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Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.

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Thanx Vision. Il Prob be buying the album next. They are definatly progressive.

I have heard that if you play Tool's "Lateralus" album in a certain order it is one big song pretty much, but I forgot the order. Anyone know it?

[QUOTE=ndude77]Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree, although I think he is very talented. I love his style. The way he incorporates certain chord progressions along with rhythmically unique riffs and the effective use of different non-chord tones to build riffs and create a song, with true progression, I find incredible. The way the songs branch of into different directions, but always return to some kind of likeness is genius.

[QUOTE=ndude77]Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.[/QUOTE]


Well, first off, Tom Morello isn't anything special technically. But you're right, neither is Adam Jones. But IMO, Adam Jones has by far the best SOUND in his guitar. The distortion is just so right. Not only that, but he his brilliant at creating an atmosphere.

But back to your point, technical-wise, I'd say that Vai and Petrucci are the apex.

Shred wise, Tom owns the hell out of Adam. Proof? Know your enemy and Darkness solos, plus on the new Audioslave record he said "their will be plenty of guitar shredding for everyone"

Sorry off topic...

In reply to what Kage was talking about, the way he builds songs, have you noticed that they almost always return to the intro riff/riffs?

[QUOTE=deathmetal]I have heard that if you play Tool's "Lateralus" album in a certain order it is one big song pretty much, but I forgot the order. Anyone know it?[/QUOTE]

And so here it is....Again:

6,7,5,8,4,9,3,10,2,11,1,12,13 ("The Lateralus Prophecy") or 6,7,5,8,4,9,13,1,12,2,11,3,10 ("The Holy Gift")


I just copy/pasted that off a site so sorry if there's a mistake in there or something.

I apologize for my laziness, but can anyone tab the single string opening riff for Lateralus. I just love that opening.

We should have a thread (locked so no one can reply) with the alternate order and news on the new album in it.

I heard about Tool from a Pearl Jam forum and eventually lent Ænima and Undertow from a friend at school.

[QUOTE=ndude77]Adam Jones is a decent guitarist. Dont worry im not here to thrash him :thumb: , i respect him immensely and just because he uses lots of guitar effects doesnt mean he sucks at all. Some guitarists are extremely talented, take any of the obvious, Hendrixes, Jimmy Pages, Stevie Ray-Vaughns, Tom Morellos. But one thing that i love about Adam Jones is that he doesnt need balsy, shredding riffs to tug at your soul and move you. So he may not be the most talented, but i think it says more in that he's been so sucessfull and dosent need amazing skills to prove anything.[/QUOTE]

I think his talent is definately in song writing, voice leading, and harmonizing. He knows what chords create moods and what chords to create to lead into the next mood. Also he knows which non-chord tones to move into the next chord change. It's a different kind of talent than shredding. The solo on Parabola is an excellent example of the leading that I'm talking about.

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]In reply to what Kage was talking about, the way he builds songs, have you noticed that they almost always return to the intro riff/riffs?[/QUOTE]

Can you give a quick example please?

I have just recently started listening to Tool(last 3-4 months) and I have became addicted to them for all you die hard fans suggest me some more songs other than what I have listed

Stinkfist(totally awesome powerfull song makes me feel like breaking things every time I hear it,play this song 7-8 times a day)
Parabola
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Prison Sex
Schism
Sober
The Grudge
Undertow
Part of me

Push!t
Third Eye
H.
46&2
Opiate
Jimmy
So many...

[QUOTE=6stringslinger]I have just recently started listening to Tool(last 3-4 months) and I have became addicted to them for all you die hard fans suggest me some more songs other than what I have listed

Stinkfist(totally awesome powerfull song makes me feel like breaking things every time I hear it,play this song 7-8 times a day)
Parabola
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Prison Sex
Schism
Sober
The Grudge
Undertow
Part of me[/QUOTE]

I would recommend that you listen to the whole album at once. They've said it themselves they are an album band. The songs as seperate entities are great, But put them together and listen to them all at once, its a bigger and more fulfilling experience. This means if you are downloading these songs to go buy the album :lol:

Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.

[QUOTE=r0und3r]I would recommend that you listen to the whole album at once. They've said it themselves they are an album band. The songs as seperate entities are great, But put them together and listen to them all at once, its a bigger and more fulfilling experience. This means if you are downloading these songs to go buy the album :lol:

Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, listen to the full albums.

[QUOTE=r0und3r]Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.[/QUOTE]
That's definitely the best order, and the one that I listened to them in.

Thanks, rOund3r,Sliptallica,BlindWriting

I will have to listen to all thier music. They are a great band that I just discovered.

[QUOTE=6stringslinger]I have just recently started listening to Tool(last 3-4 months) and I have became addicted to them for all you die hard fans suggest me some more songs other than what I have listed

Stinkfist(totally awesome powerfull song makes me feel like breaking things every time I hear it,play this song 7-8 times a day)
Parabola
Lateralus
Jerk-Off
Prison Sex
Schism
Sober
The Grudge
Undertow
Part of me[/QUOTE]

dude you gotta check out ticks and leeches as well as mantra, pu****, hooker with a *****, H, 46 and 2, and third eye. if stinkfist makes you wanna break stuff then ticks and leeches will make you want to beat the sh[COLOR=White]it[/COLOR] out of somebody. the drums are super sweet in that song as well as the guitar.

oops forgot that those were swear words

[QUOTE=letmypeopleho]Can you give a quick example please?[/QUOTE]

Alright, Lateralus, The Grudge, The Patient, Parabol/Parabola... I haven't listened to Aenima or Undertow in a while but I'm sure theres songs on their like that to...

I really hope this isn't the case, but i heard a rumour that Maynard was converting to christianity, and there are doubts that he will continue with the band, and even doubts that the new record will go ahead........(not a regular tool fan, so sorry if that's late news)

[QUOTE=Grey Incision]I really hope this isn't the case, but i heard a rumour that Maynard was converting to christianity, and there are doubts that he will continue with the band, and even doubts that the new record will go ahead........(not a regular tool fan, so sorry if that's late news)[/QUOTE]

No, it was an April Fool's joke.

[QUOTE=Sliptallica]No, it was an April Fool's joke.[/QUOTE]

oh, thank christ for that............................ <<----now that's irony for ya

i could really go for some tour/cd news from toolband.com. After playing that tribute show, i have to see the real thing.

They'd better play in England soon after the new album release if they know whats good for them.

****, i'm going to portland, seattle, and vancouver (only because i'm only 20, and i want to get drunk for a tool show)

[QUOTE=r0und3r]Listen to Enima, then Lateralus, then Undertow then Opiate, imo.[/QUOTE]

I might have to try that, i bought aenima the other day, but I also have the other albums.

One thing that I was slightly dissapointed by was that have the british version so the booklet is different to the usa one which i heard was really cool. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Shadius]They'd better play in England soon after the new album release if they know whats good for them.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I really hope they do.

I hope they stop by Edmonton again....


And earth worm jim rules...

[QUOTE=In Chains 36]Well, first off, Tom Morello isn't anything special technically. But you're right, neither is Adam Jones. But IMO, Adam Jones has by far the best SOUND in his guitar. The distortion is just so right. Not only that, but he his brilliant at creating an atmosphere.

But back to your point, technical-wise, I'd say that Vai and Petrucci are the apex.[/QUOTE]

I see lots of similarities in Tom Morello and Adam Jone's styles. Meh....maybe it's just me....