[QUOTE=GottaPost;18241925]you don't understand what you are saying on a fundamental level

these things do not have life nor the right to life because we only have the right to what we are given. every time i nut into a condom that's a potential life i took. i took that gamete's life before it was given a chance to have one

it's a fucking lump of flesh, it is not a person and it is unwanted. it has no right to life and it has no longing for life nor sorrow for it's loss. you are projecting suffering unto it and that is all[/QUOTE]

telling the cold hard truth. :chug:

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18241919]Yo considering a fetus a human life is fundamentally wrong![/QUOTE]

at the point at which they are aborted they aren't though

it's something that doesn't sit easy with me mappy, but as harsh as it may seem a child being into this world from crack head parents or through rape doesn't deserve the life they're going to have

Unfrotunately, later term abortions still happen and there are tons of people who support this.
[QUOTE=GottaPost;18241925]you don't understand what you are saying on a fundamental level[/quote]
Your argument is completely flawed based on this assumption.

[QUOTE=limonade;18241930]what about embryos[/QUOTE]

theyre for porn.

[QUOTE]it's a fucking lump of flesh, it is not a person and it is unwanted. it has no right to life and it has no longing for life nor sorrow for it's loss. you are projecting suffering unto it and that is all[/QUOTE]

this

[QUOTE=Deth;18241927]stop it bro[/QUOTE]

No, that's the stupidest fucking assertation based on a half-baked assumption I have ever read on this forum.

lol whered mitch go? he sparked up this thing and he just kinda left.

but in a nutshell - i agree with roe v wade

I'm all for early term abortions.

lol you guys telling me to go to pnwi

I MEANT LATTER TERM ABORTIONS, EXCUSE ME MASTERS OF LOGIC.

i will never assume things are implied ever again, for fear of pretentious responses from noobs.

[QUOTE=2muchket!;18241940]I'm all for early term abortions.[/QUOTE]

same. but from months 7 through 9 thats when i start to detest it.

How late term are we talking?

this convo should migrate itself to pwni

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18241934]Unfrotunately, later term abortions still happen and there are tons of people who support this.

Your argument is completely flawed based on this assumption.[/QUOTE]

1. a 2 year old child doesn't even constitute a person, as far as i'm concerned. people are absolutely beautiful, i am filled with love for their existence. people die, others don't and sometime things die which aren't people. i think that people generally aren't born until many years after poppin out of the vaj. memories and longing and self-awareness is what constitutes a human, nothing else.

2. why don't you try [B]really hard[/B] to respond to the rest of it. this is pitiful man

[QUOTE=SwagChef;18241943]same. but from months 7 through 9 thats when i start to detest it.[/QUOTE]

What I'm talking about. 3rd trimester abortions are fucking heinous. Have you guys ever seen this? It looks like a completely desecrated miniature human. It's deplorable, anybody who supports this is a monster.

I'll support it now

[QUOTE=GottaPost;18241947]1. a 2 year old child doesn't even constitute a person, as far as i'm concerned.[/QUOTE]

umm, what

I don't think many abortions are preformed after 14 weeks, and if they are I believe it's only due to health complications.

20weeks is what i consider acceptable from what I've read

ugh im out until this convo is over

[QUOTE=GottaPost;18241947]1. a 2 year old child doesn't even constitute a person, as far as i'm concerned.[/quote]
Well you're fucking dumb then.

[quote]people are absolutely beautiful, i am filled with love for their existence. people die, others don't and sometime things die which aren't people. [/quote]
You're still pretending that I'm talking about early terms.

[quote]2. why don't you try [B]really hard[/B] to respond to the rest of it. this is pitiful man[/QUOTE]
Why should I deign to respond to your argument about something I wasn't talking about?

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18241949]What I'm talking about. 3rd trimester abortions are fucking heinous. Have you guys ever seen this? It looks like a completely desecrated miniature human. It's deplorable, anybody who supports this is a monster.[/QUOTE]

this ^^^

Bryce, I love you, but goddamn I hate you. :)

ah man u dont even know how many 3rd trimesters have gotten my underwear sticky

if a child is in a womb in the foetal stage well it is still a child to me

I think certain people should have an abortion rather than raise that kid though, otherwise it is asking for all sorts of trouble that could have been avoided. an ugly catch 22

in before some joke about my parents from elim

abortion is funny

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18241957]
You're still pretending that I'm talking about early terms.[/QUOTE]

no i'm not

i just said that i would be fine with aborting a 2 year old


seriously dude you are ridiculously bad at this

[QUOTE=limonade;18241963]ah man u dont even know how many 3rd trimesters have gotten my underwear sticky[/QUOTE]

deviant bitch

who is this guy

a abortion

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18241949]What I'm talking about. 3rd trimester abortions are fucking heinous. Have you guys ever seen this? It looks like a completely desecrated miniature human. It's deplorable, anybody who supports this is a monster.[/QUOTE]

you are projecting and that is all

what you are saying has no rational basis, however physically developed this thing is there is little more suffering involved than in earlier abortions

You just misused the words projecting and rational, and I never said anything about suffering. You're arguing about things I'm not talking about.

That's not projecting in any way, and there's nothing irrational about thinking of a fetus as a human life.

Also, this poster reeks of either ADB or Xplisit.
[QUOTE=Meatplow;18241966]if a child is in a womb in the foetal stage well it is still a child to me

I think certain people should have an abortion rather than raise that kid though, otherwise it is asking for all sorts of trouble that could have been avoided. an ugly catch 22[/quote]
I still think it's a cop-out, when you could easily give up the child to a infertile woman, or maybe change your mind once the child is born.

I heard somewhere, not sure where, that a lot of women regret abortions. I'll delve into this some time later. Too lazy atm.

oh just as a reminder -

[img]http://endued.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/malachi-aborted-baby.jpg[/img]

im not into pro-life propaganda bullshit but this is more or less what a child aborted in the last trimester looks like.

[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SG4cb22ojxY/TJdzKVq4xYI/AAAAAAAAAPg/3h05B72Oi9E/s1600/human_infant_newborn_baby.jpg[/img]

i heard somewhere that this convo is fucking lame

[QUOTE=Meatplow;18241953]umm, what[/QUOTE]
one sentence later:

[QUOTE]i think that people generally aren't born until many years after poppin out of the vaj. memories and longing and self-awareness is what constitutes a human, nothing else.[/QUOTE]

it wasnt going anywhere in life anyway, its legs arent even attached he wouldve been a cripple

[QUOTE=xMalcolmXx;18241986]it wasnt going anywhere in life anyway, its legs arent even attached he wouldve been a cripple[/QUOTE]

loooooooooooool

watchin simpsons w/ the time travel toaster

[QUOTE=xMalcolmXx;18241986]it wasnt going anywhere in life anyway, its legs arent even attached he wouldve been a cripple[/QUOTE]

lmao

[QUOTE=witchxrapist;18241978]
I heard somewhere, not sure where, that a lot of women regret abortions.[/QUOTE]

any intuitive understanding of humans and their society would assist you to greatly