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classicrockman 09-21-2005 07:04 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Awesome movie. Pretty freaky, but the whole thing is just awesome. There's a flea market like 5 minutes away from me, I wonder if they have some Floyd bootlegs like the one Livewired got. I'll have to check it out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I really love the movie.

I love the way Roger and David made the lyrics match the complete storyline. "Comfatably Numb" and "Hey You" are prime examples. Although my favorite song of 'The Wall' might be "Nobody Home" or "In the Flesh?"

robo2448 09-21-2005 07:22 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]Yeah I really love the movie.

I love the way Roger and David made the lyrics match the complete storyline. "Comfatably Numb" and "Hey You" are prime examples. Although my favorite song of 'The Wall' might be "Nobody Home" or "In the Flesh?"[/QUOTE]

Hey You wasn't in the movie. I guess you're talking about the separate video for it though, which was awesom. Would have been cooler if it was in the actual movie though. Highlights of the movie for me were Mother, One of My Turns, Is There Anybody Out There, and Comfortably Numb. The lyrics just match the scene so perfectly in those parts.

Also, the part where the teacher reads the lyrics of Money is awesome.

Riva 09-21-2005 08:24 PM

The best part is the animation for Goodbye Blue Sky and the whole In The Flesh/Run Like Hell/Waiting For The Worms/The Trial sequence.

Cal_on_drums 09-22-2005 11:21 AM

Recently my girlfriend got me into Pink Floyd and they are amazing! So diverse and creative.
I recently got DSotM which is just incredible and bought The Wall earlier on today for £10 and so far so good!

Sam 09-22-2005 12:55 PM

I'm actually not a huge fan of the Wall (the movie). It's cool and all, but it drags at times.

Live at Pompeii is the **** though.

Broken Arrow 09-22-2005 01:48 PM

I have the same favourite part as Riva.

temporary 09-22-2005 01:48 PM

[QUOTE=Cal_on_drums]Recently my girlfriend got me into Pink Floyd and they are amazing! So diverse and creative.
I recently got DSotM which is just incredible and bought The Wall earlier on today for £10 and so far so good![/QUOTE]

Good to see another Floyd fan. I'd check out Animals or Wish You Were Here next.

Cal_on_drums 09-22-2005 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=Obi One Kenodi]Good to see another Floyd fan. I'd check out Animals or Wish You Were Here next.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Wish You Were Here is definitly the one I'm getting next. All the songs are classic and the title track reminds me of my girlfriend. :cool:

Whale and Wasp 09-22-2005 02:19 PM

i love wish you were here album, but soycd and welcome to the machine give me bad memories :upset: i hope i can change that

standard 09-22-2005 02:30 PM

[QUOTE=Cal_on_drums]Yeah Wish You Were Here is definitly the one I'm getting next. All the songs are classic and the title track reminds me of my girlfriend. :cool:[/QUOTE]


Only bad thing of relating music to someone, is when you break up with them, or go through a rough time, you will hate the music.

We all fall victim to this though..

Whale and Wasp 09-22-2005 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=standard]Only bad thing of relating music to someone, is when you break up with them, or go through a rough time, you will hate the music.

We all fall victim to this though..[/QUOTE]
yes that was what happened to me too (except it wasnt a relationship) with soycd and welcome to the machine. theyre good songs but they give me bad memories

EDIT: :eek: :eek: im listening to careful with that axe eugene


is that a person screaming????

Distant Echoes 09-22-2005 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]EDIT: :eek: :eek: im listening to careful with that axe eugene


is that a person screaming????[/QUOTE]

Yup. Isnt it great.

Wish you were here is near my favorite album, but i still dont think anything could touch the perfection of dsotm. Oh god im a fanboy again...

Whale and Wasp 09-22-2005 02:40 PM

[QUOTE=Distant Echoes]Yup. Isnt it great.

Wish you were here is near my favorite album, but i still dont think anything could touch the perfection of dsotm. Oh god im a fanboy again...[/QUOTE]
wow that is creepy!!!


i atually dont think dsotm is their best. i like meddle and patgod better.

DeusExMachina 09-22-2005 02:48 PM

Meddle is great music, but I don't think it has the flow or impact th at DSOTM has.

clairvoyant 09-22-2005 02:52 PM

I like Wish You Were Here and Animals the most. Dark Side of the Moon is pretty overrated in my opinion.

robo2448 09-22-2005 03:03 PM

WYWH > Animals = Pulse. That's my top 3, and I don't really feel like listing more because then the choices get harder.

Collis 09-22-2005 03:26 PM

What about Relics? some really great stuff on this album (Im listening to it now actually ...), a lot of ther stuff was not written by Syd but the music does have a big pyschedelic feel to it ....

Distant Echoes 09-22-2005 03:32 PM

Relics is sort of a greatest hits of syd, and a few extra unreleased tracks. Its full of good songs, but Id rather listen to PATGOD, though Relics is easier on the ear imo.

I feel like Meddle is just some acoustic/folk ballads (i dont know what you all consider them) featuring One of these days and Echoes. I like the songs, but Looking at it like that tends to drive me away from listening to it more often.

robo2448 09-22-2005 03:34 PM

The songs on Relics are great. But because it's kind of a compilation, it doesn't flow like most Floyd albums do.

moaner 09-22-2005 03:37 PM

I've never seen the wall film, but i'm not a big fan of the album so i doubt it'd like it.

Shazzam 09-22-2005 04:01 PM

[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]yes that was what happened to me too (except it wasnt a relationship) with soycd and welcome to the machine. theyre good songs but they give me bad memories

EDIT: :eek: :eek: im listening to careful with that axe eugene


is that a person screaming????[/QUOTE]


Yeah Roger almost does sort of a black metal-esque scream in that song.

BigTrav415 09-22-2005 05:58 PM

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Meddle is great music, but I don't think it has the flow or impact th at DSOTM has.[/QUOTE]
TO be honest, I've thought about it a lot, you know, the music industry of the early 1970s, how Meddle sounds, etc., and I've come to this conclusion:

I can't believe that album didn't make a HUGE impact.

Think about it. 1970-71, the music industry was at a stand-still. The world was left shocked and appalled at the breakup of the Beatles. There were no amazing albums coming out at that time. No new ground had been broken. Everyone was just... waiting, waiting to see where the industry was going.

Now think about Meddle. Released in 1971 by a moderately popular British rock band (that right there should have been enough).

Now think about the track-list.

One of These Days - An amazingly hard-rocking song that was incredibly heavy for its time. I'm not sure If there was ANYTHING like that song at the time. Black Sabbath maybe... but please. One of These Days should have attracted the youth looking for a hard sound.

A Pillow of Winds - A beautiful, soft, acoustic song, with romantic lyrics and a flowing voice from Gilmour. This seems like the kind fo song that would attract all of the romanticising girls of the time, looking for a new crooner.

Fearless - Simply a great song. This would attracta WHOLE lot of people.

San Tropez - One word. Beatles. In light of their breakup, fans were looking for a band to fill the void. Listen to the song; you can only agree that it's an incredibly Beatles-esque song. Why wasn't this song all over the radio?

Seamus - This would attract... someone I'm sure.

Echoes - The trippers. Anyone that loved a trippy song would love Echoes. That song is the epitome of long, trippy jam song. Really, you can practically smell the weed coming out of the stoner's mouth while toking to Gilmour's monotone lyrics.


I Just.
Don't.
Get.
It.

Riva 09-22-2005 05:59 PM

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Yeah Roger almost does sort of a black metal-esque scream in that song.[/QUOTE]

Probably the first time he used his falsetto. :p

Lunch 09-22-2005 06:05 PM

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]Think about it. 1970-71, the music industry was at a stand-still. The world was left shocked and appalled at the breakup of the Beatles. There were no amazing albums coming out at that time. No new ground had been broken. Everyone was just... waiting, waiting to see where the industry was going[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? 70-71 was the rise of prog, not to mention harder rock than there ever had been, and even the beginnings of metal (amongst other great albums coming out). The Who released Live at Leeds and Who's Next, Zeppelin put out III abd IV, ELP formed, the Allmans released Live at the Fillmore, the Dead put out Workingman's Dead, American Beauty, and Skull and Roses. Jethro Tull released Benefit and Aqualung, the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970 was absolutely mindblowing, Yes released the Yes Album and Fragile, Traffic put out their two most advanced records to date, etc. Ground was being broken everywhere you looked.

Naturally the Beatles' break-up was a huge hit on the industry, but real rock fans knew what was going on and knew the importance of the records in these years. Maybe rock fell away from the mainstream but it certainly didn't slow down.

BigTrav415 09-22-2005 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=Lunch]Are you serious? 70-71 was the rise of prog, not to mention harder rock than there ever had been, and even the beginnings of metal (amongst other great albums coming out). The Who released Live at Leeds and Who's Next, Zeppelin put out III abd IV, ELP formed, the Allmans released Live at the Fillmore, the Dead put out Workingman's Dead, American Beauty, and Skull and Roses. Jethro Tull released Benefit and Aqualung, the Isle of Wight Festival in 1970 was absolutely mindblowing, Yes released the Yes Album and Fragile, Traffic put out their two most advanced records to date, etc. Ground was being broken everywhere you looked.

Naturally the Beatles' break-up was a huge hit on the industry, but real rock fans knew what was going on and knew the importance of the records in these years. Maybe rock fell away from the mainstream but it certainly didn't slow down.[/QUOTE]
OK, I guess I was wrong :upset:
My dad was actually telling about that era himself, and he was 15-16 then. So I took his info as true. But w/e.

Whale and Wasp 09-22-2005 06:22 PM

[QUOTE=Shazzam]Yeah Roger almost does sort of a black metal-esque scream in that song.[/QUOTE]
:amaze: wow thats roger....? :lol:

Thor 09-22-2005 07:09 PM

[QUOTE=Whale and Wasp]:amaze: wow thats roger....? :lol:[/QUOTE]
I thought the same thing, I had no idea Waters could sound like that.

NP - Pink Floyd - Hey You

classicrockman 09-22-2005 07:17 PM

Can you guys help me out with something here?

I'm a fan of Floyd (but not a huge one) and my friend's a bigger fan of Floyd. He said that Syd Barrett is alive...I was always under the impression that he was dead. He said that he was living in England with his mom. I don't really listen to much music before DSOTM so I took his word for it.

Is Syd Barrett dead?

clairvoyant 09-22-2005 07:21 PM

As far as I know Syd Barrett is still alive.

WetNoodle 09-22-2005 07:24 PM

I THINK he's still alive.

I had some photos of him that were around 2000-2002 so i guess he's still around.

They were depressing to look at :(

Skyler 09-22-2005 07:25 PM

Yeah, he is still alive. Nick Mason says in [u]Inside Out[/u] that he is living somewhere in Cambridge.

robo2448 09-22-2005 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=clairvoyant]As far as I know Syd Barrett is still alive.[/QUOTE]

He is. He lives in England with somebody who looks after him. He's still completely insane, it would have nice if he got a little better, but apparently his condition is still just about the same as it was 35 years ago.

Edit- beat :upset:

classicrockman 09-22-2005 07:26 PM

Hmmm....

I always thought he overdosed or something. So was he kicked out to bring in David?

Skyler 09-22-2005 07:28 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]Hmmm....

I always thought he overdosed or something. So was he kicked out to bring in David?[/QUOTE]

His drug abuse got out of hand, and regularly didn't attend shows, so they got Gilmore to fill in for him. Eventually they just dropped Syd and brought Gilmore in full time.

robo2448 09-22-2005 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=classicrockman]Hmmm....

I always thought he overdosed or something. So was he kicked out to bring in David?[/QUOTE]

He went insane from acid. Powerful stuff. Somewhat similar to Brian Wilson, but a much worse condition. When Pink Floyd was performing, he'd just sit there and stare into space, and so they brought Gilmour in, who was a friend of Syd, to cover for Syd during live shows. As his condition got worse, they permanently replaced him with Dave.

Edit- Beat again :angry:

This is embarrassing. I should just give up with answering questions.

Skyler 09-22-2005 07:34 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]Edit- Beat again :angry:

This is embarrassing. I should just give up with answering questions.[/QUOTE]

:lol: You seem pretty knowledgeable. Have you read Inside Out?

robo2448 09-22-2005 07:50 PM

[QUOTE=Skyler]:lol: You seem pretty knowledgeable. Have you read Inside Out?[/QUOTE]

No. I've just hung around in this thread for 6 months ;)

Which is better, Inside Out or A Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Oddessy? I'm really want to get one of them, but I'm not sure which to get.

magicbus 09-22-2005 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=robo2448]No. I've just hung around in this thread for 6 months ;)

Which is better, Inside Out or A Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Oddessy? I'm really want to get one of them, but I'm not sure which to get.[/QUOTE]

Inside Out has pictures, but it's more expensive. A Saucerful of Secrets is very, very detailed. I actually haven't read it all yet, because it's so detailed, but it's still awesome.

Broken Arrow 09-22-2005 07:55 PM

I really want "Inside Out" haven't really heard much about "Saucerful" but the way you guys talk about I should check it out.

robo2448 09-22-2005 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=magicbus]Inside Out has pictures, but it's more expensive. A Saucerful of Secrets is very, very detailed. I actually haven't read it all yet, because it's so detailed, but it's still awesome.[/QUOTE]

I think I'll get Saucerful of Secrets then. Thanks.

I'd probably be disappointed with Mason's book. I mean, pictures are awesome, but from someone who's actually a member of the band, I'd want a lot of detailed stories.


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