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Stoic 01-26-2007 07:25 AM

I've got the digipack edition. Such a shame I don't like it :-\

Stormrider 01-26-2007 07:36 AM

There's a digipack to the self titled ? :-/ I thought it was only Crimson King...

But yeah, I remember you in the past saying you didn't like Demons and Wizards :mad:

Stoic 01-26-2007 07:54 AM

yeah, it must the Iced Earth influence =)

Here are some pics of the digipack edition:
[url]http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/StormWarrior/?action=view&current=DSC00396.jpg[/url]
[url]http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/StormWarrior/?action=view&current=DSC00397.jpg[/url]
[url]http://s11.photobucket.com/albums/a193/StormWarrior/?action=view&current=DSC00401.jpg[/url]

Stormrider 01-26-2007 08:00 AM

Ohhh, pop up Reaper :p

And quiet with the "must be the Iced Earth Influence"! I should send you those songs I said I'de send you like ages ago. You need to hear some more IE.

:p

Stoic 01-26-2007 08:02 AM

Now you're [I]really[/I] late Jammie. It's the most inappropriate time, I'm busy getting into classic rock. And goth.

Stormrider 01-26-2007 08:10 AM

Darn. Well, when you want them, just ask. I doubt you ever will but hey! I'll just randomly send them one day.

Stoic 01-26-2007 08:11 AM

>_>

/blocks twinky :D

EDIT
Seriously, I wouldn't say no to a song of yours though. Remember the ones who had sent me? Have you written some more?

EDIT2
Don't worry, I'm not stealing them :mad:
[size=1](you think!)[/size]

Stormrider 01-26-2007 08:14 AM

It's called an email, Stoicy :p

Pfft, it's not like you're ever on anyways

[SIZE="1"]dont bock jammie :-([/SIZE]

pate 01-26-2007 08:25 AM

I too have the s/t digipak.

Apocalyptic Raids 01-26-2007 10:09 AM

I like Demons & Wizards' self-titled more than Blind Guardian and Iced Earth.

Lord Tim 01-26-2007 05:51 PM

I never got into D&W myself and I'm actually not sure why.

I love BG and I like IE, and a combination of bombastic BG choruses with the heaviness of IE sounds like it would kill... but the actual result always felt like left over BG material rather than the best work of a hybrid band.

Maybe I should give it another shot and see if I feel differently now, but that was the feeling I got when I heard it the first few times...

publicastration 01-26-2007 05:56 PM

[QUOTE=Lord Tim;14108925]I never got into D&W myself and I'm actually not sure why.

I love BG and I like IE, and a combination of bombastic BG choruses with the heaviness of IE sounds like it would kill... but the actual result always felt like left over BG material rather than the best work of a hybrid band.

Maybe I should give it another shot and see if I feel differently now, but that was the feeling I got when I heard it the first few times...[/QUOTE]

I think Demons & Wizards is good, but not as good as Blind Guardian and Iced Earth separate.

Tyler 01-26-2007 05:59 PM

I think they're all overrated.

Stormrider 01-26-2007 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;14108983]I think they're all overrated.[/QUOTE]

I think you suck :p

Heaven Denies has such an amazing chorus. Just wow.

[QUOTE]
Seriously, I wouldn't say no to a song of yours though. Remember the ones who had sent me? Have you written some more?

EDIT2
Don't worry, I'm not stealing them
(you think!)[/QUOTE]

Oops, just read the edits. Yeah, I remember the ones I sent. And I have written more. Though it's different to the stuff I've sent you. Remember the one you said which had a Death influence, well I kind of edited that one a bit. Didn't change anything that was there, just will be adding stuff...like Keyboards. I use more keyboards/choir these days. Actually, I use a lot heh. Of course the obvious IE influence is still there :p ...I can send one I guess. Don't steal them :mad:

/paranoid :upset:

Eliminator 01-26-2007 06:55 PM

oMg PoWeR mEtAl

MetalOz 01-27-2007 02:11 PM

Anybody follow Savage Circus? Apparently the touring version of the band was basically Iron Savior with the guitarist and vocalist from Persuader but apparently Thomen is back behind the kit now, good news! I think Persuader, Savage Circus, and Iron Savior should tour together since they are all in each other's bands and throw Blind Guardian in as the headliner since SC and Persuader both sound very much like old BG

Deth 01-27-2007 03:08 PM

What Iron Savior should I look for while we're on the subject?

MetalOz 01-27-2007 03:35 PM

Condition Red and Bettering Ram are the ones I have, both good

CaptainWaits 01-31-2007 12:20 PM

There this guy on a local metal forum that's selling some sweet power metal (from what I know) at a reasonable price. I've already met up with him and bought 4 CD's at $10 each....

Angra - Hunters And Prey
Angra - Rebirth
Bal-Sagoth - The Power Comsic
Edguy - Hellfire Club


Now the CD's were in great condition, and I'm interested in maybe meeting up with him again and buying some more, however, I don't know much about some of the other artists. So here's the list of what he has left (and what I don't have).....


Annihilator – Carnival Diablos
At Vance – The Evil In You
Avantasia – The Metal Opera
Brainstorm – Soul Temptation
Freedom Call – Crystal Empire
Gamma Ray – Somewhere Out in Space
Gamma Ray – No World Order
Heavenly – Sign of the Winner
Insania – Sunrise in Riverland
Imperanon – Stained
Mob Rules – Savage Land
Nocturnal Rites – New World Messiah
Sinergy – Suicide By My Side
Sonata Arctica – Reckoning Day
Stratovarius – Infinite Visions (DVD)


So I ask, which of those would be a good buy??

Stoic 01-31-2007 12:31 PM

1. Gamma Ray – Somewhere Out in Space (++)
2. Brainstorm – Soul Temptation
3. Avantasia – The Metal Opera
4. Freedom Call – Crystal Empire

PS Of course, try to listen to some samples first ;)
PS2 I'm not familiar with all the bands/albums you posted.

CaptainWaits 01-31-2007 12:35 PM

I was thinking of getting Somehwere out in Space, and I already have The Metal Opera Part II....so I'm not so sure I want the first one...

But what are the Brainstorm and Freedom Call like?? Just a brief sentence or so would be sweet :). Similarities, etc.

Stoic 01-31-2007 12:55 PM

Well Freedom Call are your typical cheesy euro-power with happy choirs but I remember liking it because it was catchy in the way Avantasia is. Love it or hate it band.

Brainstorm are aggressive power metal, no cheesiness here. Heavy guitars, rough vocals in the vain of Barlow and tasteful, sometimes almost prog sounding keys. Sound like a less technical metallica (MoP) and a more modern straight forward Iced Earth, but these comparisons are rather vague since nothing better comes to my mind :-\ Sometimes they sound a bit too generic to me but they have their moments.

Definitely get the Gamma Ray but think twice about the other two, especially Freedom Call. You can always save money for a slough feg album <3. Or Cage \m/

Are you still on dial up? If so I could name you a couple of sites where you could hear some samples...

Stormrider 01-31-2007 02:02 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic;14115315]Brainstorm are aggressive power metal, no cheesiness here. Heavy guitars, rough vocals in the vain of [B]Barlow[/B] and tasteful, sometimes almost prog sounding keys. Sound like a less technical metallica (MoP) and a more modern straight forward [B]Iced Earth[/B], but these comparisons are rather vague since nothing better comes to my mind :-\ Sometimes they sound a bit too generic to me but they have their moments.[/QUOTE]

ooo, sounds interesting. :-) :P

I havn't checked out new Power Metal bands in a long time. I should start by getting a Manowar album or something :p

MetalOz 01-31-2007 04:20 PM

That Annihilator album is good, probably their best one since 93... but it's more thrahs than power metal...

Stoic 01-31-2007 04:37 PM

Annihilator! I didn't care about them after Alice in Hell. They're not discussed too much either for some reason.

CaptainWaits 01-31-2007 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic;14115315]Are you still on dial up? If so I could name you a couple of sites where you could hear some samples...[/QUOTE]
Yeh, I'm still stuck with this wonderful dial-up :(
[QUOTE=Metal Oz]That Annihilator album is good, probably their best one since 93... but it's more thrahs than power metal...[/QUOTE]
Yeh, I like some Thrash too (Overkill's still my favorite metal band), but I was never huge into Annihilator. Is that one kind of similar to new Testament with the agreesion and heaviness?


And another question about the Gamma Ray.....what are the best songs from it, because I do have "A Blast From the Past" by them, which is a compilation of re-recorded songs.

Stoic 02-01-2007 07:20 AM

Basically, it's a very good compilation and I think the fans chose the songs. It's all good, no complaints. If you want specific recommendations try for example:Heading for Tomorrow, Lust for Life, Man on a Mission and Send me a Sign.

[QUOTE=Animosity]Yeh, I'm still stuck with this wonderful dial-up[/QUOTE]

Dude, I had been on dial from 1998 to 2005. I used to discover music through 30 second samples:
[url]http://www.cduniverse.com[/url]
[url]http://www.last.fm/explore/[/url]

Lord Abortion 02-01-2007 08:44 AM

Get the Nocturnal Rites one...it's absolutely excellent, one of myalltime favourite albums, catchier than AIDS and the common cold mixed together.

Shattered_Future 02-01-2007 01:50 PM

I'm personally partial to the Sonata Arctica one (it's called Reckoning NIGHT, not Day). Love that album.

Stormrider 02-01-2007 06:03 PM

That's the album I downloaded from them a while back...well, I ended up deleting it so... :p

[QUOTE]Get the Nocturnal Rites one...it's absolutely excellent, one of myalltime favourite albums, catchier than AIDS and the common cold mixed together.[/QUOTE]

Sounds cool. I mean in a way that I should check it out...

Stoic 02-01-2007 06:07 PM

Jammie, listen to this band: [url]http://www.myspace.com/airgedlamh6[/url] They're supposed to play power metal in the vein of BG and Iced Earth. They have doom and folk touches too.

Stormrider 02-01-2007 06:12 PM

[QUOTE=Stoic;14123101]Jammie, listen to this band: [url]http://www.myspace.com/airgedlamh6[/url] They're supposed to play power metal in the vein of BG and Iced Earth. They have doom and folk touches too.[/QUOTE]

Okay, will do. Thanks. :) ...I'll come back and say what I think after. I still havn't listened to that song you sent me though...neither those bands you mentioned to me :(

/fails

Stoic 02-01-2007 06:19 PM

Meh big deal Jammie. I know you've got tons of music to listen to, you don't need to feel obliged to listen to the stuff everyone sends you :p

Stormrider 02-01-2007 06:22 PM

Meh, not many people send me stuff anyway. But I will listen to the song you sent and bands you recommended. Just give it some time :p

Deth 02-01-2007 07:33 PM

I didn't find Reckoning Night that appealing, but I really enjoy Winterheart's Guild.

CaptainWaits 02-01-2007 09:29 PM

Can anyone say anything about these artists in the list?:

At Vance
Heavenly
Insania
Mob Rules

^^Those are the bands I know nothing about....so I'm most curious about those.

Shattered_Future 02-01-2007 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=Deth;14123585]I didn't find Reckoning Night that appealing, but I really enjoy Winterheart's Guild.[/QUOTE]

I'm the opposite. I thought Winterheart's Guild was a bit lame (aside from The Cage and Victoria's Secret...maybe Gravenimage if I'm in the right mood), and Reckoning Night to be their masterpiece.

Stoic 02-02-2007 06:58 AM

[QUOTE=Animosity]At Vance[/QUOTE]

Yes! They've covered Abba's Money Money :D

MetalOz 02-02-2007 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=Animosity;14124309]Can anyone say anything about these artists in the list?:

Heavenly
[/QUOTE]

They're quality power metal, I have Dust to Dust and Virus, both very good, sounding quite like Helloween on some songs...

Shattered_Future 02-02-2007 12:50 PM

I never liked Heavenly too much...I think they rip off Rhapsody a bit on quite a few of their songs.


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