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Phallus Dei 01-14-2006 02:46 AM

NEWS FLASH:

Beatles suck! Jesus is way more popular then the Beatles!

(I don't like this band cover subject as I have nothing to say about it.)

El_Goodo 01-14-2006 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=Phallus Dei]NEWS FLASH:

Beatles suck! Jesus is way more popular then the Beatles!

(I don't like this band cover subject as I have nothing to say about it.)[/QUOTE]

Has Jesus sold over 1 Billion records worldwide!

TheDMV 01-14-2006 12:18 PM

[QUOTE=HighVoltageRockNRoll]Has Jesus sold over 1 Billion records worldwide![/QUOTE]

Is that a question? :lol:

[QUOTE=Med57]/has never seen any Beatles tribute bands. I've never got the big deal with tribute bands of any description though, really. I see what they're trying to do, but I wouldn't ever pay money to see one.[/QUOTE]

Generally they don't cost much money so the cool thing is you get see someone play Beatle's songs live. I'll take Beatles music in any form I can.

MBS 01-14-2006 12:20 PM

[QUOTE]Has Jesus sold over 1 Billion records worldwide![/QUOTE]

He probably has more followers than the Beatles anyway.

Seafroggys 01-14-2006 12:21 PM

[QUOTE=Phallus Dei]NEWS FLASH:

Beatles suck! Jesus is way more popular then the Beatles!

(I don't like this band cover subject as I have nothing to say about it.)[/QUOTE]

well seeing as Cream sold more records in 24 months than the bible sold in 24 years, and that the Beatles are way bigger than Cream, I think statistics has to disagree ;)

Carne Evil 01-14-2006 01:31 PM

I think I'll start the First Church of The Beatles. Lennon rules over this world with the help of his archangles Paul, George, and Ringo. If you lead an ungrovy life, you will be sent to the hellfire where Pete Best rules and plots ways to make money off of being the only ex-Beatle.

Phallus Dei 01-14-2006 01:35 PM

I think Yoko would be more appropriate for being the one who plots ways to make money off of John's career. Like her great solo career she had...

Carne Evil 01-14-2006 01:43 PM

^^^ very true. But I still think it's underhanded the way Pete Best tries to capitalize for having almost been famous. Maybe Yoko can be apple of knowledge that caused mankind to suffer

Magical_Mystery_Tour 01-14-2006 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Carne Evil]I think I'll start the First Church of The Beatles. Lennon rules over this world with the help of his archangles Paul, George, and Ringo. If you lead an ungrovy life, you will be sent to the hellfire where Pete Best rules and plots ways to make money off of being the only ex-Beatle.[/QUOTE]

:lol: Thats a great idea.

bcf717 01-14-2006 03:32 PM

Personally, I almost feel sorry for Pete Best. I mean, can you imagine sitting home during the sixties watching Beatlemania unfold, stewing over what couldda, shouldda been? Knowing it wouldda been you if you weren't such a loner.... If only you had sat down and ate cornflakes with the boys.... If only you had 'played nice, nice' with the other 'children.'......Damn.

So, there is something important to personality dynamics when joining a band. There is definitely a lesson to learned here..... :)

rockinbass17 01-14-2006 08:34 PM

I feel even worse for Stu Stucliff. I mean, being dead and all.

Magical_Mystery_Tour 01-14-2006 08:48 PM

[QUOTE=rockinbass17]I feel even worse for Stu Stucliff. I mean, being dead and all.[/QUOTE]

Ya, but he dosen't have to live everyday filled with regret and what could have been thoughts.

blue3 01-14-2006 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=leppermessiah]Why didn't you say that when I asked how Paul was scary?! That explains it completely![/QUOTE]Haha.. Well it didn't bother me, since I'm not a guy.

And yeah, it sucks for Pete Best.

DeusExMachina 01-14-2006 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=Seafroggys]well seeing as Cream sold more records in 24 months than the bible sold in 24 years, and that the Beatles are way bigger than Cream, I think statistics has to disagree ;)[/QUOTE]
That's because everyone already owns the bible. The bible is the best selling book of all time. So, if we want to look at a time frame argument, I'd say the bible is more popular. Statistically.

/is feeling argumentative.

Seafroggys 01-14-2006 09:23 PM

welll.....bleh to you too

actually, about Pete Best, he wasn't a loner, in fact he was the sex symbol of the Beatles. many people were PISSED that they axed him, and it took people in Britain a long time (well after they were famous) to accept Ringo.

TheDMV 01-14-2006 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=rockinbass17]I feel even worse for Stu Stucliff. I mean, being dead and all.[/QUOTE]

Was Stu a nickname? Kind of like Mitch Mitchell?

DeusExMachina 01-14-2006 09:49 PM

No, his last name is sutcliffe, not stucliffe. Although it might still be a nickname, not sure.

Seafroggys, sorry, I was just messing around.

But yeah, lots of people were pissed Pete Best left. Like in that Simpsons parody.

TheDMV 01-14-2006 10:05 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]No, his last name is sutcliffe, not stucliffe. Although it might still be a nickname, not sure.

Seafroggys, sorry, I was just messing around.

But yeah, lots of people were pissed Pete Best left. Like in that Simpsons parody.[/QUOTE]

Oh, that's what I originally thought.

What did Best play? Did he have a solo career?

/asks more questions

Phallus Dei 01-14-2006 10:14 PM

He played drums but wasn't much of a drummer if I remember correctly. Or nothing wamzing

Led-ZeppelinII 01-14-2006 10:23 PM

[QUOTE=bcf717]So, there is something important to personality dynamics when joining a band. There is definitely a lesson to learned here..... :)[/QUOTE]
Oh, definately. Being in a band is all about collaboration, compromise, and just generally being open. Having the musical skills of any of the Beatles probably wouldn't have amounted to sh[size=2]i[/size]t if they didn't know how to work with each other.

rockinbass17 01-14-2006 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=Phallus Dei]He played drums but wasn't much of a drummer if I remember correctly. Or nothing wamzing[/QUOTE]

He was alright. I have a vinyl of The Beatles with Tony Sheridan, an incredibly early album, and the drumming isn't bad. Sure, it's not great, but he didn't suck.

bcf717 01-15-2006 07:23 PM

Pete didn't 'suck' at drumming, but as George Martin pointed out, he was too one dimensional. He was more of a four beat drummer and had trouble working with more complex timings. In song covers like 'Anna' and 'Chains' he tended to still give the 'bam bam bam bam' treatment. Ringo had more finesse and worked well with the bounce that became the template for the 'Mersey Sound.'

Pete was a loner in the sense he didn't hang with the others for the all night carousing and bar hopping that happened after the shows. That type of hanging around was very important in maintaining your clique, especially for teenage boys -- which they were. Pete wasn't 'tight' with John and Paul in that sense and didn't try to get tighter while in the band. George wasn't 'tight' to begin with, but worked to 'tighten' his standings and it payed off handsomely. Yes, Pete was a chick magnet and the others showed jealousy which finally brought on the ax...... however, had he been part of the clique from the git-go,... perhaps that jealousy would have been overlooked (as it was between John and Paul through the years).

Leper 01-16-2006 01:37 AM

Yeah I feel sorry for Pete Best too. You can't really blame the Beatles for going along with Martin and replacing him, but If I was him I would've felt very betrayed.

It'd be funny if the Simpsons parody was 100% accurate and the Beatles' first meeting with Ringo was him on the floor of a bathroom stall looking for a toothpick. I could see Ringo doing that. :lol:

Seafroggys 01-16-2006 02:08 AM

has anyone seen Caveman? I really want to see that movie

blue3 01-16-2006 02:19 AM

I've never seen it. I want to though but I can't find it anywhere.

MidnightRider 01-16-2006 02:22 AM

Just thinking about how Pete Best must feel now makes me sick. There's nothing worse than being left out of something big.

NP: Norwegian Wood

bcf717 01-16-2006 09:18 PM

There's two ways you can handle a situation like Pete's..... 1 - Carry on, find a new band and continue the pursuit of stardom, or 2 - Feel sorry for yourself and wallow in self pity, allowing the feelings to fester, making it easy to concede self defeat. Pete joined other bands after his release, but I think he lacked that 'drive' needed to go on to the top. After the Beatles got famous without him, many Brit bands made it big. The Beatles stardom actually made other Brit bands very desirable to record companies. The Stones, Kinks and even Gerry and the Pacemakers got signed, as after the Beatles proved that Brits could rock, the demand for more British bands escalated. So the opportunity was there.

John, Paul and George lived, ate, and breathed for the band. Their combination was the magic that started it all. However, if one of them had been axed before stardom, I'm sure the drive they had would have insured them stardom in another band one way or another.

Leper 01-17-2006 12:10 AM

Apparently the Beatles almost broke up after they got back from their first stint in Germany. They talk about it in the Anthology book. As I recall they weren't even in contact for a couple weeks after they got back home.

clown_phobia 01-17-2006 06:23 AM

[QUOTE=TheDMV]Was Stu a nickname? Kind of like Mitch Mitchell?[/QUOTE]

His first name was Stuart

DeusExMachina 01-17-2006 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=MidnightRider]Just thinking about how Pete Best must feel now makes me sick. There's nothing worse than being left out of something big.

NP: Norwegian Wood[/QUOTE]
Yeah. That would be terrible. I also feel bad for Sutcliffe, on account of the whole dying thing.


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