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Jondur 01-09-2006 06:22 AM

[QUOTE=vashts80]Reverend Bizarre is the only doom metal I've heard and I like it. And early Katatonia. Recommend some more.[/QUOTE]

Bands like Reverend Bizarre:

St Vitus
Pentagram
The Obsessed
Orodruin
The Gates of Slumber

Bands like Katatonia - well they ripped all of their early sound off Paradise Lost "Gothic" so maybe check that out.

Stoic 01-11-2006 11:44 AM

Jondur (or anyone who can help me)! Doomshine have recently grabbed my attention and I'm thinking of getting their full length album. Are you familiar with them and if yes what can you tell me?

Tyler 01-11-2006 11:46 AM

I'm listening to a lot of Bongzilla and Electric Wizard lately. I dont smoke pot, but they make me wish I did, haha.

Phototropic 01-11-2006 11:56 AM

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]I'm listening to a lot of Bongzilla and Electric Wizard lately. I dont smoke pot, but they make me wish I did, haha.[/QUOTE]

Yeah dude, I feel like that with Kyuss, I haven't got round to trying it yet

Electric Wizard
Kyuss
Melvins

Top 3 heavy bands of my month ;)

Tyler 01-11-2006 12:02 PM

[QUOTE=Swim]Can someone give me a [B]good[/B] description of "Stoner / Doom Metal"[/QUOTE]

I dont know if this is "good" or not, but I'll give it a shot.
It's basically slower metal, which is typically very bottom heavy and has a lot of groove to it.

Here's teh wikipedia definitions:

Doom metal is a form of heavy metal that emerged as a recognised subgenre in the mid-1980s. It is slow and heavy and intended to evoke an atmosphere of darkness, despair and melancholy. It is very strongly influenced by the early work of Black Sabbath, and a number of early Black Sabbath tracks, such as "Black Sabbath", are often considered embryonic or prototypical doom metal songs.

Stoner metal is best known by its commonly stripped down production, use of psychedelic guitar effects, and deep 1970s-rock influence from groups like Black Sabbath.

Kyle 01-11-2006 12:41 PM

I know I like some Stoner Metal, but am never sure on a few bands..

I'm seeing Clutch/Corrosion of Conformity on the 29th....is that Stoner/Doom...or neither?

repcak 01-11-2006 01:34 PM

whats about queens of the stone age? stoner rock?

Tyler 01-11-2006 01:38 PM

[QUOTE=Swim]Ok, cool, erm.

I like [B]Cult of Luna[/B] (or at least some of their songs) ,would they be classed as [I]Doom Metal[/I]?[/QUOTE]

I think they're at least bordering on it.

[QUOTE=Kyle]I know I like some Stoner Metal, but am never sure on a few bands..

I'm seeing Clutch/Corrosion of Conformity on the 29th....is that Stoner/Doom...or neither?[/QUOTE]

Clutch, well from the one album I have, I'd probably say no..but I'm not sure about CoC

[QUOTE=repcak]whats about queens of the stone age? stoner rock?[/QUOTE]

I haven't heard much of them, but Kyuss are, and some of the members of Kyuss went on to form QOTSA

Vortigon 01-11-2006 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=Kyle]I know I like some Stoner Metal, but am never sure on a few bands..

I'm seeing Clutch/Corrosion of Conformity on the 29th....is that Stoner/Doom...or neither?[/QUOTE]
I'd say CoC was classed as Stoner Metal (and risk a lynching from doomsters for using the phrase). Either way they're very good.

A_Guy 01-11-2006 05:57 PM

[QUOTE]whats about queens of the stone age? stoner rock?[/QUOTE]

No, not really. Their first album (with three Kyuss members) was hard, but not stoner. Now, their more, alternative, rock, although its not always right to catogorize them in a single genre. Definately not stoner/doom

Cravinov13 01-11-2006 06:02 PM

I've been listening to a lot of Death Doom Metal like old Katatonia and November's Doom.

Dried Muffin Remnants 01-11-2006 06:06 PM

Isis, Neurosis, Earlier Pelican, and The Melvins(?).

I love I love Celestial by Isis, but I can see why people believe Panopticon is the best. I just love sludgy stuff.

Poofy 666 01-11-2006 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=Vortigon]I'd say CoC was classed as Stoner Metal (and risk a lynching from doomsters for using the phrase). Either way they're very good.[/QUOTE]
I always considered them more Crossover/Thrashy but w/e

Bartender 01-11-2006 06:27 PM

They change quite a bit.

Jondur 01-12-2006 04:13 AM

[QUOTE=Stoic]Jondur (or anyone who can help me)! Doomshine have recently grabbed my attention and I'm thinking of getting their full length album. Are you familiar with them and if yes what can you tell me?[/QUOTE]

I answered in the death heads thread but here it is again.

Doomshine are epic doom along the lines of Solitude Aeturnus. They are quite emotional compared to the likes of Solitude Aeturnus and Solstice. I must say I don't rate them that highly - I'd recommend the likes of Solstice, SA, While Heaven Wept, Isole or Scald (RUS) instead.

Stoic 01-12-2006 05:09 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]I answered in the death heads thread but here it is again.

Doomshine are epic doom along the lines of Solitude Aeturnus. They are quite emotional compared to the likes of Solitude Aeturnus and Solstice. I must say I don't rate them that highly - I'd recommend the likes of Solstice, [B]SA[/B], [B]While Heaven Wept[/B], Isole or Scald (RUS) instead.[/QUOTE]

and I replied in Death Heads as well ;)

heh, I havent heard of these bands, thank you, your recommendations rule :D

Werny 01-12-2006 05:46 AM

[QUOTE=Phototropic]Yeah dude, I feel like that with Kyuss, I haven't got round to trying it yet

Electric Wizard
Kyuss
Melvins

Top 3 heavy bands of my month ;)[/QUOTE]

I've been loving Electric Wizard and Melvins this month too. I haven't got around to getting any Kyuss yet but the tracks I've heard are killer (their vocalist is one of the best!).

I've been trying to get some Bongzilla, the guitar tone is absolutely monolithic.

Jondur 01-18-2006 05:59 AM

Can't believe I haven't mentioned BLOODFARMERS in this thread yet! Well that's rectified that omission - check out their eponymous album.

Stoic 01-18-2006 06:06 AM

/notes down Bloodfarmers...

hmm...I listened to some random Electric Wizard songs and really liked them. What is the general attitude towards them in the stoner world and which album is supposed to be their best?

EDIT

Bloodfarmers are not listed in MA, what genre exactly are they?

Jondur 01-18-2006 07:05 AM

[url]http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5441&PHPSESSID=3f4f669a5de9135734f3b73eec58980e[/url]

Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing

Stoic 01-18-2006 05:20 PM

^Downloaded a couple of songs but I find the effect used on vocals quite irritating :(

What do you think of Grand Magus and Sleep?

Dark_Hero 01-18-2006 05:26 PM

I'm not sure if I posted my favorite stoner/doom bands yet, but here they are.

High on Fire, Bongzilla, Soilent Green, Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Clutch, Acid Bath, Blessing the Hogs, Zeke, Sleep, Electric Wizard, Melvins, Neurosis, Thrones, Buried at Sea, Isis, Reverend Bizarre, Sunn 0))), Khanate, Coffins, Eyehategod, Fistula, Jesu, YOB, Esoteric, etc.

Tyler 01-18-2006 05:34 PM

[QUOTE=Dark_Hero]I'm not sure if I posted my favorite stoner/doom bands yet, but here they are.

High on Fire, Bongzilla, Soilent Green, Black Sabbath, Saint Vitus, Clutch, Acid Bath, Blessing the Hogs, Zeke, Sleep, Electric Wizard, Melvins, Neurosis, Thrones, Buried at Sea, Isis, Reverend Bizarre, Sunn 0))), Khanate, Coffins, etc.[/QUOTE]
Zeke is about as far from Doom as you can get.

Vortigon 01-18-2006 05:40 PM

[QUOTE=Jondur][url]http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5441&PHPSESSID=3f4f669a5de9135734f3b73eec58980e[/url]

Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing[/QUOTE]
Lies, Electric Wizard and Come My Fanatics are both great. We Live is decent.

On a side note, I finally heard The River today, killer stuff, respect to you, Jon.

A_Guy 01-18-2006 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=Jondur]Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing[/QUOTE]
I really enjoy Supercoven, but I haven't heard Dopethrone, so I don't know how they compare.

Dark_Hero 01-18-2006 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=CocaineAndCrucifixes]Zeke is about as far from Doom as you can get.[/QUOTE]
It's called stoner metal. I also forgot to mention Dystopia.

Werny 01-19-2006 04:26 AM

[QUOTE=Jondur]
Only Dopethrone by Electric Wizard is worth hearing[/QUOTE]

He lies! Well not like I've got the other albums or anything, but the songs I've heard are awesome. A lot of people think Come My Fanatics... or We Live are better than Dopethrone.

Oh and to the fellow that said the vocal effect is annoying, Dopethrone and We Live are the only ones with that effect. He sounds so much worse with the un-distorted vocals! I think the effect adds to the character of Dopethrone but hey, whatever blows your whistle.

/pimps his review of Dopethrone on SputnikMusic

EDIT: Ok, maybe not. I don't think I'll be writing any more reviews/band profiles from now on.

UpperDecker 01-19-2006 07:00 AM

Sorry for asking this but what exactly is doom metal? what are the characteristics of it?

tehnick 01-19-2006 07:39 AM

Music that has characteristics of something.......doom-like.

/doesn't know.

Stoic 01-19-2006 09:35 AM

[QUOTE=Werny]
/pimps his review of Dopethrone on SputnikMusic
[/QUOTE]

weird, I didnt see any electric wizard on sputnik :confused:


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