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Didn't Tom teach Adam how to play guitar in highschool?
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They learned from eachother... but were off that subject now. :)
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[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]They learned from eachother... but were off that subject now. :)[/QUOTE]
Just making sure. |
[QUOTE=Remedy]I would like you to play either Swamp song or Disposition[/QUOTE]
I can play Disposition :cool: |
While I love Adam Jones' guitar playing, I REALLY love Morello's playing.
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[QUOTE=The JoZ]I can play Disposition :cool:[/QUOTE]
Yeh Joz, Ive heard your bass playing. Your awesome :thumb: |
[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Tom can do alot of things on his guitar...[/QUOTE]
Yeh :lol: |
[QUOTE=The JoZ]I can play Disposition :cool:[/QUOTE]
I really love Disposition, and the few lyrics it had were among the most poetic, in terms of style, on Lateralus. |
Listening to Disposition right now. Doesn't sound too hard to play, but the only thing challenging I can think of in Tool is Danny Carey. Don't get me wrong I love, love, love, Maynards voice, but people hold him to such high regard as a skilled singer and he's no virtuoso by anymeans. His range is little better than average, he has a unique style but his voice isn't that strong. He lost his voice for three weeks after recording Ticks and Leeches. I also find that he shines more in APC, a bit of a shame though because APC is less original and a little more watered down than Tool (basing my opinion on Mer de Noms). I've heard things about him having perfect pitch but he definatly obtained it after Opiate because there are a couple "sour" notes on that album.
Here come the flamers. |
No flaming from me, because I mostly agree with you. I think there are some challenging things though besides the drumming, including guitar and bass. Granted, it's not extremely difficult, but that's not the purpose either. Adam Jones has some of my favorite all-time riffs and solos to his repetiore, purely for the sound, feel, and emotion he has in his playing.
Maynard, I love his singing style and he's a great lyricist, but he's not a singer that is just absolutely incredible in terms of technical skill. He's able to keep good and accessible melodies on top of the non-catchy and often tricky rhythmic playing from the band, which gets major props from me. As far as "sour" notes go, I think imperfections are a cool feature of any band. Tool's sound isn't overly produced, it doesn't sound like it's coming from a $2 PC mic, but the guitars and bass have that raw bite to them. |
I agree, there certainly isn't anything special about Disposition. But then again, it's really just part one of a one song when you think about it.
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[QUOTE=Kage]No flaming from me, because I mostly agree with you. I think there are some challenging things though besides the drumming, including guitar and bass. Granted, it's not extremely difficult, but that's not the purpose either. Adam Jones has some of my favorite all-time riffs and solos to his repetiore, purely for the sound, feel, and emotion he has in his playing.
Maynard, I love his singing style and he's a great lyricist, but he's not a singer that is just absolutely incredible in terms of technical skill. He's able to keep good and accessible melodies on top of the non-catchy and often tricky rhythmic playing from the band, which gets major props from me. As far as "sour" notes go, I think imperfections are a cool feature of any band. Tool's sound isn't overly produced, it doesn't sound like it's coming from a $2 PC mic, but the guitars and bass have that raw bite to them.[/QUOTE] Yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "nothing besides the drums", because there are truly strokes of genius within all the members of Tool. Moving on to a new subject, Mer de Noms. I really liked it, but it sounded a bit watered down, probably because of the song formula in most of their songs. I guess my main issue is originality. Does anyone agree with me or am I missing somthing about the band? |
[QUOTE=In Chains 36]I agree, there certainly isn't anything special about Disposition. But then again, it's really just part one of a one song when you think about it.[/QUOTE]
Well, I was actually talking about Tool in general. |
I don't know, I find them to have a really unique sound. Maybe originality is slightly lacking, but I guess unique sound and originality are pretty different. I really like the lyrics and the sound of APC, though, and if they lack anything in originality it is more than made up for by that, not to mention the emotion of the songs.
I also like the abundance of two different guitar parts on every song. |
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Moving on to a new subject, Mer de Noms. I really liked it, but it sounded a bit watered down, probably because of the song formula in most of their songs. I guess my main issue is originality. Does anyone agree with me or am I missing somthing about the band?[/QUOTE] Give 13th step a listen or 2... I truly love that album. :) |
Whew, I have been spared. I actually wouldn't been surprised if I got banned for saying that. Maynard is a god on this forum.
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[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Give 13th step a listen or 2... I truly love that album. :)[/QUOTE]
Everyone I've talked to said Mer de Noms is better, but I'll definately give 13th Step a listen. I've heard Emotive and I didn't like it that much. |
[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Whew, I have been spared. I actually wouldn't been surprised if I got banned for saying that. Maynard is a god on this forum.[/QUOTE]
If Maynard left Tool, I think Tool could carry on without him. It wouldnt be the same, but My favorite people in the band are the ones playing guitar bass and drums..... |
I can't remember who said it, but they said it best when they said "The second half of Mer De Noms is much weaker than the first."
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[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Give 13th step a listen or 2... I truly love that album. :)[/QUOTE]
13th step is different but it is a good record. Vanishing is one of my favs, so is The Noose. |
[QUOTE=r0und3r]If Maynard left Tool, I think Tool could carry on without him. It wouldnt be the same, but My favorite people in the band are the ones playing guitar bass and drums.....[/QUOTE]
It wouldn't keep together. They have much more to do than Tool, and keeping it together would just get to much in the way of everything else. |
[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I can't remember who said it, but they said it best when they said "The second half of Mer De Noms is much weaker than the first."[/QUOTE]
Wow, that actually explains alot. I subconsciously noticed that my first listen. |
[QUOTE=adams9168]Umm.. Tool would DEFINATELY not be the same. Without Maynard's vocals.. all they got is some talented dudes playing instruments. Don't get me wrong, that's still pretty good.. but the vocals are a big part of what makes Tool, Tool.[/QUOTE]
They could get someone with a similar vocal style. This gives me an idea. If you could replace Maynard with any singer, who would it be? Maynard would still write the lyrics. My vote goes to Chad Grey. I think his clean voice would mix perfectly on a song like Reflection for example, and he could do Ticks and Leeches better. |
[QUOTE=adams9168]They couldn't replace him. I don't think anyone sounds like Maynard. He's got such a fuc[b][i][/b][/i]king amazing voice.[/QUOTE]
I'm just asking a question? Who would you pick to replace him if you had to? And there are actually alot of people that have similar vocal styles to MJK. |
[QUOTE=adams9168]Who?[/QUOTE]
I think Akerfeldt, at times, does. His clean voice. |
[QUOTE=adams9168]Who?[/QUOTE]
Mike patton could do it. Hes got a different voice, but a kick *** one. Yes it would suck if maynard left. But I would still listen to the other members of Tool if they went on without him. Vocals arent a "big" part of the music, just 1/4 of it. Im listening to Bleak from Opeth right now, that guy could do it. I dont know his name, as long as he didnt growl, his singing voice is supurb. |
His vocals are a huge part, but Danny and Adam have proven that they can do a lot without Maynard. Triad live was fvcking mindblowing.
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[QUOTE=Sliptallica]I can't remember who said it, but they said it best when they said "The second half of Mer De Noms is much weaker than the first."[/QUOTE]
I said that at one point, but I'm sure other people have as well. It seems to be the general consesus. As for Maynard leaving Tool, I must protest. I think every single member is an integral part of their sound, and I'd be quite distressed if they tried to continue despite the loss of one of their members. |
Tool is not Tool without Maynard, Adam, Danny and Justin. Period.
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[QUOTE=r0und3r]Mike patton could do it. Hes got a different voice, but a kick *** one.
Yes it would suck if maynard left. But I would still listen to the other members of Tool if they went on without him. Vocals arent a "big" part of the music, just 1/4 of it. Im listening to Bleak from Opeth right now, that guy could do it. I dont know his name, as long as he didnt growl, his singing voice is supurb.[/QUOTE] Mikael Akerfeldt is his name. To anyone sayin I wouldn't replace him, I'm not saying would you replace him, I'm saying if you had to pick someone who would it be. |
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