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capri sun junkie 12-15-2004 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]capri - the address is written on a post it at home, and also I am going to rip the CD and give it to you if that doesn't work so chill out.

Buddy - shame on you.[/QUOTE]

Ok, thank you much.

Creeper Kamikaze 12-15-2004 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=DFelon204409]If my opinions are so sh[size=2]i[/size]tty then why am I so fu[size=2]c[/size]king right all the time?

Firstly, you come into an emo thread and suggest people listen to bands that aren't emo. I claim you are wrong. That's not even an opinion to dismiss you. It's just logic.

Secondly, I trashed From Autumn to Ashes. That is where the opinion thing comes in. In this matter, I am right. I guarantee it. Have you ever used your ears to listen to FATA or have you just postulated that they fit into some genre close to Thrice so they must be as good as Thrice? FATA is an abomination in the music world. Every song is predictable and trite, the tones they have selected for the instruments and the tone of the singer (whiny as all hell) and the screamer (muddy and boring), which they couldn't choose, are miserable, and the lyrical content reads like the confused, depressed musings of a middle class suburban white girl. Go cut yourself and rot in a corner before I get to you and do far worse.

Thirdly, you were already completely owned but you didn't even really get why so you pursued an argument with me by making a follow up comment. Has this owning been sufficient or do I need to write out a 5-paragraph essay for you? I have plenty to say about From Autumn to Ashes or how loose I have made you mother. I dare you. I double dare you. Try again, bi[size=2]t[/size]ch.[/QUOTE]

Okkkkk... someone is psycho.

You're right, I wasn't aware that you "owned" me before with that lame comeback. Hell, I wasn't even aware that we were really arguing. My comment was made in jest, but oh well, I guess you're just a d[I]i[/I]ckhead.

[QUOTE]Go cut yourself and rot in a corner before I get to you and do far worse.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that was quite appropriate for the situation. But hey, maybe we can work something out, and you could come visit me. I've broken whiny b[I]i[/I]tches like you all my life. All mouth. Sounds like your daddy didn't show you enough love. Or maybe he showed you too much.

[QUOTE]Has this owning been sufficient or do I need to write out a 5-paragraph essay for you?[/QUOTE]
That depends. Will the essay be as clear-headed and intelligent as your last post? If so, then I'll have to decline your offer. If I want to read more egomaniacal bullsh[I]i[/I]t rantings from you, I'll just read your other posts.

[QUOTE]I dare you. I double dare you. Try again, bitch.[/QUOTE]
Is that supposed to scare me? You double dare me??? You really are a moron.

As much as I would like to carry on this inane argument with a hostile 18 year old retard who can't stand to be disagreed with, I'll leave that up to the other idiots who have nothing better to do than trade insults on a website.

Good luck with everything. You sound like a real winner.

BuddyBigsby 12-15-2004 04:13 PM

because they're emotional. duh.

deux est bovem 12-15-2004 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=BuddyBigsby]because they're emotional. duh.[/QUOTE]

good point, good point. :thumb:

hmmm, but in all seriousness, there are many bands that are way better than fata. and yeah, i would like to here torn's band. and all these other bands that you guys mention but are so hard to find. man, if only my dad would let me have soulseek or something

cbmartinez 12-15-2004 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=Sep]What the hell's the difference between emo and screamo? Is there even a difference?[/QUOTE]

It's a fine line. Screamo is more chaotic, musically and vocally. Most emo bands have something closer to a yell going on. Screamo bands usually have abrasive screams. And like I said, the music is usually more chaotic, almost grindy.

hafez 12-15-2004 11:47 PM

[QUOTE=DFelon204409][b]Emo[/b]
Emo:
I Hate Myself

][/QUOTE]

is it just me or is that the funniest emo band name ever :amaze:

StormX 12-16-2004 03:23 AM

I like FATA...but i kinda seem them as metalcore-ish, not emo..does that make me a bad person?

StormX 12-16-2004 10:57 PM

just because you think they are bad doesn't mean they are.

capri sun junkie 12-17-2004 12:27 AM

I actually like FATA to some extent, but I do think they are bad metalcore...

Compare them to Hoods, 100 Demons, The Warriors, Walls Of Jericho, Premonitions of War, etc. and you will see how they are 'bad metalcore'.

BuddyBigsby 12-17-2004 04:03 AM

I like them, but yeah, that's about right.

cbmartinez 12-17-2004 01:17 PM

Can I get a classification for [url=http://www.purevolume.com/forstellaford]Forstella Ford[/url]? They were on Level-Plane, but I don't think they are "emo."

BuddyBigsby 12-17-2004 01:57 PM

They got back together!

They have some emo to them, some metalcore. I wouldn't label them as one genre.

cbmartinez 12-17-2004 02:19 PM

Really? Nice.

Thanks for the classification. I heard someone call them math metal one time, so I was really confused.

cbmartinez 12-18-2004 10:17 AM

I found a couple bands that I think could be added to the list.

[b]Screamo[/b]
[URL=http://www.purevolume.com/vanjohnson]Van Johnson[/URL]
Crestfallen
In/Humanity
[URL=http://www.hxcmp3.com/play.php?band_id=1636&song_id=12990&mode=song_hifi]Anodyne[/URL]
[URL=http://www.hxcmp3.com/play.php?band_id=1636&song_id=12520&mode=song_hifi]Get Fu[SIZE=2]c[/SIZE]ked[/URL] (might be grind)

[b]Emo or Screamo?[/b]
[URL=http://www.hxcmp3.com/play.php?band_id=1636&song_id=2863&mode=song_hifi]Transistor, Transistor [/URL] (leaning towards screamo)
[URL=http://www.hxcmp3.com/play.php?band_id=1636&song_id=12519&mode=song_hifi]The Fiction[/URL]
[URL=http://www.hxcmp3.com/play.php?band_id=1636&song_id=2865&mode=song_hifi]Wolves[/URL] (leaning towards emo)

Level-Plane= Awesome.

Van Johnson is purevolume. The rest are hxcmp3s.

Also, I think Clikitat Ikatowi should be moved to emo. There's almost no screaming and their music isn't that chaotic. Song Of Zarathustra could be moved to screamo, maybe.

Neoteric 12-18-2004 03:34 PM

eh...Cave In?

Cheeseballlane 12-18-2004 06:49 PM

what do you guys think of das oath?

BuddyBigsby 12-19-2004 02:04 AM

They're ok.

Uhhhhhhh Anodyne are metal dude.

cbmartinez 12-19-2004 09:21 AM

That song doesn't sound it.

BuddyBigsby 12-19-2004 08:57 PM

the link didn't work for me... what album is it off of? because I can see some of their older stuff being borderline, but now they're a metal band a la Mastodon meets Swarm of the Lotus.

cbmartinez 12-19-2004 09:40 PM

Oops, sorry about the links.

[url]http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1636/[/url]

They're all available there.

BuddyBigsby 12-19-2004 09:54 PM

That's from the new album. That song is metal you silly bear.

september endings 12-20-2004 01:52 AM

i'm getting in this a little late so forgive me if i repeat bands you guys have already mentioned.

emo...x
bright eyes
elliot smith
damion rice
pedro the lion
armor for sleep
taking back sunday
matchbook romance
no use for a name
the early november

emocore...x
from autumn to ashes
the beautiful mistake
planes mistaken for stars
further seems forever
a static lullaby
with broken wings
finch
funeral for a friend
the bled
saosin
before today
senses fail

BuddyBigsby 12-20-2004 02:37 AM

Incorrect.

Tangy zizzle 12-20-2004 02:49 AM

Why do you even bother anymore dog?

september endings 12-20-2004 02:59 AM

heh, just went back and read a few pages of this thread trying to obtain good new emo. didn't realize this was a a thread for elitists.

****ing revolver mag, constantly puts taking back sunday in the emo catagory and i'm suppose to the few of your guys "facts" over that of people in the music industry...um, yeah. mainstream emo is emo nevertheless.

you guys remind me of art snobs who sit their bashing other people's art thinking it will make you better then them, but art like music is all personal and different to the indavidual. music is suppose to to be fun, but you guys ****ing take it so ****ing seriously it ****s it up for the rest of us.

u guys are more narrow minded then baptist republicans, and more agressive then asain kids playing star craft. i got a list of bands, and i'm out of this thing before i get "owned" over this internet cool guy club u guys have going on here.

you scenster thread snobs go ahead continue with your thing. what ever gets ur goodies hard.

and if this post doesn't apply to you, then you won't be offended becuase it doens't apply to you.

BuddyBigsby 12-20-2004 03:39 AM

Hahahahaha, wow, you really got offended over one neutral remark.

I'm not an elitist. If I was an elitist, I would've flamed you and also said those bands suck. You need to understand just because you're thinking of the wrong genre for the bands you named does not make them bad bands. I listen to a few of the ones you named. They're simply not emo or emocore though. If you want to reject truth from people that actually know what they're talking about (*sigh*, and yes, that includes tornpictures) then that's your choice, but to call someone an elitist because they know more than you about a particular subject? Grow up.

[QUOTE=Tangy zizzle]Why do you even bother anymore dog?[/QUOTE]

Some of it's boredom, but I think "+1" plays a big role.

BuddyBigsby 12-20-2004 03:41 AM

Plus I always get a good chuckle out of reactions like those.

StormX 12-20-2004 09:15 AM

hmm, just to prove buddy's point, and test my genre skills


[QUOTE=september endings]i'm getting in this a little late so forgive me if i repeat bands you guys have already mentioned.

emo...x
bright eyes [b]pop-rock[/b]
elliot smith [b]pop-rock (i guess, haven't heard)[/b]
damion rice [b]same as above[/b]
pedro the lion [b]?[/b]
armor for sleep [b]post-emo[/b]
taking back sunday [b]post-emo/pop-punk[/b]
matchbook romance [b]pop-punk[/b]
no use for a name [b]pop-punk[/b]
the early november [b]pop-punk[/b]

emocore...x
from autumn to ashes [b]metalcore[/b]
the beautiful mistake [b]dunno[/b]
planes mistaken for stars [b] they were already done by dfelon right?[/b]
further seems forever [b]pop-rock i think[/b]
a static lullaby [b]pop-punk/metalcore[/b]
with broken wings [b]pop-punk[/b]
finch [b]pop-punk[/b]
funeral for a friend [b]pop-punk/metalcore-ish[/b]
the bled [b]metalcore[/b]
saosin [b]pop-punk[/b]
before today [b]?[/b]
senses fail [b]pop-punk[/b][/QUOTE]

september endings 12-20-2004 10:47 AM

it wasn't directed at you buddy, it was directed the the poeple i saw hacking each others heads off becuase of varied opinions.

[I][I]Emo
"Emo" is short for "Emotional Hardcore." The term began as a derogatory one but has been proudly and vehemently claimed by lovers of this dynamic, intensely emotional splinter genre of Hardcore. Much of Emo is characterized introspective lyrics, sudden, surprising shifts in rhythm, ragged, screamingly emotional vocals, pretty instrumental breakdowns, slightly unconventional song structures, [B]and a decidedly un-punk embrace of poppy elements.[/B] The genre's heyday began with bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, The Get-Up Kids, and The Promise Ring. It has since become a more widely popular style, adopted by both radio-ready pop bands like Good Charlotte and Saves the Day and introspective indie singer/songwriters like Bright Eyes and Pedro the Lion. [/I]

[I]Finch
Combining influences from groups like the Deftones and Glassjaw, Finch find a comfortable niche in the void between Nu-Metal and Emo/Punk.[/I]

-taken from audiogalaxy.com

threat mag, sister mag of revolver considers senses fail emo/screamo.
revolver itself considers taking back sunday emo.

bright eyes is not rock, nor are elliot smith, or damein rice. nor they pop. they surely are not pop rock.

you guys have a set opinion of what emo is, and can't tolerate that other people having their own opinion of what emo is. if you search over the web and music mags you will see the bands u consider "punk-pop" are more considered emo.

the likes of matchbook romance, a static lullaby, finch, sense fail do not sound like the likes of yellowcard, green day, blink 182, new found glory.

they have sorrowful lyrics accomanied by gatchy melodies, the screaming of the bands in most of the songs also do not appear in what most would consider pop punk. emo bands typically sing about lost love. they are often jaded, and push an image of hating and dispising love unlike pop-punk.

emo is dirived from punk, but pop/mainstrem-emo is not pop-punk.

with emo becoming heavily radio mainstream, the cure's "love song" and radiohead's "creep" were revived on the airwaves. neither of those bands emo, but those 2 songs with the sorrowful yet beautiful lyrics with the melodic and catchy melodies fall into line with what many consider emo.

thursday IS considered emo by most people, as they find comfort is my chemical romance's music and vice versa.

and the person who originally started this thread just wanted to know a few new emo bands. i'm sure he/she meant mainstream emo, or the pop-punk u guys refer it to. you guys thrashed this thread so that people who originally came here for the mainstrem emo that you guys believe to be punk-pop left.

people like you guys destroy everything with your eliteness. your kind is in all subcultures. from skating to surfing, to poetry, to art, to fashion, to music. you guys obviously know much, but you believe you know it all and you treat newbies to the sub-culture with such hostility that it takes out the fun.

september endings 12-20-2004 10:48 AM

S.O.B., no doubt these guys will tell you that hawthorne heights and silverstein aren't emo. but if you want similar music to it, check our other bands by the same record labels. victory records, epitaph, geffen, drive-thru. mainstream emo bands most importantly have the emo look down, so that is an easy way to spot them.

also, try going to your local venue to see the bands u enjoy, they usually tour with like sounded bands and you can find out new bands easily this way.


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