you should suck it up and just do it. behave well, be polite etc.

and second on the why would she not like the girl?

tatoos piercings etc?

[QUOTE=Iscariot]Exactly.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

I'd like a sexual relationship, but I don't think it brings you closer if you're not already as close as can be.

And yes, I've been in the situation. It didn't bring us closer. It was just a fun thing to do when hormones kicked up, which isn't negative at all.

It just isn't the pot of gold relationship boost button that this particular person makes it out to be.

There is a true difference between having sex and making love.

[QUOTE=Tillius]There is a true difference between having sex and making love.[/QUOTE]

Doesn't matter. Hormones have to kick up to do either.

If you were aiming that at me.

I wasn't aiming that at anybody in particular.
And I disagree.

When two people just have sex, it's because their hormones are going crazy and this is something they want to do.

When two people make love, it is because they feel so deeply for eachother, which is why it's called making love. They love eachother so much, and they are wanting to take the relationship to the next level.

[QUOTE=Tillius]I wasn't aiming that at anybody in particular.
And I disagree.

When two people just have sex, it's because their hormones are going crazy and this is something they want to do.

When two people make love, it is because they feel so deeply for eachother, which is why it's called making love. They love eachother so much, and they are wanting to take the relationship to the next level.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Tillius]I wasn't aiming that at anybody in particular.
And I disagree.

When two people just have sex, it's because their hormones are going crazy and this is something they want to do.

When two people make love, it is because they feel so deeply for eachother, which is why it's called making love. They love eachother so much, and they are wanting to take the relationship to the next level.[/QUOTE]

ATTN: please tell me how much KY it takes to [I]make love[/I] to a girl whose hormones haven't kicked up.

And how many viagra for a guy.

I made love to my ex girlfriend quite a few times, but it didn't take it to a new level. That was the level that we were on (the I'd really like to live with you for longer than the week or so that we have lived together; one day I'd really like to marry you because you'd make a wonderful wife not to mention great friend; and god you'd make a beautiful mother level). And to be honest, we straight ****ed a few times, and I agree, there's a difference. However, it doesn't always take things higher.

eugh I hate talking about this

I have a small problem. My dad is not 100% on my boyfriend.
We (me and my b/f) are both 17 in July and have been together since we were 14. We are in love and have an amazing relationship.

The problem is my dad thinks my boyfriend is too quiet. He is a quiet person with people he's not good friends with but my dad is a very loud person and dosnt understand this. Deep down my dad really does likes him cause he is soo good to me and such a good influence (dont drink, dont do drugs, really sensible etc.) but my dad would just like to get to know him better.

When I talk to my boyfriend about this he just says 'but what would we talk about' (they have little in common). I would just like him to be a bit more confident infrount of him.

My boyfriend is coming to florida for two weeks with my family in the summer and my dad thinks its guna be awful. Any suggestions as to how I can get them closer?

[QUOTE=~Sophie~]I have a small problem. My dad is not 100% on my boyfriend.
We (me and my b/f) are both 17 in July and have been together since we were 14. We are in love and have an amazing relationship.

The problem is my dad thinks my boyfriend is too quiet. He is a quiet person with people he's not good friends with but my dad is a very loud person and dosnt understand this. Deep down my dad really does likes him cause he is soo good to me and such a good influence (dont drink, dont do drugs, really sensible etc.) but my dad would just like to get to know him better.

When I talk to my boyfriend about this he just says 'but what would we talk about' (they have little in common). I would just like him to be a bit more confident infrount of him.

My boyfriend is coming to florida for two weeks with my family in the summer and my dad thinks its guna be awful. Any suggestions as to how I can get them closer?[/QUOTE]

Play like monopoly or something, then they can get to talking like at first it would be like "Hey kid you owe me 50 bucks on park place" but then after about an hour "Did you see the game last night?"

[QUOTE=DrunksWithGuns]Play like monopoly or something, then they can get to talking like at first it would be like "Hey kid you owe me 50 bucks on park place" but then after about an hour "Did you see the game last night?"[/QUOTE]

Good idea, but the 'did you see the game' thing- thats the problem. Dads into sports and beer, boyfriends not!

[QUOTE=~Sophie~]Good idea, but the 'did you see the game' thing- thats the problem. Dads into sports and beer, boyfriends not![/QUOTE]
Political issues? School? Urrmm... I dunno. I'd suggest drunken karaoke but he doesn't drink :-/

this is a long confusing one:
So i met this girl a couple of months ago and like trough the first month everything was cool and it looked like we really had some chemestry and she was obv. feeling something for me and i was feeling something for her, we went out on dates, everynight she would text me telling me how much she likes me and stuff like that but there was a problem, she had a bf but they never talked and she never saw him and she told me that she wanted to brake up with him, so i was like ok, cool it doesnt matter that she has a bf.
Then i found out that theres this other guy who likes her a lot and like he goes to her house, picks her up from school, talks on the phone with her a lot, etc. I asked her 2 times what was going on with that guy and both times she told me he was only her friend and her friends also told me this, but from some of her actions i kinda think shes also interested in him, anyway.
A couple of weeks ago i satrted to notice something diferent with her attitude and i asked her what was wrong and she told me she broke up with her bf, who i thought she didnt feel anything for anymore, but she told me that she was sad and that she missed him, but i dont get it because she never saw/talked with him, after that we kept talking/seeing each other but it just wasnt the same so i asked her if she felt anything like when we first started talking and she told me that she wasnt sure that she needed sometime and stuff like that. Maybe shes telling the truth or maybe shes just letting me know in a not so in your face way that shes not interested anymore and that she likes that other guy :/
So, what do you think?

[QUOTE=Herbert_da_fish]Political issues? School? Urrmm... I dunno. I'd suggest drunken karaoke but he doesn't drink :-/[/QUOTE]
Hell no. The worst thing to talk about with people you don't really know that well is politics.

[quote=Sophie]I have a small problem. My dad is not 100% on my boyfriend.
We (me and my b/f) are both 17 in July and have been together since we were 14. We are in love and have an amazing relationship.

The problem is my dad thinks my boyfriend is too quiet. He is a quiet person with people he's not good friends with but my dad is a very loud person and dosnt understand this. Deep down my dad really does likes him cause he is soo good to me and such a good influence (dont drink, dont do drugs, really sensible etc.) but my dad would just like to get to know him better.

When I talk to my boyfriend about this he just says 'but what would we talk about' (they have little in common). I would just like him to be a bit more confident infrount of him.

My boyfriend is coming to florida for two weeks with my family in the summer and my dad thinks its guna be awful. Any suggestions as to how I can get them closer?[/quote]

I hate when kids say, "omg we're in love". I won't rant about that though.

Just leave your boyfriend and your dad in the same room together and let them figure it out. Your boyfriend needs to man up and make some concious effort to have a better relationship with your father. It's pretty much all on him, so he needs to get his game face on. He sounds socially lazy, and you need to get on top of that too and stress to him that it's important for him to get on with your father.

[quote=guitar p]this is a long confusing one:
So i met this girl a couple of months ago and like trough the first month everything was cool and it looked like we really had some chemestry and she was obv. feeling something for me and i was feeling something for her, we went out on dates, everynight she would text me telling me how much she likes me and stuff like that but there was a problem, she had a bf but they never talked and she never saw him and she told me that she wanted to brake up with him, so i was like ok, cool it doesnt matter that she has a bf.
Then i found out that theres this other guy who likes her a lot and like he goes to her house, picks her up from school, talks on the phone with her a lot, etc. I asked her 2 times what was going on with that guy and both times she told me he was only her friend and her friends also told me this, but from some of her actions i kinda think shes also interested in him, anyway.
A couple of weeks ago i satrted to notice something diferent with her attitude and i asked her what was wrong and she told me she broke up with her bf, who i thought she didnt feel anything for anymore, but she told me that she was sad and that she missed him, but i dont get it because she never saw/talked with him, after that we kept talking/seeing each other but it just wasnt the same so i asked her if she felt anything like when we first started talking and she told me that she wasnt sure that she needed sometime and stuff like that. Maybe shes telling the truth or maybe shes just letting me know in a not so in your face way that shes not interested anymore and that she likes that other guy :/
So, what do you think?[/quote]

Lust. Lust lust lust and a thousand times, lust. That's all this girl seems to run on from the way you've described her. She doesn't sound at all like the type of girl that commits. I have no problem being blunt about this because my ex is the exact same type of girl. The whole time her and I were together, I never knew if I was the only guy she was sleeping with. Girls like that are most often unknowingly overly flirtatious, and confronting them about it does nothing to improve the situation.

The golden rule is that you should never approach a relationship thinking that you can improve various aspects of the person you're interested in. If you can't handle them the way they are, then stay the hell away from them. Don't take the first thing that pops into your arms, because I can guarantee something better is waiting right around the corner.

Also, don't get involved with a girl that you know is with someone else. All you're doing is making yourself look needy and opening yourself up to be used.

[QUOTE=Iscariot]I hate when kids say, "omg we're in love". I won't rant about that though.

Just leave your boyfriend and your dad in the same room together and let them figure it out. Your boyfriend needs to man up and make some concious effort to have a better relationship with your father. It's pretty much all on him, so he needs to get his game face on. He sounds socially lazy, and you need to get on top of that too and stress to him that it's important for him to get on with your father.



Lust. Lust lust lust and a thousand times, lust. That's all this girl seems to run on from the way you've described her. She doesn't sound at all like the type of girl that commits. I have no problem being blunt about this because my ex is the exact same type of girl. The whole time her and I were together, I never knew if I was the only guy she was sleeping with. Girls like that are most often unknowingly overly flirtatious, and confronting them about it does nothing to improve the situation.

The golden rule is that you should never approach a relationship thinking that you can improve various aspects of the person you're interested in. If you can't handle them the way they are, then stay the hell away from them. Don't take the first thing that pops into your arms, because I can guarantee something better is waiting right around the corner.

Also, don't get involved with a girl that you know is with someone else. All you're doing is making yourself look needy and opening yourself up to be used.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but then he could have a bitter relationship, and write cool songs about it.

*And yeah, I'm one of the only few guys I know that don't say "I love you" at my school. A ton of the girls do, and it's really annoying.

[QUOTE=Iscariot]
Lust. Lust lust lust and a thousand times, lust. That's all this girl seems to run on from the way you've described her. She doesn't sound at all like the type of girl that commits. I have no problem being blunt about this because my ex is the exact same type of girl. The whole time her and I were together, I never knew if I was the only guy she was sleeping with. Girls like that are most often unknowingly overly flirtatious, and confronting them about it does nothing to improve the situation.

The golden rule is that you should never approach a relationship thinking that you can improve various aspects of the person you're interested in. If you can't handle them the way they are, then stay the hell away from them. Don't take the first thing that pops into your arms, because I can guarantee something better is waiting right around the corner.

Also, don't get involved with a girl that you know is with someone else. All you're doing is making yourself look needy and opening yourself up to be used.[/QUOTE]
Wow
i think you are 100% right
best advice i've gotten about this situation
thanks :)

[QUOTE=Hedgedive]*And yeah, I'm one of the only few guys I know that don't say "I love you" at my school. A ton of the girls do, and it's really annoying.[/QUOTE]

while everybody's on the subject - that's one thing my boyfriend and i haven't done. i've known my boyfriend well before we started dating and know that he doesn't throw around the words at all. we've been going out for ~8 months now and everything's been going somewhat perfect. no fights, no arguements, really only good things, so i'm wondering if he's being cautious or just isn't feeling it.

I also have no idea whether he said it to his girlfriend of 1.5 years. i know he cried when they broke up and took it decently hard, but they're still friends. (in fact, on her facebook the only picture she put up from prom was the single picture of her and him -_-)

[underlying, i guess i'm just afraid i'm that in-between-relationship from his ex-girlfriend and college (we haven't talked about whether we're staying together... but we're going to colleges within 10 miles of each other in Philadelphia this fall)]

Wow hes right.

[QUOTE=Iscariot]I hate when kids say, "omg we're in love". I won't rant about that though.

Just leave your boyfriend and your dad in the same room together and let them figure it out. Your boyfriend needs to man up and make some concious effort to have a better relationship with your father. It's pretty much all on him, so he needs to get his game face on. He sounds socially lazy, and you need to get on top of that too and stress to him that it's important for him to get on with your father.

[/QUOTE]

Or get him around when your dad is doing some heavy lifting.

Your dad will ask him to help, and he'll have to prove himself.

It's worked for me on a few occassions now. I mean my ex's pop caught me in the shower with her and didn't kill me so I assume I'm free to give some advice on buddying up with the dads.

[quote=Luster]while everybody's on the subject - that's one thing my boyfriend and i haven't done. i've known my boyfriend well before we started dating and know that he doesn't throw around the words at all. we've been going out for ~8 months now and everything's been going somewhat perfect. no fights, no arguements, really only good things, so i'm wondering if he's being cautious or just isn't feeling it.

I also have no idea whether he said it to his girlfriend of 1.5 years. i know he cried when they broke up and took it decently hard, but they're still friends. (in fact, on her facebook the only picture she put up from prom was the single picture of her and him -_-)

[underlying, i guess i'm just afraid i'm that in-between-relationship from his ex-girlfriend and college (we haven't talked about whether we're staying together... but we're going to colleges within 10 miles of each other in Philadelphia this fall)][/quote]
Hmm...this is tough. Do you think you love him? I assume you probably think you do. So I would say the answer is, as with most relationship problems, talk to him about how you feel. Maybe tell him that you re starting to have deeper feelings for him, possibly love. Then ask him how he feels about you. It will probably be difficult but the most important part of any relationship and keeping it together is to communicate.

[QUOTE=Iscariot]The golden rule is that you should never approach a relationship thinking that you can improve various aspects of the person you're interested in. If you can't handle them the way they are, then stay the hell away from them. Don't take the first thing that pops into your arms, because I can guarantee something better is waiting right around the corner.[/QUOTE]

Agreed many times over.

All right, so I like this girl and I told one of her friends and she talked to her about it and her friend said she would definately give me a try. I'm going to ask her tommorow and get her phone number and stuff. her friend said she likes to pick the place we go, so i'll let her do that. The only problem is that my friend was supposed to go on a date with this girl and they're friends and are supposed to hang out soon. But he told me that "he doubts any thing will happen with them because she doesn't like the same music and doesn't smoke weed". So how should I handle this situation/general tips

Let him go first. Get her phone number and all that stuff so you can start talking to her,but let your friend hang with her first and all that because he made the plans first. If nothing happens like he said it wouldnt, then you have the go ahead, and you didnt betray your friend. Also, when you get her number and start talking to her and all that stuff, she may end up liking you anyway and not him, and you have no control over that, so your friend should be understanding.

Ok, there's this girl, and a couple of my friends have hinted that me and her should maybe date, but here's the thing, I've dated her before once. It was really wierd. However, last time, the timing was extremely screwed up, for several reasons, such as:
-she still wasn't over her old boyfriend
-she just broke up with two guys before me, both being my friends
-i guess she had a crazy mood swing for most of the time we were dating.

Now, I'm just wondering if a couple of my friends have been telling me this because the girl told them she liked me again, or if they have just noticed something? I dunno, but I'm also wondering if I'm just getting myself into the same old situation, or if it may be a good move to try her again, because there are no conflicting emotions this time around. To be honest, yeah i still like her, and have for a long time.

Well has she had any relationships in the recent past? If so were they tragic or something that took her a while to get over?(i feel like i'm writing a survey)

If she's not getting over any relationships at the moment and she likes you, I would go for it.

[quote=guitar p]Wow
i think you are 100% right
best advice i've gotten about this situation
thanks :)[/quote]

Anytime.

[quote=Luster]while everybody's on the subject - that's one thing my boyfriend and i haven't done. i've known my boyfriend well before we started dating and know that he doesn't throw around the words at all. we've been going out for ~8 months now and everything's been going somewhat perfect. no fights, no arguements, really only good things, so i'm wondering if he's being cautious or just isn't feeling it.

I also have no idea whether he said it to his girlfriend of 1.5 years. i know he cried when they broke up and took it decently hard, but they're still friends. (in fact, on her facebook the only picture she put up from prom was the single picture of her and him -_-)

[underlying, i guess i'm just afraid i'm that in-between-relationship from his ex-girlfriend and college (we haven't talked about whether we're staying together... but we're going to colleges within 10 miles of each other in Philadelphia this fall)][/quote]

Some people think that a lack of aggression is the sign of a healthy relationship, when really, after about eight months together and no fighting, I can almost promise there are things he isn't telling you. He isn't being emotionally open with you and you should nip that in the bud. If you're unsure about the status of your relationship when college comes around, then you need to open that line of communication as well. Before you approach him, however, make sure that you know exactly where you stand. If you walk into that confrontation with any doubts about your own feelings, you're going to say something wrong and turn a small worry into a big fiasco. Sit down and think about where [b]you[/b] want the relationship to go and what [b]you[/b] to get out of the relationship before you worry about what [b]he[/b] wants. Never let yourself fall second in your own priorities simply to appease your significant other. If the relationship isn't going where you want it to go, make the adult decision and do what's best for both of you by ending it.

Also, if you do come to find that the relationship isn't what you really want in the long run, don't wait for college to end it for you. That's going to leave a bitter taste in both of your mouths and you'll regret it for a long, long time.

[quote=smart blockhead]All right, so I like this girl and I told one of her friends and she talked to her about it and her friend said she would definately give me a try. I'm going to ask her tommorow and get her phone number and stuff. her friend said she likes to pick the place we go, so i'll let her do that. The only problem is that my friend was supposed to go on a date with this girl and they're friends and are supposed to hang out soon. But he told me that "he doubts any thing will happen with them because she doesn't like the same music and doesn't smoke weed". So how should I handle this situation/general tips[/quote]

Do you have any sincere feelings for this girl? Even a little lust is at least something to get a start off of. Also, how well do you know the girl? If you two aren't at least good friends, I strongly advise against trying to get any kind of relationship off the ground. You should never date someone that you don't know as a friend. Some people say you should never date your best friend, but I think that's the smartest choice anyone can make. The better friends you are with someone, the better chance your relationship has of being a long-lasting deal.

If you don't know her as well as you know that you should, I recommend avoiding the dating game for now. Just spend time with her as friends and get to know her better. Find out if this is really someone you want to be with. As it is, her response of 'giving you a try' doesn't sound very promising. It sounds as if she's very unsure of you, so I would just take it very slow for now.

[quote=King]Ok, there's this girl, and a couple of my friends have hinted that me and her should maybe date, but here's the thing, I've dated her before once. It was really wierd. However, last time, the timing was extremely screwed up, for several reasons, such as:
-she still wasn't over her old boyfriend
-she just broke up with two guys before me, both being my friends
-i guess she had a crazy mood swing for most of the time we were dating.

Now, I'm just wondering if a couple of my friends have been telling me this because the girl told them she liked me again, or if they have just noticed something? I dunno, but I'm also wondering if I'm just getting myself into the same old situation, or if it may be a good move to try her again, because there are no conflicting emotions this time around. To be honest, yeah i still like her, and have for a long time.[/quote]

Never go back for seconds. If it didn't work the first time around, there was a lesson to be learned, and you, my friend, obviously didn't learn it. Re-examine your past situation and understand the real reason why things didn't work out before you walk into another dead-end relationship.

I really, really fancy this girl, but she's with this jerk-*** boyfriend who won't even let her be friends with me. She's 18, i'm 20, she's sexually experienced, I'm not, and she's dated older guys in the past.

Question: how do i make her ditch the bf and how do i make her see how i feel?

You don't. I doubt you'd like it if you were in a relationship and some jerk broke the entire thing up.

[QUOTE=SubtleDagger]You don't. I doubt you'd like it if you were in a relationship and some jerk broke the entire thing up.[/QUOTE]

it's happened.

everybody seems entitled to do it so why shouldn't i?

Who exactly is everybody?