All Paistes sound the same.



And they're very accurate to the website clips.




I'd go for the full/full/full.

i thought that the full/full/full combo would be very even and work well together, that they might sound all the same, but i wasnt sure that there was enough variety, hince the power crashes in the other setups (to be honest i thought that that might be to big of leap between cymbals), thanx for the advice, other opinions are welcome

They're very similar, but still very diverse and share a wide enough range.




As in it'll sound like 3 completely different cymbals.








Also, you could do full/fast/full.

Yeah i'd probably go power/full/fast

Bigger cymbals take more power to move so you really want them to be the thinnest.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14491114]Yeah i'd probably go power/full/fast

Bigger cymbals take more power to move so you really want them to be the thinnest.[/QUOTE]

Also you could look at other brands if you wanted more variety. I have a Sabian HH medium thin crash with a Zildjian A custom crash and they go amazingly together, despite one being quite warm/dark and one being bright. personally I've never played Paistes except some of the beginner ones, and their sound clips on the website download themselves as mp3s in media player or whatever, which is a pain, plus I find their site hard to navigate, so I've never had any Paiste experience.

BTW it would really help if you said what sort of sound you're looking for, what sort of situations you're going to be playing which sorts of music in, etc.

Interesting.

I have a Zildjian K Custom fast crash (Thin) and an AAXplosion (Medium-Thin) and they go very well together despite one being quick, warm and dark and one being explosive and bright.

[QUOTE=Drum Phil;14492098]Interesting.

I have a Zildjian K Custom fast crash (Thin) and an AAXplosion (Medium-Thin) and they go very well together despite one being quick, warm and dark and one being explosive and bright.[/QUOTE]

Hmmm that is interesting - I was actually looking at a K Custom Fast Crash before I found they were very expensive and the HH was quite similar and scond hand :)

I want the longest sustaining, nastiest sounding china out there.

Suggestions?

22" Oriental china trash? 22" Oriental classic china? 27" Saluda voodoo china?

Generally I find the trashier something is the shorter its sustain is. I say the biggest oriental classic china you can find, as they sustain a lot more than the china trash but are still very trashy.

19" Paragon China

Actually, TBH, the 20" Paragon has a longer sustain than the 19".

should i get the 18" K CRASH RIDE or the 24" K LIGHT RIDE or the 18''Zildjian A Series Crash Ride Cymbal

links for sound clips:
[url]http://zildjian.com/en-US/products/productDetail.ad2?catalogID=1009&typeID=9&productID=1412[/url]

[url]http://zildjian.com/EN-US/products/productDetail.ad2?ProductID=2286[/url]

[url]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Zildjian-A-Series-Crash-Ride?sku=443832[/url]

24'' Rides are overkill.

Between those two, I'd go for the 18'' K, just because Crash/Ride's are great, although I would suggest a 18'' Istanbul Agop Mel Lewis 1982 Crash/Ride.

If you want a good ride and crash, then get the 24". 18" rides are sh[I]i[/I]t TBH.

[QUOTE=MeaninglessPhoto;14565137] 18" rides are sh[I]i[/I]t TBH.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

Don't even mention crash/rides either.

ok ill prolly get the k.

Opinions on A Custom Projection Crashes? More specifically, the 16 and 17?

They're far too abrasive for my liking.

The AAXPlosion is the same weight and much nicer.

I dont like projection crashes. They sound aweful IMO


-Ant-

16\17 pwn, 18 is a bit to fierce

get the aax plosion i have one in 18inch and loveit.

Phil, if you're on, you bought a Stagg Ice Bell, right? How are you finding it?

I bought a stagg black metal bell.

I'd say its 100% better than a Zil-bel.

Less harsh, more musical.

Kinda sounds like a Sabian Radia Bell

Excellent, thanks Phil.

This is the recording pete made of it before i bought it.

[url]http://media.putfile.com/Soundclips[/url]

Even better, that's great. eBay, here I come.

Choosing HiHats?
 

Hi guys, I'm looking for a nice pair of zildjian hihats, the nearest Guitar Center is in San Diego which is like 3hrs away from where I live so I am here expecting some help from you to make a decision... I want some crisp, clean and clear with good chick while closed and at the same time bright and washy but not to loud while open, I've been hearing some sound samples on the zildjian website to have an idea but I've heard they don't sound completely the same on person, but so far the ones I am liking are the 13/14" A Custom and the A Custom Mastersound I also like the K light hihats but I don't have much money, I have heard good things from the New Beat as well, anyway I play mostly rock and alternative (Oasis, Radiohead, Muse, Coldplay etc) what do you recommend?

New Beats

I recomend you try out all the mastersound range, a a cutsom k. I love the a mastersounds. Also try paiste 2002 SE's?


-Ant-