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Huber 09-17-2005 11:38 PM

I second the "go away" statement, except add "stop breathing and jump in a river" at the end.

FlyingPaul_83 09-17-2005 11:48 PM

yeh.


I like the little soft interlude songs on ETI. pretty cool.

The end of everything is awesome aswell.

DaveTheAmazing 09-20-2005 02:53 PM

Hello Trivium fans. My name is Dave and I like Trivium because i was watching the TV channel Scuzz and then they came on and i was like OMG it was the lolzords and I liked them lots so I'm gunna download a few songs and would to enquire as to which ones are best.

Josh 09-20-2005 02:58 PM

[QUOTE=DaveTheAmazing]Hello Trivium fans. My name is Dave and I like Trivium because i was watching the TV channel Scuzz and then they came on and i was like OMG it was the lolzords and I liked them lots so I'm gunna download a few songs and would to enquire as to which ones are best.[/QUOTE]
from "Ascendancy" i would recommend:
Dying in Your Arms
Pull Harder on the Strings of Your Martyr
Rain
A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation
Like Light to the Flies

DaveTheAmazing 09-20-2005 02:59 PM

I listened to fugue and it was a good one

TheGlassPrison 09-20-2005 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=Wish]From Ember To Inferno I suggest:


Pillars Of Serpents
If I Could Collapse The Masses
To Burn The Eye
Falling To Grey
When All Light Dies[/QUOTE]

fugue is my favorite song off that album

GenuineImitation 09-20-2005 03:32 PM

[QUOTE=Wish]From Ember To Inferno I suggest:


Pillars Of Serpents
If I Could Collapse The Masses
To Burn The Eye
Falling To Grey
When All Light Dies[/QUOTE]

My Hatred is pretty good as well.

KittensInMicrowaves 09-20-2005 03:38 PM

I love how that moron up there uses the phrase standard metalcore solos... traditional metalcore does not have guitar soloing at all.

OMGGGGG Trivium is da crappiest metalcorez bannd hot topic hot topic hot topic.... crappy metalcore scremaZzzz omg omg lololoz

:rolleyes:

SomeGuySomewhere 09-20-2005 04:08 PM

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]I love how that moron up there uses the phrase standard metalcore solos... traditional metalcore does not have guitar soloing at all.

OMGGGGG Trivium is da crappiest metalcorez bannd hot topic hot topic hot topic.... crappy metalcore scremaZzzz omg omg lololoz

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

The worst metalcore band goes to As I lay Dying, the ****tiest riffage I've heard from a "talented" band. I only give their drummer some credit, but he over thinks his drumming way to much for it to flow with the music.

Westicle 09-21-2005 07:06 AM

The thing is, is that most Metalcore does sound different. Just like whatever you listen to you can actually tell the difference between each band...metalcore listeners can tell the difference between those bands. So shutup with the metal-core bashing stuff because honestly ide like to see you play anything by Trivium, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Into The Moat, Norma Jean, or The Chariot. Its all complicated...and surely your not good enough at anything.

Shred Danson 09-21-2005 07:14 AM

I wouldn't call Dillenger metalcore, buddy.

i am the robots 09-21-2005 07:16 AM

[QUOTE=Westicle]The thing is, is that most Metalcore does sound different. Just like whatever you listen to you can actually tell the difference between each band...metalcore listeners can tell the difference between those bands. So shutup with the metal-core bashing stuff because honestly ide like to see you play anything by Trivium, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Into The Moat, Norma Jean, or The Chariot. Its all complicated...and surely your not good enough at anything.[/QUOTE]

Guess what. None of those bands are Metalcore. Trivium = Post Hardcore Metal, Dillinger Escape Plan = Math Metal, The Number 12 Looks Like You = grind, Norma Jean = Post Hardcore Metal, and The Chariot = Post Hardcore Metal, so stop trying to be knowlageable about subjects you don't even know.

Shred Danson 09-21-2005 07:19 AM

He's just picking out all the "new bands" and calling them "metalcore" since that's the popular genre these days :rolleyes: . He's probably only heard "Miss Machine" by DEP :lol: lolerzletzthrowrox@him

i am the robots 09-21-2005 07:22 AM

Yeah, next thing you know Sevendust is Metalcore... [has heard kids referring to them as such :angry:]. But yes, he's been spiggerbwned mah damey.

Shred Danson 09-21-2005 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Yeah, next thing you know Sevendust is Metalcore... [has heard kids referring to them as such :angry:]. But yes, he's been spiggerbwned mah damey.[/QUOTE]

Dude, you said spigger! We haven't said that in like a bajillion years!

LOLZ KORNZ NU CD IS METALCORE BECUZ ITZ NUUUUU!

mr black 09-21-2005 08:27 AM

Why the hell is everyone in here talking like a knob... "lolzorz" and what not. Whats the point of this thread anyway, its a complete flame fest. They're a good band by todays standards and much more talented than anyone here bagging them which is why their making money for their stuff and your not. Get over it... :chug:

Shred Danson 09-21-2005 09:02 AM

[QUOTE=mr black]Why the hell is everyone in here talking like a knob... "lolzorz" and what not. Whats the point of this thread anyway, its a complete flame fest. They're a good band by todays standards and much more talented than anyone here bagging them which is why their making money for their stuff and your not. Get over it... :chug:[/QUOTE]

OK, dude,

1). We're talking like "knobs" because we're being sarcastic right now. I don't really type like that.

2). The whole thread isn't a flame fest, there have been a hell of a lot of pro-Trivium posts in here as well. The point of this thread is to have Trivium discussion. I'd rather not have blatant flaming here, but some people are idiots.

3). Nobody's bitching about them making way more many than anybody else, if somebody hates a band, that shouldn't (and most likely isn't) the reason. You get over it. And they're a fairly new band, dude, even to the mainstream, so I doubt they're making a lot of cash.

4). You can't prove they are much more talented than anyone in this thread, that's just a terrible thing to say over the internet. I'm sure there's plenty of people here that could shred like madmen.

SomeGuySomewhere 09-21-2005 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=Westicle]The thing is, is that most Metalcore does sound different. Just like whatever you listen to you can actually tell the difference between each band...metalcore listeners can tell the difference between those bands. So shutup with the metal-core bashing stuff because honestly ide like to see you play anything by Trivium, Dillinger Escape Plan, The Number 12 Looks Like You, Into The Moat, Norma Jean, or The Chariot. Its all complicated...and surely your not good enough at anything.[/QUOTE]

I play Tech Death. Fair enough?

cheatingdeath 09-22-2005 03:23 PM

i think dying in your arms is the most amazing song ever the lyrics really mean somthing to me

KittensInMicrowaves 09-22-2005 07:06 PM

[QUOTE=cheatingdeath]i think dying in your arms is the most amazing song ever the lyrics really mean somthing to me[/QUOTE]

I guess its a good love song, I prefer their other stuff better tho

mr black 09-22-2005 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=ICB]OK, dude,

1). We're talking like "knobs" because we're being sarcastic right now. I don't really type like that.

2). The whole thread isn't a flame fest, there have been a hell of a lot of pro-Trivium posts in here as well. The point of this thread is to have Trivium discussion. I'd rather not have blatant flaming here, but some people are idiots.

3). Nobody's bitching about them making way more many than anybody else, if somebody hates a band, that shouldn't (and most likely isn't) the reason. You get over it. And they're a fairly new band, dude, even to the mainstream, so I doubt they're making a lot of cash.

4). You can't prove they are much more talented than anyone in this thread, that's just a terrible thing to say over the internet. I'm sure there's plenty of people here that could shred like madmen.[/QUOTE]


Ah well i got pOwnd :thumb:

1omega3 09-23-2005 06:26 AM

Heading to see Trivium at the Wedgewood Rooms in Portsmouth, by the way the earlier sections of the tour have been shaping up it looks set to be a pretty kick *** gig. I've not managed to get hold of Ember to Inferno yet but Ascendancy really sets a standard for the newer bands that have been appearing in the recent past, with more bands that seem to care whether they actually have some kind of thought put into their music the quality looks set to explode again. Not a moment too soon either.

Westicle 09-23-2005 06:44 AM

Every single one of those bands considers themselves a part of metalcore. And actually no...I havent just heard Miss Machine, I own their 2 CD's and 1 EP. But anyway. Norma Jean is most defintely metalcore, everything about them is metalcore except for maybe the constant odd timing. Same with the Chariot considering they have the old NJ singer and they sound exactly alike.

KittensInMicrowaves 09-24-2005 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=Westicle]Every single one of those bands considers themselves a part of metalcore. And actually no...I havent just heard Miss Machine, I own their 2 CD's and 1 EP. But anyway. Norma Jean is most defintely metalcore, everything about them is metalcore except for maybe the constant odd timing. Same with the Chariot considering they have the old NJ singer and they sound exactly alike.[/QUOTE]

I've never heard Trivium position themselves as a metalcore band, I think Matt would be rather peeved at the suggestion, look at his influences and the bands he likes, Converge are not his heroes

Itwasthatwas 09-24-2005 05:45 PM

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]I've never heard Trivium position themselves as a metalcore band, I think Matt would be rather peeved at the suggestion, look at his influences and the bands he likes, Converge are not his heroes[/QUOTE]

:rolleyes:
You haven't been a fan for very long have you. Or at least not enough of a fan to have found out anything about them pre-Ascendancy era.

Trivium 09-24-2005 10:24 PM

So I just watched an interview of matt and here's what he said 2 tracks on the next album that he already wrote would be:

1. Motley Crue sounding song (ehh...)
2. 18 minute 4 part instrumental song (F[font=]UC[/font]K yeah

KittensInMicrowaves 09-24-2005 10:26 PM

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]:rolleyes:
You haven't been a fan for very long have you. Or at least not enough of a fan to have found out anything about them pre-Ascendancy era.[/QUOTE]

When did Matt say they were metalcore? I've been a fan of the band for a while, the only thing I heard was melodicdeathcore, but I think he said that in jest. Not to mention, on ETI, he lists one of his roles as classical guitar, how many bands who want to be considered metalcore list classical guitar as an instrument?

That deserves a :rolleyes:

Itwasthatwas 09-24-2005 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=KittensInMicrowaves]When did Matt say they were metalcore? I've been a fan of the band for a while, the only thing I heard was melodicdeathcore, but I think he said that in jest. Not to mention, on ETI, he lists one of his roles as classical guitar, how many bands who want to be considered metalcore list classical guitar as an instrument?

That deserves a :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Tons of bands hail to classical. Take All That Remains for example. On their bio, they essentially said "we are metalcore", and Oli Herbert is a classically trained guitarist, with more classical influence in his songwriting than Trivium could ever hope for. That was a completely ridiculous statement on your part, especially considering the fact that many metalcore bands are classified as such mainly out of their combination of starkly different elements. Like Between the Buried and Me for example.. In fact, even Matt's listing of classical guitar as an instrument on ETI was completely ridiculous, considering that half if not more of the acoustic parts on the album are not performed by him, besides which most of these parts don't even merit the label 'classical'.

On Trivium's site, pre-Ascendancy era, they listed themselves as "melodic death metalcore" on the main page, in the short paragraph attempting to describe a band. For a young band like them, at the time trying to get signed and move into a more professional setting, it was obviously not a jest. Before Roadrunner decided to bring up "the next Metallica" gimmick, Matt always listed metalcore and melodeath influences equally high if not higher than the bands thrash influence. The name Trivium itself is derived from the latin word for "a three way intersection", referring to the blend of Melodic Death, Metalcore, and Thrash. While calling Trivium completely metalcore is just ignorant, metalcore is certainly a very strong element of their sound.

Turkish 09-25-2005 02:00 PM

I love the band, Pillar of Serpents, Fugue, A Gunshot to the Head of Trepidation, Like Light to Flies and Declaration or some of my favorite tracks.

i am the robots 09-25-2005 02:36 PM

[QUOTE=Itwasthatwas]Tons of bands hail to classical. Take All That Remains for example. On their bio, they essentially said "we are metalcore", and Oli Herbert is a classically trained guitarist, with more classical influence in his songwriting than Trivium could ever hope for. That was a completely ridiculous statement on your part, especially considering the fact that many metalcore bands are classified as such mainly out of their combination of starkly different elements. Like Between the Buried and Me for example.. In fact, even Matt's listing of classical guitar as an instrument on ETI was completely ridiculous, considering that half if not more of the acoustic parts on the album are not performed by him, besides which most of these parts don't even merit the label 'classical'.

On Trivium's site, pre-Ascendancy era, they listed themselves as "melodic death metalcore" on the main page, in the short paragraph attempting to describe a band. For a young band like them, at the time trying to get signed and move into a more professional setting, it was obviously not a jest. Before Roadrunner decided to bring up "the next Metallica" gimmick, Matt always listed metalcore and melodeath influences equally high if not higher than the bands thrash influence. The name Trivium itself is derived from the latin word for "a three way intersection", referring to the blend of Melodic Death, Metalcore, and Thrash. While calling Trivium completely metalcore is just ignorant, metalcore is certainly a very strong element of their sound.[/QUOTE]

Wow, excellent post! I've just recently gotten into the band, and I really agree with what you are saying, except for the fact that I see very little hardcore in their music, still they are a great band.


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