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modern_man 11-12-2005 05:47 AM

speaking of records.there is this new laser record player that plays vinyl records with a laser like a cd.it can play the record without damaging it.the only draw back to it is that it costs $15,000.here is a link to an article about it.

[url]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/992/scan00082ev.jpg[/url]

i personally wouldnt pay that much to listen to records.and i have/had two black sabbath records.i would have to see if i still got them in storage.theyre not in good condition but they still play.i have/had paranoid and sabbath bloody sabbath on vinyl.

rippa32 11-12-2005 07:17 PM

Ive seen Heaven and Hell brand new on vinyl. twas $40 though. So I bought Dehuminizer on CD for $25. On the topic of Dehuminizer, was it ever released on vinyl?

Grimm 11-12-2005 11:25 PM

Can anyone tell me which album has a non-live version of Iron Man?

Brew 11-13-2005 03:53 AM

rippa - I'm not sure, I don't think it was.

Grimm - Paranoid, track 4.

rippa32 11-13-2005 04:44 AM

Damn, that cover art would look great 12". So anyhoo whats Mob Rules(the album) like?

shadow_stalker 11-13-2005 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=rippa32]My personal order is Ozzy>Dio>Martin>Gillan(only because his work with Purple is better), dont really know about Hughes. Also what is wrong with the Born Again album RumBoy?[/QUOTE]
I was talking more about singing talent rather than how much i like their eras/albums.


I need you lots help i heard a Dio song on Scuzz yesturday that i loved but i can't remember what it is called, i think it has Heaven in the title, any ideas what it could be?

JACKROXYOU 11-13-2005 08:43 PM

dio with sabbath or just dio?

rippa32 11-14-2005 04:39 AM

You know shadowstalker ive got a feeling it may be a rainbow song but im not sure.

Kronos 11-14-2005 02:20 PM

[QUOTE=rippa32]My personal order is Ozzy>Dio>Martin>Gillan(only because his work with Purple is better), dont really know about Hughes. Also what is wrong with the Born Again album RumBoy?[/QUOTE]


I just hate it - the artwork on the sleeve is godawful, the music is terrible, and Gillan's voice grates on my ears and makes me tremble and start looking for sharp objects with which to harm people - viz. Mr Gillan, if he were in range.
Reasons why I don't like Ian Gillan
a) His voice is nasty (to my ears)
b) He was in the most overrated band in history (leave you to guess that one...clue; it wasn't his own band, Gillan, cos everyone knows that sucked)
c) He joined Sabbath after they'd had the unique Ozzy, and the awesome Dio. It was like sacrilege to me (don't forget I remember all this happening), and the dungpile of an album he did with them just about put the tin hat on it. The only saving grace on that entire album is the riff of Zero The Hero - not the song, just the riff.
/takes a big breath after rantage

rippa32 11-14-2005 11:05 PM

Well I like it, I also like the cover art, I have never understood why people hate it so much. The only thing I do not like is the mixing its so sludgy you can barely hear the guitar.

Hey I finally got a Sabbath record on vinyl today, Technical Ecstacy. I don't have a stylus in the turntable at the moment seeing as how I broke the old one. What is really pissing me off though is I looked at it in the shop and noticed only a couple of small scratches but after getting it home and really looking the quality is not great at all and I payed AUS$15 for it, yet I payed the same price for Led Zeppelin's Houses Of The Holy and its immaculate(well almost). So theres my rant, I feel much better now.

Kronos 11-15-2005 10:55 AM

That's the big drawback with vinyl - durability. One heavy-handed idiot and/or rubbish or worn-out stylus and it's snap, crackle and pop for the rest of its days


or even worse, it kee..

even worse it kee..

even worse it kee..

doing that. Which you can't see before playing it

shadow_stalker 11-15-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=JACKROXYOU]dio with sabbath or just dio?[/QUOTE]
It was just Dio.

if it helps at the start it had a demonic sort of voice talking about crossing a rainbow bridge, the video was a live style one with a dragons head and crap like that on the stage

Jude 11-15-2005 11:05 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]That's the big drawback with vinyl - durability. One heavy-handed idiot and/or rubbish or worn-out stylus and it's snap, crackle and pop for the rest of its days


or even worse, it kee..

even worse it kee..

even worse it kee..

doing that. Which you can't see before playing it[/QUOTE]
:angry: My Permanent Waves LP does that right in the end of Jacob's Ladder...at the part where the one chord keeps repeating anyway so it took me forever to realize the record was even broken.

Brew 11-15-2005 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]That's the big drawback with vinyl - durability. One heavy-handed idiot and/or rubbish or worn-out stylus and it's snap, crackle and pop for the rest of its days


or even worse, it kee..

even worse it kee..

even worse it kee..

doing that. Which you can't see before playing it[/QUOTE]

Not many of mine do that, which is nice. The only one that comes to mind is American Psycho by The Misfits, the last track (Hell Night) has a repeating/skipping section somewhere in the middle.

I have one album on vinyl thats really bad, it can skip from the middle of a verse to the chorus in some songs :-\

rippa32 11-15-2005 08:26 PM

A couple of my dad's Beatles albums do that, he lent em to someone who didn't take care of them. I fixed by adjusting the weight on the tone arm but that can wear both the record and stylus alot faster.

Oh shadow stalker I think ive seen bits of the video but not actually heard the music from it. It could be the song Sacred Heart though.

Jude 11-15-2005 08:52 PM

So one of my favorite bass tones ever is Geezer's on the whole SBS album. Anyone know what his gear was for that album?

rippa32 11-16-2005 03:21 AM

I don't, but brum might, hes a bass player.

Brew 11-16-2005 06:19 AM

[QUOTE=Jude]So one of my favorite bass tones ever is Geezer's on the whole SBS album. Anyone know what his gear was for that album?[/QUOTE]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think he was using Laney amps on the SBS album. No idea what bass he was using.

His tuning on that album is C#F#BE.

rippa32 11-16-2005 08:54 PM

I thought Master Of Reality and Vol 4 where the only albums to have C# tuning and the rest were D. But maybe you're right.

Brew 11-17-2005 10:34 AM

Sabbra Cadabra is played in C#, I'm pretty sure the rest of the album is aswell.

Past Lives came in the post this morning, Live at Last sounds much better than the dodgy version I downloaded ages ago, and Disc 2 sounds interesting.

Its the standard version of the album though, I didn't get a poster or plectrum :(

shadow_stalker 11-17-2005 10:57 AM

[QUOTE=rippa32]A couple of my dad's Beatles albums do that, he lent em to someone who didn't take care of them. I fixed by adjusting the weight on the tone arm but that can wear both the record and stylus alot faster.

Oh shadow stalker I think ive seen bits of the video but not actually heard the music from it. It could be the song Sacred Heart though.[/QUOTE]
Nah it definatly had Heaven in the title, if i wasnt so lazy i would go look

Kronos 11-17-2005 12:08 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]Nah it definatly had Heaven in the title, if i wasnt so lazy i would go look[/QUOTE]
Hungry For Heaven - Sacred Heart

/sorted

:thumb:

Brew 11-17-2005 12:38 PM

Wicked World on Past Lives = :eek:

superpeer 11-17-2005 12:39 PM

[QUOTE=shadow_stalker]It was just Dio.

if it helps at the start it had a demonic sort of voice talking about crossing a rainbow bridge, the video was a live style one with a dragons head and crap like that on the stage[/QUOTE]

Haha, I saw that video when I saw them, so fu[I]c[/I]king cheesy.

666sabbath666 11-17-2005 01:49 PM

i think the best ozzy era sabbath songs are Gypsy, you cant change me, johnny blade and snowblind

Brew 11-17-2005 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=666sabbath666]i think the best ozzy era sabbath songs are Gypsy, you cant change me, johnny blade and snowblind[/QUOTE]

You sir, are a wise man.

[I]So ya wanna be a Gypsy, woooohhhhahhhh...[/I]

Jude 11-17-2005 02:38 PM

[QUOTE=666sabbath666]i think the best ozzy era sabbath songs are Gypsy, you cant change me, johnny blade and snowblind[/QUOTE]
:eek:

Other than snowblind, wtf? Sabbath took a definite turn for the worse after Sabotage...the only song I really dig on Technical Ecstacy is Dirty Women and while Never Say Die is better, it still all sounds kind of contrived to me.

Brew 11-17-2005 02:55 PM

I don't really see anything spectacular about Dirty Women, its never really grabbed my attention.

temporary 11-17-2005 03:08 PM

[QUOTE=RumBoy]I just hate it - the artwork on the sleeve is godawful, the music is terrible, and Gillan's voice grates on my ears and makes me tremble and start looking for sharp objects with which to harm people - viz. Mr Gillan, if he were in range.
Reasons why I don't like Ian Gillan
a) His voice is nasty (to my ears)
b) He was in the most overrated band in history (leave you to guess that one...clue; it wasn't his own band, Gillan, cos everyone knows that sucked)
c) He joined Sabbath after they'd had the unique Ozzy, and the awesome Dio. It was like sacrilege to me (don't forget I remember all this happening), and the dungpile of an album he did with them just about put the tin hat on it. The only saving grace on that entire album is the riff of Zero The Hero - not the song, just the riff.
/takes a big breath after rantage[/QUOTE]

Thats a shame, because I've actually been thinking of getting Born Again for some time now, because I love Ian Gillian so much. I have no idea how you can say that Deep Purple is the most overrated band ever, have you actually listened to anything by them Smoke on the Water?

Kronos 11-17-2005 03:50 PM

^^^^ Yes, I'm afraid I have heard lots of DP. I think I expained my dislike in my post you quoted above. Actually, SOTW is one of their songs I like better than most, along with Black Night.

I am allowed not to rate them, aren't I?:)

Edit - sorry old chap, not the post you quoted, but one further up this page.


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