your face mappy

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15620047]Metalcore is an extremely broad term though.

Hardcore encompasses a wide variety of music and metal encompasses a wide variety of music, BTBAM doesn't step outside those two styles, except some clean passages.[/QUOTE]

uh dude they have a ****ing banjo and ****ing keyboards and ****ing 14 minute songs that's not very ****ing metalcore, is it?

[quote=masscows;15620038]
explain your position BRA[/quote]

I just did. My statement explains it all. My opinion and the reasoning behind it.

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15620053]I just did. My statement explains it all. My opinion and the reasoning behind it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]The correct question would be, "what classifies BTBAM as music?".[/QUOTE]

That's a question not a statement. There's no valid argument made. Furthermore, you actually post a question rather than determining a conclusion.

SO like no

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15620050]uh dude they have a ****ing banjo and ****ing keyboards and ****ing 14 minute songs that's not very ****ing metalcore, is it?[/QUOTE]
Hahaha. **** the new album. It's like, this song's like a watered down version of their old stuff, but I really don't mind it... oh, that part was so gay and pointless, what the hell.

It really pisses me off how kids think that it's some sort of masterpiece of modern music that blows everything out of the water.

i really like the new album even if the best parts are just the best parts from old songs with more dweedly.

and yeah the OMG WE'RE ****ING IRONIC parts are stupid.

[quote=Cocaine;15620059]That's a question not a statement. There's no valid argument made. Furthermore, you actually post a question rather than determining a conclusion.

SO like no[/quote]

One can assume that since I would ask that question, my opinion would be that they suck. The question also explains the reasoning behind that, in that I think the songwriting and overall sound is so crappy that it's an insult to call it music.

So, in essence, I DID explain it all with my rhetorical question.

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15620082]One can assume that since I would ask that question, my opinion would be that they suck. The question also explains the reasoning behind that, in that I think the songwriting and overall sound is so crappy that it's an insult to call it music.

So, in essence, I DID explain it all with my rhetorical question.[/QUOTE]

Would ask the question? I thought you did.

And you just said songwriting. Songwriting implies the writing of songs. Songs imply pertinence to music.

That post was an explanation, your previous rhetoric was not.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15620080]i really like the new album even if the best parts are just the best parts from old songs with more dweedly.

and yeah the OMG WE'RE ****ING IRONIC parts are stupid.[/QUOTE]

The ironic parts make me not respect it all.

It's all just like, "KIDS WILL THINK WE'RE SO VARIED AND UNIQUE"

But maybe it's because of how much I've heard my friends talk about that irl that's made me hate it.

One can only assume that the album was an attempt at unbridled eloquence, crippled by a misunderstanding of what true intellectual writing may be.

I might be talking about two things with that sentence.

Those parts just prove the rumours that they're all total wieners. You can just picture them giggling and snorting after writing them.

Pretty much. :lol:

[quote=Cocaine;15620086]Would ask the question? I thought you did.

And you just said songwriting. Songwriting implies the writing of songs. Songs imply pertinence to music.

That post was an explanation, your previous rhetoric was not.[/quote]

Songwriting is what makes up music.


I'm done arguing.

Don't you like As Blood Runs Black?

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15620109]Don't you like As Blood Runs Black?[/QUOTE]

I was thinking the same thing :chug:

THIS RIFF IS SWEET MELODIC STUFF

Uhh dude, what next?

Uhhh.... breakdown?

YEAH SICK BREAKDOWN GO!

[QUOTE=Invicta_Veritas;15620102]Songwriting is what makes up music.


I'm done arguing.[/QUOTE]

You're done because you have no point to argue. You say they're bad at songwriting, not that they arent writing songs. Then you proved your own fallacy by saying "songwriting is what makes up music," therefore they write songs you claim to be bad, but since they are in fact a result of songwriting (ie: they are written songs) you cannot therefore justify saying that they do not play music.

[QUOTE=Cocaine;15620131]You're done because you have no point to argue. You say they're bad at songwriting, not that they arent writing songs. Then you proved your own fallacy by saying "songwriting is what makes up music," therefore they write songs you claim to be bad, but since they are in fact a result of songwriting (ie: they are written songs) you cannot therefore justify saying that they do not play music.[/QUOTE]

I know that his argument was pretty easy to dissect and shoot down, but you're really good at arguing in general and should be a lawyer.

I'm just practicing for when I'm inevitably sued for libel or defamation.

[quote=Cocaine;15620131]You're done because you have no point to argue. You say they're bad at songwriting, not that they arent writing songs. Then you proved your own fallacy by saying "songwriting is what makes up music," therefore they write songs you claim to be bad, but since they are in fact a result of songwriting (ie: they are written songs) you cannot therefore justify saying that they do not play music.[/quote]

You're too busy dissecting my arguement to be a dick that you're missing my general point.

I was attempting to be concise and a bit tongue in cheek, but instead you all start bitching because I'm attacking something, forcing me to explain everything in technical detail, thus taking all the fun out of my initial comment. Jesus Christ.

I think they suck, I don't like the songs, or thier structuring, or the music in general. Get over it.

You take things way too seriously and personally .

Anyway guys, I like the [B]guitar tone[/B] on Dead Man In Reno's self-titled.

[quote=Cocaine;15620187]You take things way too seriously and personally .[/quote]

You're the one that took me way too seriously with this one. I'm being a dick in the other thread, but this one here wasn't meant to be a serious debate, haha.


Mappy, I'll kill you.

Honestly im just playing around. It's my way of studying for my critical thinking exam.

I am really being a dick in the other thread though. It's something I feel very strongly about.

You are a dick everywhere.

I liked some songs of TBDM that i listened today, I feel so dirty :(

That's because TBDM is amazing brah.

I guess i'll download an album.

[quote=Txus;15620570]You are a dick everywhere.

I liked some songs of TBDM that i listened today, I feel so dirty :([/quote]

No I'm not.


And TBDM is truly great.

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15618656]There's tons of kids who consider bands like Through The Eyes Of The Dead and All Shall Perish metalcore too...[/QUOTE]

I'm not one of them though.

*edit*

But they are mostly considered deathcore, just like the acacia strain are mostly considered metalcore.

The Acacia Strain are horrible :(

I've been listening to a lot of Skycamefalling today, great driving music.