I love Mer De Noms and Thirteenth Step but I hated Emotive with a passion. Doing crappy covers of classic songs is an original idea, but I think they should stray away from that.

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]I'd just like to know what vocalist, if any, could fill the shoes of MJK.[/QUOTE]

I think Lajon of Sevendust would do okay at it. Haha it'd be funny if billy corgan replaced maynard hahaha how weird would that sound?

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]I think Lajon of Sevendust would do okay at it. Haha it'd be funny if billy corgan replaced maynard hahaha how weird would that sound?[/QUOTE]
Wow, I forgot about Lajon. But Billy Corgan?....... EWW.

[QUOTE=Med57]songmeanings.net is one of the worst sites around for anything like an accurate interpretation of what lyrics are all about. I've been there a few times, and it's been useless for most of them. I hated [i]eMotive[/i], and thought it was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever heard. Although the over politicisation of it annoyed me a bit, the fact that the music wasn't any good was what really got me about it, but there we go...I wasn't wild on the idea of a covers album anyway.[/QUOTE]

I should force everyone to finish rants against that album with the sentence "......but at least passive was good".

But yes, terrible is agreed again. For both parties in question in your comment

[QUOTE=Med57]I hated [i]eMotive[/i], and thought it was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever heard. Although the over politicisation of it annoyed me a bit, the fact that the music wasn't any good was what really got me about it, but there we go...I wasn't wild on the idea of a covers album anyway.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Med57]songmeanings.net is one of the worst sites around for anything like an accurate interpretation of what lyrics are all about. I've been there a few times, and it's been useless for most of them. I hated [i]eMotive[/i], and thought it was one of the most disappointing albums I've ever heard. Although the over politicisation of it annoyed me a bit, the fact that the music wasn't any good was what really got me about it, but there we go...I wasn't wild on the idea of a covers album anyway.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i hate songmeanings, they relate every single tool song to be about religion, which most are not about. The only song i like on eMOTIVE would be passive, and sometimes i listen to imagine.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]I should force everyone to finish rants against that album with the sentence "......but at least passive was good".

But yes, terrible is agreed again. For both parties in question in your comment[/QUOTE]

Agreed, Passive was the one good song on that album, not that it comes close to any of their other work though.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]Yeah i hate songmeanings, they relate every single tool song to be about religion, which most are not about. The only song i like on eMOTIVE would be passive, and sometimes i listen to imagine.[/QUOTE]

They think every Tool song is about religion or anal sex. The anal sex part got very annoying after reading comments on some of Tool's instrumental work. How do you get anal sex out of Triad?

passive isnt an original APC song 9for anyone who didnt already know). It was a track from the Tapeworm project which was about to vanish into the land of neverrealsedhell (like the Mogwai-Deftones joint song :upset: X1000000). That is, until APC took it, covered it and finally allowed the public's ears to sample it

The Tapeworm song was titled "Vacant". As was APC's live version of it. It's pretty much the same thing as Passive, except Passive has some minor lyrical changes and isn't quite as "heavy" if you know what I mean.

[QUOTE=White Goodman]The Tapeworm song was titled "Vacant". As was APC's live version of it. It's pretty much the same thing as Passive, except Passive has some minor lyrical changes and isn't quite as "heavy" if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, although they gave the song life, they still managed to f**k it up a bit.

songfacts isnt much better

I think Emotive was probably put together in a matter of minutes. It just seems like somthing MJK did while he was bored one day.

If not that, then it sounds very forced.

[QUOTE=Adam Jones is GOD]passive isnt an original APC song 9for anyone who didnt already know). It was a track from the Tapeworm project which was about to vanish into the land of neverrealsedhell (like the Mogwai-Deftones joint song :upset: X1000000). That is, until APC took it, covered it and finally allowed the public's ears to sample it[/QUOTE]

The whole album is covers isnt it? Im not sure i havent bothered looking up anything about this album.

I didn't think Emotive was that bad, but I guess a lot of people hated it.

emotive had its moments i guess........ but its no thirteenth step

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]The whole album is covers isnt it? Im not sure i havent bothered looking up anything about this album.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think so. Except for Counting Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums, that is a horrible version of another A pefect song, Pet.

[QUOTE=opeth_oasis]The whole album is covers isnt it? Im not sure i havent bothered looking up anything about this album.[/QUOTE]

I think its fair to say there is no completely original band wrote material on that album.

yeah i hate that song, but pet is really good. Thirteenth Step is my favourite APC album

Pet is my favorite APC song. It's just such a shame they had to f**k it up.

I bought the DVD aMOTION the other day. The DVD was pretty good i guess. But the cd that came with it, wow it was almost as bad as eMotive. How do you make remixes to APC songs? Remixes?

ive herd a judith remix, it was terrible

[QUOTE=White Goodman]Pet is my favorite APC song. It's just such a shame they had to f**k it up.

I bought the DVD aMOTION the other day. The DVD was pretty good i guess. But the cd that came with it, wow it was almost as bad as eMotive. How do you make remixes to APC songs? Remixes?[/QUOTE]

You mix them, again.

/rimshot

I was gunna buy that DVD, but something told me not too. I got a Primus one instead. I'll get aMotive next time. Give it a spin.

all the aMOTION DVD is a bunch of music videos and a few live performances. It also had some Bikini Bandit shorts on it. :confused: I really have no clue what those shorts were about. But if you like the music videos then I recommend it.

edit: It does have some MJK commentary on it, which I thought was interesting.

i dont see the point in any cover albums, IMO it just shows you've run out of ideas.

[QUOTE=adams9168] I think they just kinda whipped emotive/amotion together without thinking. It's half-as[b][i][/b][/i]sed if you ask me.[/QUOTE]
Thats kinda what I said before.

The occasional live cover I have no problem with, AKA Diary of a Lovesong-APC or No Quarter-Tool. But I agree, an entire album dedicated to cover songs is a terrible idea.

oh yeah live covers are fine, most of them anyway

New subject.

What does everyone think what Tool would be like if Paul never left?

eMOTIVE was an album that was pretty much rushed. MJK said it himself. I believe their intentions were to bring out a completely original album but when their record label gave them a deadline they decided to go with a cover album. I have it. I've listened to it twice maybe three times. It takes a while to grow on ya, I guess.

sorry, my post came out after the "new topic" one above..

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]New subject.

What does everyone think what Tool would be like if Paul never left?[/QUOTE]

Not knowing much about Paul, or about bass, I don't have the slightest clue.