Hang on, they're made of B8 bronze. Isn't that a "beginner" type alloy?

No

Because 2002's are made from B8 bronze. The thing that separates a B8 and a 2002 is the quality and making process.

Ahh, right, makes sense. For some reason I was thinking that B20 was Pro, and B8 was beginner. Thanks for clearing that up. The Amuns sound sweet anyway.

I have a 2002 Crash, and honestly, it ain't no beginner cymbal. Its definitally my best rock crash on my set.

Just listen to the sound edges and crashes ;) Then you know they're not


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Has anybody heard the Paiste Twenty series cymbals yet?

I like the paiste twenty ride cymbal from the sound samples, pretty pingy, minimal wash, basically what i want.

Might want to get something that's been around a little more though.

A Ping Ride :D

Last time i heard that, it had too many overtones.

I'll check it out next time i go to GC though.

thats true. I have an older model Ping and it doesnt have much ping. Its got a lot of wash to it and some overtones. Its got very small cracks and a keyhole from when I bought it used, so im gonna be in the market for a new ride again soon.

Paiste 2oo2 Heavy rides are pretty nice, but i've never played one in real life.

Sabian HH Rock ride :D

I'm interested in purchasing a new ride, but I have no idea where to start.

I've always [B]hated[/B] dry rides.

I want a ride with distinct tones in the different playing areas. I'd like it to blend well, but still have some significant cut. I love resonance and dark cymbals, and if the ride can sound decently crashed, that'd be perfect. From what I've heard as of yet, I do like the hhx groove ride, but I'd like to see what else there is out there. Thanks.

K Custom Dark Ride.

I use one at school. Beautiful.

Eh, I listened to the audio samples on the zildjian website, not my cup of tea. Wayyy to pingy sounding.

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14743241]Has anybody heard the Paiste Twenty series cymbals yet?[/QUOTE]

yes i have. the hihats were amazing. the crashes were alright. didnt dig the ride too much.

[QUOTE=Mike Goes Numb;14745184]I'm interested in purchasing a new ride, but I have no idea where to start.

I've always [B]hated[/B] dry rides.

I want a ride with distinct tones in the different playing areas. I'd like it to blend well, but still have some significant cut. I love resonance and dark cymbals, and if the ride can sound decently crashed, that'd be perfect. From what I've heard as of yet, I do like the hhx groove ride, but I'd like to see what else there is out there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

20" K Ride HHX Groove Ride etc.

What else do you all suggest?

K Medium ride?

Maybe a paiste sig ride of some kind?

I've checked out more of the K rides and a bunch of different paiste rides; the HHX groove ride still sounds the best to me out of the different sound clips I've been able to listen to.

[QUOTE=Mike Goes Numb;14749171]I've checked out more of the K rides and a bunch of different paiste rides; the HHX groove ride still sounds the best to me out of the different sound clips I've been able to listen to.[/QUOTE]

Hmm. Definitely try them out for real/with a kit before buying, the sound clips are an OK guide, but there is definite incompatibility between the sound clips from different companies.

Is the Groove Ride crashable? I didn't realise. They may not be crashable, but K custom rides (not medium rides) can cut a fair bit whilst being dark and resonant, especially in a larger size e.g. 22". I know a lot of rock drummers use them, e.g. the chap from Muse, so they probably can cut fairly well too.

Also: HH/X rides in general

I can't speak for Paistes as I've not played them very much at all, and they've not sparked my imagination the few I have tried out.

I'm definetly going to try them out, I just want to be able to narrow down my search when I get to the shop. I did like the K's, but the clips sounded too pingy/dry and the groove ride seems to have a really unique sound compared to everything else.

OK, I'm looking at other cymbals for my kit, as it's summer and I'll be able to play drums about 40 times more than at any other time of year and I want some new "toys" (though tbh they are 100% essential :p). I play mostly rock (/pop), and funky stuff (funk drumming but not mostly to funk music if you get what I mean), and my set up so far is:


13" A Custom mastersound hihats
16" Sabian HH medium thin crash
17" A custom projection crash
20" K custom dry ride

So my cymbals so far are quite fast and un-washy (except the a custom crash). Apart from considering a different ride (mine is lovely to hear but tends to get lost playing in a band and is near to the antithesis of rock, but again it sounds very funky IMO), I am looking at probs one (due to money, even though I'm buying second hand) out of:

8" A custom splash
14" Z custom splash
17" A rock crash
17" Z rock crash
18" A med thin crash
18" A med crash
18" K custom fast crash
18" Paiste 2002
20" A china (low)

Possibly K heavy ride or A rock ride as a replacement for mine (part-exchange like).

So any inputs on what you think might go well? I'm thinking perhaps the 18" K custom fast crash, or the 18" A med thin crash?

Ignore the Z Customs. They're useless outside of metal and even there they're fairly crap.

well why would you want another fast crash if you say you want more wash?

i say go 18" med-thin A.

19" AAXplosion :D

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;14785886]well why would you want another fast crash if you say you want more wash?

i say go 18" med-thin A.[/QUOTE]

thanks, I was also thinking that, though the guy selling them does it as a business so he has a big studio type place (ex-garage, that is) with great acoustics, and drum kits set up, cymbals etc so I will go and have a play.

The 18" size would mean it has more sustain and wash than a smaller non-fast cymbal, I would have thought.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14785943]19" AAXplosion :D[/QUOTE]



Yeah, they're well nice. I've got an A custom so that's similar-ish (well not really but compared to others).

And yeah, I have heard had things about Zs from a lot of people. I'm surprised they actually still sell them - they are so much less popular than the A and K ranges, and next to none of their sponsored pros use them.

You'd be surprised.

So many people beleive they can hold up against hard hitters.

[QUOTE=Ollie The Drumming Legend;14789101]thanks, I was also thinking that, though the guy selling them does it as a business so he has a big studio type place (ex-garage, that is) with great acoustics, and drum kits set up, cymbals etc so I will go and have a play.

The 18" size would mean it has more sustain and wash than a smaller non-fast cymbal, I would have thought.





Yeah, they're well nice. I've got an A custom so that's similar-ish (well not really but compared to others).

And yeah, I have heard had things about Zs from a lot of people. I'm surprised they actually still sell them - they are so much less popular than the A and K ranges, and next to none of their sponsored pros use them.[/QUOTE]

but it is still a fast crash, if it had a substantial ammount of wash and sustain, it wouldnt be called a fast crash.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14789149]You'd be surprised.

So many people beleive they can hold up against hard hitters.[/QUOTE]

Hmm yes I guess I can believe that. But then again that seems pretty silly to me, things like A customs aren't exactly fragile - you would have to hit them incredibly hard to break them, which really doesn't ever seem that necessary unless you're battling with huge guitar amps at a badly mic'd venue...

I looked on the zildjian website....yeah z customs not exactly my cup of tea..