I'm in Canada.

What exactly do you mean don't try and record each drum as a seperate track? My understanding is that the mixer puts certain things together, allowing them to be EQ'd as it makes sense, i.e. toms with toms, snare, bass, cymbals and hihats and room mics, etc.

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]I'm in Canada.

What exactly do you mean don't try and record each drum as a seperate track? My understanding is that the mixer puts certain things together, allowing them to be EQ'd as it makes sense, i.e. toms with toms, snare, bass, cymbals and hihats and room mics, etc.[/QUOTE]

I think he means that you should run all the drum mics through the mixer and then record all of those into 1 single track rather than say having one track containing all your kick drum hits, another for the snare e.t.c.

Ah. My drum teacher told me what I said was ideal, and a magazine I have on recording drums suggests this. Wouldn't it allow for more EQing options? But then I'd need to buy another soundcard, correct?

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]Ah. My drum teacher told me what I said was ideal, and a magazine I have on recording drums suggests this. Wouldn't it allow for more EQing options? But then I'd need to buy another soundcard, correct?[/QUOTE]

Syncing it will be an utter bitch. You have to remember that when you load these tracks into an audio editor, you will have to make sure they are in time.
It's a preferable method to record on single tracks but it's not really neccessary, if you're putting together a demo or e.p. then sticking all the drums onto one track should do fine, you can still e.q. them before.
I'd only reccomend single tracks if it's completely neccessary to have a perfect drumtrack otherwise you'll be getting stressed out by syncing on your pc.

Why would it not be in time anyways? :\

[QUOTE=moaner]and a USB audio interface (look at m-audio)
[/QUOTE]

This? [url]http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MobilePreUSB-main-1.html[/url]

Is that just like a soundcard?

[QUOTE=KKKKKocaine]Syncing it will be an utter bitch. You have to remember that when you load these tracks into an audio editor, you will have to make sure they are in time.
It's a preferable method to record on single tracks but it's not really neccessary, if you're putting together a demo or e.p. then sticking all the drums onto one track should do fine, you can still e.q. them before.
I'd only reccomend single tracks if it's completely neccessary to have a perfect drumtrack otherwise you'll be getting stressed out by syncing on your pc.[/QUOTE]

yeah, it'll be easier to get a fairly good sound wwith it as 1 track, than it will to get a fairly good sound all seperate.

you can EQ on the mixer for each individual mic.

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]This? [url]http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MobilePreUSB-main-1.html[/url]

Is that just like a soundcard?[/QUOTE]

yeah, kinda like a USB soundcard.

What makes it different from normal soundcards?

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]What makes it different from normal soundcards?[/QUOTE]

Its USB, it has more inputs

[QUOTE=moaner]Its USB, it has more inputs[/QUOTE]

So it can play like, through monitors and speakers, whilst taking line in from a bass and a mixer?

o really big shi

Wow! Kkkkkkkocaine, could you give me any details/info on that joshbecker./music link?? I listened to 'aftershock' and that was very good quality sound. Especially the drums and the drummer was awesome!!! Any details on the mics used, drums, recording unit would be great. (If you any of that)

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]So it can play like, through monitors and speakers, whilst taking line in from a bass and a mixer?

o really big shi[/QUOTE]

it could record the line in from a mixer and a mic from the singer, and send it to both the PC and the drummers headphones, and the studio monitors.

[QUOTE=I'd Hit it]Wow! Kkkkkkkocaine, could you give me any details/info on that joshbecker./music link?? I listened to 'aftershock' and that was very good quality sound. Especially the drums and the drummer was awesome!!! Any details on the mics used, drums, recording unit would be great. (If you any of that)[/QUOTE]

The recording unit for the home demo was a Tascam 424 MKIII. [url]http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-TAS-424MKIII--brand-265.html[/url]
Mics I have no idea about but you should be able to easily find out by emailing the owner of the site.

I actually much prefer the home demo to the rough studio mix, the keyboard comes out so much brighter and cutting in the home demo, however the vox could do with some lifting to bring it out in the mix.
As far as I know, the drums in the home demo were programmed and not actually played.

[QUOTE=moaner]it could record the line in from a mixer and a mic from the singer, and send it to both the PC and the drummers headphones, and the studio monitors.[/QUOTE]

Can it be used with the stock PC card in peace?

[QUOTE=cKy_heartagram]Can it be used with the stock PC card in peace?[/QUOTE]

yes, happily.

nah, I doubt I'd be impressed by programmed drums... see ^_^ : Music and Lyrics by Josh Becker
Studio Rough Mix MP3 (4:17)
Ron Platt: Vocals
Von Eric: Drums
Josh Becker: Guitars, Keyboards, Bass


Listen to that one, the drums are pure talent. I wouldn't think that is even do-able with a drum track machine.

But thanks for the response!!

Are those mics good?

And whats a good mixer?

[QUOTE=Trent Hatfield Manson]the other thing is for my other band we have drums
BUT
we don't have the money for the mics and ****[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if this has already been addressed, but you can usually rent mics from large music stores.

Could any one suggest a good multitrack digital recorder that will give me good results. Also what condenser mic would be good for vocals? Thankyou

Also what are the advatages/disadvatages of a digital multitrack recording unit compared to pc set recording.

[QUOTE=blackbird2]Also what are the advatages/disadvatages of a digital multitrack recording unit compared to pc set recording.[/QUOTE]

Go to the "who wnats a chuckle" thread and see why small digital multitrackers are a BAD idea.

Either get a tape one or use the PC.

Im thinking about getting a recording with 20 or 40 gigs worth of storage. How would the overquality of sound and available options match up to a computer

hey...some fantastic lessons, loads of helpful info. i was just wondering thho...how much would a decent set of drum mikes cost? our drummer is really against buying them coz he thinks they cost loads...

thanks

well buying them separately you could get away with

shure sm57 = 120 euro (snare)
3 x those tom dynamic clipons = 160 euro
decent bass mic eg beta 52 = 150 euro
two decent overheads = 300 euro

so 730 euros for a good set of mics when buying it seperately. (I only know euros from personal expirience, not what I see on sites)

When you buy them together you often don't get the overheads and on the sites they cost quite a bit. Example:

[url]http://www.shure.com/microphones/models/dmk57-52.asp[/url]

just three dynamics, (two for toms, one for snare) and 1 bass mic. no overheads. and that only is more than $800 on the site.


[url]http://www.shure.com/microphones/models/pgdmk6.asp[/url]

nearly $1000

- 2 tom mics
- 1 snare mic
- 1 bass mic
- 2 overheads

but maybe its worth it coz you get a carrying case, clamps and all the cables.

you can get a set of drum mics for about £150 if you try, with overheads. maybe even less, i'vce seen a set of drum dynamics for £50.

you certaintly don't have to pay shure prices if you're on a budget.

no you have a point there

just out of curiosity, whatever happened to theabstract?

thanks...were did you see the £150 mics??

[QUOTE=thelemon32]just out of curiosity, whatever happened to theabstract?[/QUOTE]

He's currently working with darkwhite (who left the forum) to set up a big musician community website with some help from me.
He's on msn a bit but I don't know why he doens't post anymore.