/screaming you can do it all day bent over but thats something that would come with time.[/QUOTE]
ok thank you

Hey, I've been practicing some screaming lately and I was wondering if you could help me out with something.

Dallas Taylor (old singer from underOATH, now sings in Maylene and the Sons of Disaster) pretty much inspired me to get into singing and screaming. I never actually caught on to how he does his scream though, it's so unique and unlike anything else out there. If possible, could you give me a technique to make that kind of scream?

Ok...will somebody post a sample of this goddam underoath scream. It cant be that **** special. All i hear about is underoath.

Go to the top of this forum to the jams session links and then go into voichelp hotline and realize what the vocal cords do. You have to first have strong cords and good technique. The cords can only make vowel sounds...everything else comes from your manipulating the sound after you have produced it well.

hey merkaba-1,
im surprised nobody's mentioned this, because i think this is one of the best/most unique screams ive ever heard.
stza from leftover crack.. he has an insane shredded, raspy voice that hurts my throat just listening to it but its so **** good..
please check out this link for the songs Born to Die and Heroin or Suicide.
both have really good screams especially in the last third or so.
please do a little review of his scream, im sure many punks on here would appreciate it.

In your excitement and fervor you forgot the link!

[QUOTE=Merkaba-1]Ok...will somebody post a sample of this goddam underoath scream. It cant be that **** special. All i hear about is underoath.

Go to the top of this forum to the jams session links and then go into voichelp hotline and realize what the vocal cords do. You have to first have strong cords and good technique. The cords can only make vowel sounds...everything else comes from your manipulating the sound after you have produced it well.[/QUOTE]
underoath is a great band, but the screamer isn't anything that special. i think a lot of people are asking about it because it sounds a little different than what's usually heard in emo-esque music, i.e. hawthorne heights. but, i can't get that sound either, so if there is some difference in the technique it would be nice to know. i'm at school right now, but when i get home i'll find a link if nobody else has.

Someone said the same thing about the guitar when it first came out for music. I mean it was unheard of. How can you play music with it???? But look what happened...

sorry merkaba, suppose i did forget the link, my bad, haha here it is. PLEASE GIVE A REVIEW!
[url]www.purevolume.com/smashedtopieces[/url]

ok, merkaba, here you go.
[url]http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3UTGQDM28SBVP1UENSH1TDUZAU[/url]

[QUOTE=osirisblind]sorry merkaba, suppose i did forget the link, my bad, haha here it is. PLEASE GIVE A REVIEW!
[url]www.purevolume.com/smashedtopieces[/url][/QUOTE]
the link is still wrong but i figured it out.

Nothing going on in leftover crack that I havent talked about. Rather typical...

Thanks tweak...
dude has a strong voice. But its no different than any other raspy scream...ala mudvayne, deftones, Finch, etc..

We still need some sort of sticky thread, where the first post pretty much explains everything like it should be explained. :)

Hey does anyone no Tame by the Pixies? If you do then could you tell me what kinda screaming Frank Black is doing/ if he's doing the Kurt Cobain thing where he's not really screaming?

*sigh*

Hmm...whoever posted the underOATH song on here posted the new stuff. I was talking about the old singer, Dallas Taylor. Go to [URL=http://www.purevolume.com/underoath]http://www.purevolume.com/underoath[/URL] and listen to "When The Sun Sleeps". That's just a sample of his screaming, not one of their best songs. If you wanna be adventurous and listen to their amazing stuff, check out "The Changing of Times", "Short of Daybreak", "Never Meant To Break Your Heart", and lots of others...could you tell me any techniques to make this kind of scream? Or is it just a naturally strong voice?

[QUOTE=CDoasis]*sigh*[/QUOTE]

I've got it...Its spring time. Everyone gets the fever...and goes to a concert or two and everyone wants to know how to scream like their fave so they can be in a band. It's in the air.

I just wanna say thanks a ton Merkaba. Before I read this thread, I could scream, but I was using the wrong techniques so i was messing up my voice and having sore throat after sore throat. After using your technique, I haven't had that problem, and my screams are better than ever. My range has improved too. Thanks a ton man. :thumb:

Thanks. Sounded like an infomercial for a second there...but thats good.
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I have always been told I have really good screaming voice. I also have had a very adaptable screaming voice. I could do the oi sounds like the unseen and the political stuff like Rise Against and Strike anywhere or even the harder stuff like atreyu on the curse. I always sing along with my music and it came naturally to me. I could sing for 3-4 hours before feeling a little scratchy and stuff. but for the last few months I can't even hit the screams anymore. I don't know what I did wrong. Once in awhile I will get it back but it only lasts 2-3 songs and then I can't do it again for a couple of days. i want my screams back.

[QUOTE=crazypunker22]I have always been told I have really good screaming voice. I also have had a very adaptable screaming voice. I could do the oi sounds like the unseen and the political stuff like Rise Against and Strike anywhere or even the harder stuff like atreyu on the curse. I always sing along with my music and it came naturally to me. I could sing for 3-4 hours before feeling a little scratchy and stuff. but for the last few months I can't even hit the screams anymore. I don't know what I did wrong. Once in awhile I will get it back but it only lasts 2-3 songs and then I can't do it again for a couple of days. i want my screams back.[/QUOTE]

I'm no expert on this stuff, so it'd be better to get an answer from Merkaba. But...doing screams like the guy from Atreyu does isn't really healthy for your vocal chords, but then again...no scream is healthy for your vocal chords. Also, you shouldn't be singing for 3-4 hours at a time. That's way too much, even if you are a professional and have been singing for years. Maybe rest your voice for a little while, and once your screams come back, don't overdo it. Take it slowly step by step, you don't wanna permanently damage your voice.

I didn't feel like reading but I know its wrong, all you need to do is clamp your balls with a vice.

[QUOTE=crazypunker22]I have always been told I have really good screaming voice. I also have had a very adaptable screaming voice. I could do the oi sounds like the unseen and the political stuff like Rise Against and Strike anywhere or even the harder stuff like atreyu on the curse. I always sing along with my music and it came naturally to me. I could sing for 3-4 hours before feeling a little scratchy and stuff. but for the last few months I can't even hit the screams anymore. I don't know what I did wrong. Once in awhile I will get it back but it only lasts 2-3 songs and then I can't do it again for a couple of days. i want my screams back.[/QUOTE]
well...sometimes people just lose it. And then they get it back. Many times they overthink for some reason or another, and this leads to tensing of the throat and muscles. First off how old are you? If youre going through puberty or close to it, you might have some issues because of the larynx growing and etc. There's not much I can tell ya. This is what happened to me once...I was trying to learn how to do some style, i cant remember who...I could get it for a while but I soon lost it and I tried again and could get it but lost it not too longer afterwards again. Then i go it back...but a while later I realized i couldnt do some of the other stuff i was doing. Over time I realized that I had picked up some bad throat positioning and tensing as i had tried to mimmick that one style...and i carried part of it over into my normal singing. I would say this was about a three month period. So be sure youre using proper technique. It should be easy to do just about any style if you know the fundamentals. YOu might not be able to match it perfectly but you'll know how to get there over time. If you can post a sample it might help. Just remember to warm up...and dont over push. Just cant really tell anything by your post. Youre basically saying you cant scream...so thats starting you with everyone else! Is your speaking voice affected any, or are you gravelly sounding, any pain? And perhaps it could be related to the allergy season sinus problems, mucus, etc.

[QUOTE=sundaysbest777]hey whats up guys,

i've read the whole thread and all the posts about screaming emocore style, but i

1) Can anyone give me directtips on how to scream like spencer of underoath

2) whenever i try to scream it has a thin tone, how do i thicken it up?

3) i notice whenever i have a head/chest cold my singing and screaming quality decreses? is it just me or is this common?[/QUOTE]

first of all....when you scream, don't make it all come from your throat. when you breathe, go from your diaphram (it increases air flow and the ability to scream louder and harder), do not try to scream at the top of your lungs...it sounds like your gonna die or something...sometimes if you try to add your voice at a lower tone it'll turn out great....it is common when you have a cold to decrease the quality in your screams....just keep trying and you'll get it!!!

Hey Merkaba...I have another question for you. :D You know the band As I Lay Dying? Tim, their vocalist, is one of the most amazing screamers I have ever heard, in my opinion. Can you check out this song for me and tell me how he does his scream? [url]www.myspace.com/asilaydying[/url] ...the song is called Distance is Darkness. There are a lot of different screams in the song, but the ones I wanna know how to do the most are the insanely deep screams. They sound so awesome. If you could help me out, I'd appreciate it. :)

[QUOTE=JomJom]Hey Merkaba...I have another question for you. :D You know the band As I Lay Dying? Tim, their vocalist, is one of the most amazing screamers I have ever heard, in my opinion. Can you check out this song for me and tell me how he does his scream? [url]www.myspace.com/asilaydying[/url] ...the song is called Distance is Darkness. There are a lot of different screams in the song, but the ones I wanna know how to do the most are the insanely deep screams. They sound so awesome. If you could help me out, I'd appreciate it. :)[/QUOTE]
ok, here's what you do. this is the exact technique, and you can't stray from it at all. it's really simple. you just grab a bottle of paint thinner, and chug that ****.


















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