/throws rotten vegetables at LeftShoe

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[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]/throws rotten vegetables at LeftShoe

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*switch blades*
hxc4life

^ Isn't there a hardcore band called switchblade symphonies?

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And it's hXc 4 lyf <3...psht. :rolleyes:

;)

/hates the hardcore scene

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Is that true?? - oops, just made it worse

*Is in the scene, rather unwillingly*

That said, the Sheffield hardcore scene is pretty nonexistent.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]^ Isn't there a hardcore band called switchblade symphonies?

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switchblade symphony, i thought someone was joking when they told me they listened to that.

ilike the music but i dont liekthe scene, like there is one down here though..
then again we do have a guy running around calling himself "jake x destroyer"

[QUOTE=Larrivée-6-string][url]http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6887303&postcount=17[/url]

Is that true?? - oops, just made it worse[/QUOTE]

I doubt it. The main server crashed a few weeks ago, so the system is probably still reeling and MX hasn't had a chance to fix it yet.

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[QUOTE=fatbandit]*Is in the scene, rather unwillingly*

That said, the Sheffield hardcore scene is pretty nonexistent.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, if you come to the East Coast you'll be amazed. Everything is HARDCORE MO'FU[COLOR=WHITE]CK[/COLOR]A. So many hardcore bands are from the East Coast, specifically New England (mostly here in MA and CT).

I personally met Unearth when they were just starting out. They originated in Winthrop and Lynn (about two towns over), but now live in Lynnfield (about one town over). I see them around here all the time.

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whoever said that is an idiot

[QUOTE=Left Shoe]switchblade symphony, i thought someone was joking when they told me they listened to that.

ilike the music but i dont liekthe scene, like there is one down here though..
then again we do have a guy running around calling himself "jake x destroyer"[/QUOTE]

I hate the scene around here. A few years ago (3 years I think) the scene was emo and indie (check out Anola's Recovery on purevolume. They're friends of mine and have ruled the music scene for about 6 years). I saw the first hardcore show (Unearth, Killing Yourself is Killing Me, a few other local hardcore bands) and since then, it's taken off. It's go generic and awful. I hate it now. It took over the East Coast.

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Some hardcore is alright, though. For the most part it's like a virus.

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So wherabouts are Minor Threat from? I like them, and the whole sXe thing was good when they started it. I know nothing about America pretty much. I just don't think England is that good for hardcore.

^ America's not as bad as people make it out to be. We're not all fat, unintelligent, and supporters of Bush. In fact, including people under the legal age (18 years), the majority of Americans strongly dislike Bush and his actions as president. If you came here you'd be surprised. It's not as bad as people make it out to be, honestly.

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I'm not sayin its bad! :lol:

I was just saying I know nothing about the hardcore scene there, and what the 'NY hxc' bands do differently to bands from other places. I still don't know where Minor Threat are from though.

By the way, I think Minor Threat was from Washington, D.C., and they're not hardcore at all. They're punk. :p

Hardcore = Unearth, Bleeding Through, Bane, Comeback Kid, etc.

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[QUOTE=fatbandit]I'm not sayin its bad! :lol:

I was just saying I know nothing about the hardcore scene there, and what the 'NY hxc' bands do differently to bands from other places. I still don't know where Minor Threat are from though.[/QUOTE]

Hardcore is very much about "unity." There are certain gangs, known as hardcore crews, that stick together and support eachother (and keep eachother off drugs and support being edge). Boston Beatdown, FSU (stands for Friends Stand United and Fu[COLOR=WHITE]ck[/COLOR] Sh[COLOR=WHITE]it[/COLOR] Up), and a few others are from Boston.

It's like a bunch of gangs with different styles of hardcore. Hardcore around here tends to have a pinch of metal and grind thrown into it, although hardcore kids will vehemtly deny any association to "that metal bullsh[COLOR=WHITE]it[/COLOR]."

It's just like rap; different areas, different styles. The Connecticut scene isn't as screamy as Boston's. CT's has more yelling with raspy vocals (listen to the band With Honor. They're from CT).

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if the majority of americans dont like bush then why did he get voted in

[QUOTE=peeted]if the majority of americans dont like bush then why did he get voted in[/QUOTE]
You do realize that the popular vote has nothing to do with who gets elected, really, and that many people don't vote.

Hm. From the little I do know about Hardcore, I do know Minor Threat were it. I guess its evolved a lot from when Minor Threat were around, and the line between metalcore and hardcore has become a lot more blurred. Hardcore when it started was almost exactly the same as punk, but more aggressive, less plodding (not that all punk plodded, but you get the idea?), and the lyrics were different. More personal - things that affected the band.

^ I said including Americans under 18...Americans under 18 can't vote.

Also, a lot of people refused to vote for either party. They hated Bush, yes, but didn't want Kerry either, and therefore did not vote.

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I think straight edge hardcore is a load of bull****...

[QUOTE=PaulSimonon]You do realize that the popular vote has nothing to do with who gets elected, really, and that many people don't vote.[/QUOTE]

Exactly...

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I hate when people who don't live here try to criticize everything we do and assume we're all fat idiots. There's so many people in the world who hate Bush solely to hate Bush and have no real reasons for it.

People call us "ignorant Americans," but completely ignore the fact they're being ignorant themselves...**** hypocrites.

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[QUOTE=Dieforitall89]I think straight edge hardcore is a load of bull****...[/QUOTE]

Meh, some people think that. I think being straight edge is OK, and the music isn't what kills me...it's the scene kids and fashioncore kids that do it to be cool and fit in. They ruined the scene by starting generic bands, and therefore the music...

...not that the music was that good to begin with (although some of it was).

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Less Bush, more Hardcore >.<

And you can think sXe is a load of bull if you want DFIA, but I like it. I'm not so much into the actual music, but a little. Its a lifestyle choice, and if I weren't edge, I'd only have more respect for myself for being it (I even confused myself there...)

It had a much more positive connotation originally. It got a little out of hand, which is why Ian McKaye and the rest of Minor Threat wanted to distance themselves from it.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I hate when people who don't live here try to criticize everything we do and assume we're all fat idiots. There's so many people in the world who hate Bush solely to hate Bush and have no real reasons for it.

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Couldn't agree more, i'm British and i know no end of people who hate Bush just because it's "popular" to do so, and are so blinded by their hatred they can't see the "facts" they try and put across are complete bull****. I personally blame bands like Green Day for brining songs like "American idiot" to the pop culture and inciting these kind of feelings in the young and easily impressionable...

hey all :wave:

Not sure if you saw my last MT post on the last page Gav, but no matter. Its not terribly important I suppose.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Meh, some people think that. I think being straight edge is OK, and the music isn't what kills me...it's the scene kids and fashioncore kids that do it to be cool and fit in. They ruined the scene by starting generic bands, and therefore the music...

...not that the music was that good to begin with (although some of it was).

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I said straight edge hardcore is gay not the concept itself, im straight edge but i dont carve gay **** into my body and think im a tough ****...but thats just my view.

...im gonna be sooo busy tonight...dinner then out the door to lessons..then out that door to the recording studio..then home to do homeowork then sleep hopefully before 2 am..

Its only the radical Edgers that go round kicking the **** out of people for not having the edge that give it that image. I don't like the excessive tattooing though. I just don't like tattoos at all though I guess. Its people like that that did give sxe its bad name among some people though.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Meh, some people think that. I think being straight edge is OK, and the music isn't what kills me...it's the scene kids and fashioncore kids that do it to be cool and fit in. They ruined the scene by starting generic bands, and therefore the music...

...not that the music was that good to begin with (although some of it was).

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Bah, I hate jumping into conversations. Straight edge has a music scence? What kind of bands would those be?

[QUOTE=Dieforitall89]I said straight edge hardcore is gay not the concept itself, im straight edge but i dont carve gay **** into my body and think im a tough ****...but thats just my view.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, like fatbandit said, it's only "radical edgers" that give it a bad name.

And yeah, I saw your post, fatbandit, and they're form Washington, D.C. :thumb:

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[QUOTE=risbo]Bah, I hate jumping into conversations. Straight edge has a music scence? What kind of bands would those be?[/QUOTE]

:lol: Are you kidding? Comeback Kid, Bane, etc. Most hardcore bands are straight edge (though not all). :p

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[QUOTE=risbo]Bah, I hate jumping into conversations. Straight edge has a music scence? What kind of bands would those be?[/QUOTE]
Loud screaming root noting three chord wonders..for the most part some are decent though..

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Blah, enough hardcore talk, who here likes New Order?

I feel like I've been living in a hole for the past few years, I've never even heard of those bands or that music scene at all. Where I live there are no over the top straight edgers. Just normal straight edge.

[QUOTE=risbo]I feel like I've been living in a hole for the past few years, I've never even heard of those bands or that music scene at all. Where I live there are no over the top straight edgers. Just normal straight edge.[/QUOTE]
lets just say its a growing trend. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=neal_672]Blah, enough hardcore talk, who here likes New Order?[/QUOTE]
Can't say ive heard of them.

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Couldn't agree more, i'm British and i know no end of people who hate Bush just because it's "popular" to do so, and are so blinded by their hatred they can't see the "facts" they try and put across are complete bull****. I personally blame bands like Green Day for brining songs like "American idiot" to the pop culture and inciting these kind of feelings in the young and easily impressionable...

hey all :wave:[/QUOTE]

I think as long as people aren't using a band to justify their ignorance I don't mind too much. I don't have a problem with hatred of Bush, as long as people can justify it without having to use a thesaurus or blatantly quoting a punk band or the like. Plus, the sort of person who hates Bush just because they think it's cool to do so are pretty easy to spot, and if they're easy to spot then they're easy to ignore :thumb:

^ It's much more than three chords and root notes. The music of most bands is actually pretty good (Unearth's members are all wicked good at their instruments and many others are). Trust me, it's much more than three chords.

It's "...jarring notes and chords, ear-splitting screams with powerful vocals, innovating time sigs, and enough emotion to make your head spin." That's off of my friend's myspace profile. He deleted it but I remembered it because it's so **** funny. :p

However, not all hardcore is generic. It's definitely not just powerchords and root notes. It's mainly all about the breakdown (that's where the best dancing is! :p :rolleyes: )

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