Its like, if i took a sledgehammer to a thick slab of concrete and a thin sheet of rubber.

Which would break?

rubber? well....

the concrete would chip and crumble thats for sure :P

Is the bottom hat of the sabian aax stage hats crimpled up? I havent been able to try out/see a lot of cymbals, i just tried my friends zildjian avedis hats that had the crimp in the bottom hats and they sound amazing, bright and sizzly, but i like sabian and i wanted to find a hat that has that sound in a sabian name.

Nope.



Those Zildjians are A Custom Mastersounds, probably.

You can get Avedis mastersounds too.

I think AAXcellerators have the crimp.

Yeah, Xcellerators have the crimp along with something else, i forget what though.

The AAxcellerators have the crimp, and I think the fast hats have the holes in the bottom hat.

[QUOTE=fishbulb;14795505]Yeah, Xcellerators have the crimp along with something else, i forget what though.[/QUOTE]

Paiste Sound Edges.

No, i was talking Sabian.

Also zildjian mastersounds if you want to get into it.

i think those are the only things in Sabian with the ripple bottoms.

well there are AAX and HHX, if that is what you mean.

A custom mastersounds are amazing. Search through the forums for a review of them, I posted one a while back :)

now that the HHX-cellerators are out (well, news to me) i'm gonna have to track down a pair and give em a shot.

I fell in love with HH bright hats...they're just so incredible sounding! I still can't get over how much I love them. Now all I need is like 300 dollars...

Anyone have experience with an HH medium ride?

I've used the K A and A Custom MAstersouds, the sound edges too! They're a lovely!!!


-Ant-

Hay Gice

Anyone got any thoughts on the Stagg Black Metal 18" Crash, or any of the Black Metal Crashes?

Trashy china, good for punk and metal. Cheers guys

Check out an 18" Zildjian Oriental China Trash. Great china.

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14812131]Check out an 18" Zildjian Oriental China Trash. Great china.[/QUOTE]

QFT


-Ant-

My cymbal setup is as follows:

Zildjian 13" K hats
Zildjian 16" A crash
Zildjian 20" K ride
Turkish 22" Classic Jazz ride

It's a lovely combo at present, but I want to expand. I'm primarily searching for something of a bridge between the brighter A and the darker K/jazz sounds, though I love quirky cymbals that might seem out of place but end up working well... any ideas?

I feel like another, bigger crash (17-19") would make a good addition, but my concern is that the rides are quite dominating as it is. As such, I would also appreciate advice with regards to using a smaller crash (around 14-15") as well as any input into which may work better.

[QUOTE=Davio El Dwarfo;14813314]My cymbal setup is as follows:

Zildjian 13" K hats
Zildjian 16" A crash
Zildjian 20" K ride
Turkish 22" Classic Jazz ride

It's a lovely combo at present, but I want to expand. I'm primarily searching for something of a bridge between the brighter A and the darker K/jazz sounds, though I love quirky cymbals that might seem out of place but end up working well... any ideas?

I feel like another, bigger crash (17-19") would make a good addition, but my concern is that the rides are quite dominating as it is. As such, I would also appreciate advice with regards to using a smaller crash (around 14-15") as well as any input into which may work better.[/QUOTE]

k custom dark china 17 inch.

You might like an A fast Crash?
14 or 15.
Those Azuka Hand and Stick's are 15, it's pretty bright, maybe too bright.

[QUOTE=Tim;14813397]k custom dark china 17 inch.[/QUOTE]

I'm apprehensive about buying chinas. Don't they break fairly easily?

Not that it doesn't look like EXACTLY what I'm after. I've never broken/cracked a cymbal before, but it remains a concern as I slice fairly hard at times.

No more than other cymbals.

[QUOTE=Davio El Dwarfo;14813896]I'm apprehensive about buying chinas. Don't they break fairly easily?

Not that it doesn't look like EXACTLY what I'm after. I've never broken/cracked a cymbal before, but it remains a concern as I slice fairly hard at times.[/QUOTE]

If you put them upside down they're a lot easier to hit IMO and so less likely to break. But yeah, what phil said. Also, it depends a lot on the specific cymbal, how you hit them, etc.

A good bigger crash might be a 19" A as the larger sizes are darker... or perhaps a K dark crash medium thin, I love those cymbals though i think they only go up to 18" but you can check that.

im looking for a great 18-20 inch ride cymbal thats around 200 bucks. any suggestions?

[QUOTE=byrkee;14822677]im looking for a great 18-20 inch ride cymbal thats around 200 bucks. any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

Erm anything more specific? What sort of sound: bands/drummers you think have a good ride cymbal? Wet (i.e. lots of wash compared to stick definition) or dry (the opposite)? Bright (lots of high end frequencies) or dark/warm (more mids and lows)? What sort of music do you play?

etc

Then I will do my best to help :thumb:

well i like radioheads ride cymbal, thats all i can think of right now, but im into music from like glassjaw, the receiving end of sirens, to like muse and radiohead, stuff like that. i dont want anything real old, and i want it to have a light pretty sound, but also something i can hit hard and can sound loud and rock when it needs too. that help?

Hmm, not really, :lol:. I know something that fits that light sound be projecting when layed into, but it's about twice the amount you want to pay; 24" K Light Ride is amazing!

get two rides?


-Ant-

[QUOTE=byrkee;14825563]well i like radioheads ride cymbal, thats all i can think of right now, but im into music from like glassjaw, the receiving end of sirens, to like muse and radiohead, stuff like that. i dont want anything real old, and i want it to have a light pretty sound, but also something i can hit hard and can sound loud and rock when it needs too. that help?[/QUOTE]

hmm.. anything medium weighted would be ideal...and a decent bell.

Hand Hammered Classic ride. give that a shot.