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Walrus Gumboot 12-13-2004 08:35 PM

Yeah Ontario kicks ***, and so does Canada really, until winter hits, then it still kicks ***, just slightly less

I thought Let It Be was very weak, although I like it more than some of ther very earlier stuff (of which the likeability explodes when you first hear it but quickly fades after hearing it too many times). But considering what came before Let It Be, I thought it was a step backwards, but still very good, esp. Across The Universe :faints:

DeusExMachina 12-13-2004 09:02 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]Wait a sec, I'm in Ontario right now.:eek:

Hapiness is a Warm Gun or While My Guitar Gently Weeps?[/QUOTE]

If I'm in a short attention span mood, HIAWG. Otherwise, While My Guitar Gently Weeps.

gmoneyguy 12-13-2004 09:08 PM

Hard choice, But seeing how i prefer the guitar work in While My guitar Gently Weeps I am going to choose While My guitar Gently Weeps.

Seafroggys 12-13-2004 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=Livewired]Wait a sec, I'm in Ontario right now.:eek:

Hapiness is a Warm Gun or While My Guitar Gently Weeps?[/QUOTE]

Happiness is a Warm Gun.

Oh, I just saw the Concert for Bangladesh video! Awesome show! (almost fell asleep during the Dylan part though, but I was really tired).

BludgeonySteve 12-13-2004 09:49 PM

While My Guitar Gently Weeps is classic.

Even better done by Jeff Healey :thumb:

/shameless Jeff Healey promoting once again.

gmoneyguy 12-13-2004 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]While My Guitar Gently Weeps is classic.

Even better done by Jeff Healey :thumb:

/shameless Jeff Healey promoting once again.[/QUOTE]
Too bad its not.

BludgeonySteve 12-13-2004 09:53 PM

Heard it?

gmoneyguy 12-13-2004 10:14 PM

[QUOTE=rock not roll]Heard it?[/QUOTE]
When I tried to get into Healey that was one of the first songs I downloaded.
So yes I have.

BludgeonySteve 12-13-2004 10:59 PM

Lies! :(

:(

Well, atleast the guitar is better on it ;).

BlackSG 12-13-2004 11:30 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]George was definitely rad, and very underlooked. His solo career is really incredible, and songs like Here Comes the Sun and Something are just incredible.[/QUOTE]
yea ur right about George...but i was surprised that he didnt want to quit as bad as Ringo...John and Paul kick *** but the other two defenately deserved way more credit

Jaded 12-14-2004 12:00 AM

I love their later stuff. I don't really like their early bubblegum stuff. Big fan of Magical Mystery Tour and the White Album. Revolver is awesome as well. Unfortunately, I don't have any of their stuff of CD, just vinyl, so I can't listen to it that much.

gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi 12-14-2004 01:35 PM

hmmmm where should i start. First of all i think that the beatles werent that great at all. I mean none of htem were very acomplished at any of the instruments that they played. I mean people say that John Lennon isone of the greatist guitarists of all time. i have to disagree. i mean what was so creative about the way he played guitar. Simple chords thast anyone can play is what i say. and i think that paul was a horrible writer. I mean all o his songs sound the same. "I love you la la la hoo hoo hoo" I mean all of his songs were this in different forms. George harrison is another story. Some eastern asian ripoff guitarist. "oh hes into eastern spearituality" so what. Oh and dont even get me started with ringo. He was really bad at drumming. i could play any of his drumbeats and i dont even know how to play drums.
When you look at the grand scheme of things i think you will agree with me. they werent that great of a band and i dont know why thaey are so popular.

gmoneyguy 12-14-2004 01:40 PM

[QUOTE=gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi]I am ignorant.[/QUOTE]
You could have type this and your point would be the same.
First off, john is the rythym guitarist of course he plays simple chords. do you feel smart for coming up with such an obvious revelation?

Ringo's beats are made to suit the music, not to back thrash metal. You don't play do you? So don't make an ignoratn comment.

They aren't accomplished on any intsruments? Wrong. Paul and john both played Piano. George played the citar. On top of their regular instruments.

I don't and many people who have any sort of respect for music in general would not agree with you.

DeusExMachina 12-14-2004 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi]hmmmm where should i start. First of all i think that the beatles werent that great at all. I mean none of htem were very acomplished at any of the instruments that they played. I mean people say that John Lennon isone of the greatist guitarists of all time. i have to disagree. i mean what was so creative about the way he played guitar. Simple chords thast anyone can play is what i say. and i think that paul was a horrible writer. I mean all o his songs sound the same. "I love you la la la hoo hoo hoo" I mean all of his songs were this in different forms. George harrison is another story. Some eastern asian ripoff guitarist. "oh hes into eastern spearituality" so what. Oh and dont even get me started with ringo. He was really bad at drumming. i could play any of his drumbeats and i dont even know how to play drums.
When you look at the grand scheme of things i think you will agree with me. they werent that great of a band and i dont know why thaey are so popular. Also, I am a humongous twit who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.[/QUOTE]


You think we'll agree with you? This thread is dedicated to how awesome the Beatles are, obviously we're going to say "gee whiz, the beatles really do suck!" because some sap online told us so. I don't know what you listen to, but its probably crappy death metal or thrash metal, because that **** has no melody, so you wouldn't understand or respect the subtleties of what the Beatles did. Have you heard George play the sitar? He's very, very talented at it. He also can play the ukulele **** well, as showcased on his solo albums. And what do you mean by "eastern asian ripoff guitarist?" I mean, you don't back any of your **** up. By your logic, I can say all speed metal guitarists are just "neo classical rip off guitarists." George's playing was incredibly revolutionary, no one had done that kind of Indian sound before. You seem to have some horrible notion that what makes a band good is how difficult it is to play their songs. Look at me, I can play chromatics at lightning speed, I'm obviously a musical genius! I can play guitar like plenty of speed metal guitarists, but I can't write like The Beatles. You don't know what you're talking about.

Jaded 12-14-2004 04:21 PM

[QUOTE=gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi]hmmmm where should i start. First of all i think that the beatles werent that great at all. I mean none of htem were very acomplished at any of the instruments that they played. I mean people say that John Lennon isone of the greatist guitarists of all time. i have to disagree. i mean what was so creative about the way he played guitar. Simple chords thast anyone can play is what i say. and i think that paul was a horrible writer. I mean all o his songs sound the same. "I love you la la la hoo hoo hoo" I mean all of his songs were this in different forms. George harrison is another story. Some eastern asian ripoff guitarist. "oh hes into eastern spearituality" so what. Oh and dont even get me started with ringo. He was really bad at drumming. i could play any of his drumbeats and i dont even know how to play drums.
When you look at the grand scheme of things i think you will agree with me. they werent that great of a band and i dont know why thaey are so popular.[/QUOTE]
Well, it obviously doesn't matter what you think, because you don't know very much about music or songwriting.

Woodstock 12-14-2004 04:45 PM

I have never heard anyone say that John Lennon is the best guitarist ever. Ever.

Songwriting was the key to the Beatles success. They proved they could make amazing songs without spectacular musicianship. That was toward the early years of their career.

Later in their span was where their musicianship started to shine. George was playing the sitar very well, John became an amazing pianist, and Paul became a great bassist and pianist.

And if you claim to be better at a certain musical instrument than a accomplished musician of 40 years, you're wrong.

JohnLennon 12-14-2004 04:46 PM

This guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. I have been a die-hard Beatles fan for 17 years and I've never seen a band like them. First off, John Lennon was by far the most inspirational/gifted musicians of the 21st century and not to mention the Lennon-McCartney song-writing capabilities. George Harrison was a great man and a talented guitar player, not to mention citar player. Ringo was an amazing drummer for his time, sorry he never did solos like Lars Ulrich you piece of ****...look at their career from Hamburg to 1970, and then tell me they suck. Ignorant...

Jaded 12-14-2004 05:21 PM

[QUOTE=JohnLennon]This guy clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. I have been a die-hard Beatles fan for 17 years and I've never seen a band like them. First off, John Lennon was by far the most inspirational/gifted musicians of the 21st century and not to mention the Lennon-McCartney song-writing capabilities. George Harrison was a great man and a talented guitar player, not to mention citar player. Ringo was an amazing drummer for his time, sorry he never did solos like Lars Ulrich you piece of ****...look at their career from Hamburg to 1970, and then tell me they suck. Ignorant...[/QUOTE]
Okay, lets not assume anything. That guy has only had one post, and he never mentioned anything about metal or Lars Ulrich. Ringo was not an amazing drummer, he was average at best. He could have been way more interesting, but he played some pretty boring stuff.

Distant Echoes 12-14-2004 05:53 PM

Its hard to respect a drummer of such an inspirational band such as the beatles when you compare him to metal/hard rock drummers. Its hard to respect the musical ability, beyond the fact of speed, loudness, etc. if thats all you limit yourself to. As a musician my self, both guitarist and drummer, i can point out certain aspects of song which i know take more talent than what you hear, and learning to play them songs even farther challenges their musical ability to be greater because of skill. To metal/hard rock, Speed and loudness are factors used (sometimes not intentionally) to cover up lack of skill, because as i said, its what you hear that you judge by before getting the basic understanding of music.

In any case, its safe for anybody to say the Ringo Starr probably wasnt the greatest drummer, but by far the most inspiration. And yes, he had more than "just average" talent, but talent beyond the insanity of crazy drum solos and cymbal thrashing

DeusExMachina 12-14-2004 06:11 PM

Lets move on to a friendlier topic. Does anyone have Harrison Live in Bangladesh? Is it any good? I have his Live In Japan CD, and its really amazing.

BludgeonySteve 12-14-2004 06:25 PM

The Beatles were about sounding good. Not making song that are really hard to play.

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx 12-14-2004 06:29 PM

I don't have anything of Harrison's post-Beatles stuff yet... :upset:

well I have one 45...My Sweet Lord/Isn't It a Pity

xxxRoCkJuNkiExxx 12-14-2004 06:32 PM

and for the argument before....Lennon and McCartney were both very talented vocalists

gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi 12-14-2004 06:42 PM

[QUOTE]Well, it obviously doesn't matter what you think, because you don't know very much about music or songwriting.[/QUOTE] Yes i do

gmoneyguy 12-14-2004 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi]Yes i do[/QUOTE]
Very well though out response for this you will recieve neg rep.

woops I didn't see that he was banned.

Seafroggys 12-14-2004 09:34 PM

Well I'm waiting for gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi-mania to sweep America. It should happen in a couple months.

gmoneyguy 12-14-2004 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]Well I'm waiting for gwerkjkgukerhfvoiusdhgoiewrhgi-mania to sweep America. It should happen in a couple months.[/QUOTE]
Im gonna be one of those who burns his records and call him unsafe for children.

DeusExMachina 12-15-2004 02:07 PM

Ignorant people are funny. I wish they could at least back up their opinions. If they don't like The Beatles, I'll live, but intelligence isn't too much to ask for, is it?

Woodstock 12-15-2004 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Lets move on to a friendlier topic. Does anyone have Harrison Live in Bangladesh? Is it any good? I have his Live In Japan CD, and its really amazing.[/QUOTE]
Is that the Concert for Bangladesh? If it is, I would really like to have that on CD. I heard it was a great concert, Harrison+Clapton always equals a great listen.

clown_phobia 12-15-2004 04:59 PM

did you know that eric clapton married george harrison's ex-wife! interesting!

I really like the beatles, they have so many good songs and albums! :thumb:


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