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Bruce_Springsteen_Rocks 11-10-2009 02:29 AM

shane lives in new york now hes a bike messenger and is doing well

Iluvatar 11-10-2009 02:36 AM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17633025]you're still a large bundle of sticks.[/QUOTE]

which of the hundreds of phrases should i use to say "lol tru, but u 2!"

flesh 11-10-2009 02:42 AM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17632973]Mappy shut your ****ing mouth. Why don't you go troll another messageboard and conveniently reference how your brother got you into hardcore when you were 14 but you obviously are just a korn listening nu metal large bundle of sticks who got into deathcore and decided to think that his backwards *** non-intellectual ignorant views on social stratification, race relations, and overall everyday life are somewhat THE definition of CORRECT. oh wait no you'll probably just call me a little kid or a hipster, but guess what i don't give a **** you are a worthless sack of **** and have the furthest thing possible from an actual clue about this because somehow you manage to live life and not shoot yourself in the ****ing head.[/QUOTE]
Damn, Ben thanks for reminding me how ****ing rad/righteous you are. :smash:

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17632637]You have no honor. You are bum who has a strange sense of entitlement to which you feel that you should not earn what you want. Get a job. Work. If you want something in life you attain it by applying yourself. Begging for change? Get the **** out. [/QUOTE]
Honor? Bum? Cool dude, didn't know you were the guardian of morality. I don't want a job. I get by fine without one. What I want in life can't be bought with money. I don't feel the need to comply with some of the demands of this society. Yes, I steal and frankly I don't give a **** about the companies I steal from at all and give myself a pat on the back for making even the smallest damage mark on mentioned companies.

RetiredAt21 11-10-2009 06:47 AM

[QUOTE=nevertoolate;17632852]Hey Justin, can you up some Legion plox, I've been waiting, like, forever bro[/QUOTE]

lol yeah, I always forget.

Aaron 11-10-2009 07:32 AM

[QUOTE=flesh;17633142]Damn, Ben thanks for reminding me how ****ing rad/righteous you are. :smash:


Honor? Bum? Cool dude, didn't know you were the guardian of morality. I don't want a job. I get by fine without one. What I want in life can't be bought with money. I don't feel the need to comply with some of the demands of this society. Yes, I steal and frankly I don't give a **** about the companies I steal from at all and give myself a pat on the back for making even the smallest damage mark on mentioned companies.[/QUOTE]

Dig through that bin some more, find the french fry of individuality and stick it to the man.

whiteminority 11-10-2009 08:21 AM

[QUOTE=pixiesfanyo;17633069]this whole forum has somehow managed to get even stupider which is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

no, remember your stalking of nico?

well that was also comic gold, but it was stupid as hell you have to recognize.

RetiredAt21 11-10-2009 08:24 AM

That was some funny ****.

whiteminority 11-10-2009 08:25 AM

this forum was funny back then...

whiteminority 11-10-2009 08:40 AM

[QUOTE=flesh;17633142]Damn, Ben thanks for reminding me how ****ing rad/righteous you are. :smash:


[/QUOTE]

:)

also Martin, I'll be on the west coast again in the early summer/late spring, we should choose a central location and meet up or something.

cobert 11-10-2009 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=Aaron;17632771]If you've got access to the internet you're not poor enough to be forced into the amoral situation of stealing to live.[/QUOTE]

Stealing to live isn't an amoral situation, but I don't think you meant that and this was probably just very poorly worded.

It's also absurd to think that places that have the internet have strong enough social safety nets and that all of those poor people just don't know about them. That was probably just poorly worded as well (or so I hope).

Although I don't want to turn this into a 'my childhood was worse' contest, I am inclined to agree with Ben when he presumes that a person with "cold" views on the poor probably came from a wealthier background than a person more willing to help them out. Then again, I know plenty of lower- to middle-class white people (most of my friends parents) who have been fooled into thinking that black people are taking all of the fruits of their labor and that Wall Street is on the side of hard-working Americans like them, or some crazy **** like that.

RetiredAt21 11-10-2009 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=cobert;17633531]Stealing to live isn't an amoral situation, but I don't think you meant that and this was probably just very poorly worded.

It's also absurd to think that places that have the internet have strong enough social safety nets and that all of those poor people just don't know about them. That was probably just poorly worded as well (or so I hope).

Although I don't want to turn this into a 'my childhood was worse' contest, I am inclined to agree with Ben when he presumes that a person with "cold" views on the poor probably came from a wealthier background than a person more willing to help them out. Then again, I know plenty of lower- to middle-class white people (most of my friends parents) who have been fooled into thinking that [B]black people are taking all of the fruits of their labor and that Wall Street is on the side of hard-working Americans[/B] like them, or some crazy **** like that.[/QUOTE]

lol!

It boggles my mind that people actually take Fox News seriously.

flesh 11-10-2009 10:20 AM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17633439]:)

also Martin, I'll be on the west coast again in the early summer/late spring, we should choose a central location and meet up or something.[/QUOTE]
dude, hit me up on myspace/aim for my number and i will most definitely be down to meet up and kick it.

whiteminority 11-10-2009 10:36 AM

I'm sorry I wasn't trying to make it into my childhood is worse thing, I felt that subject was pertinent to my point.

also martin: sounds good dude. i'm going to TRY to cruise around the area for a month or so but it may just end up being a couple weeks in portland at my aunt and uncle's. however if the latter is the case i'm still down to catch a bus or something and ride down into cali for a weekend or something.

RouteOne 11-10-2009 10:52 AM

[quote=whiteminority;17633003]there is no line, life is about survival and making sure you don't hate yourself in the process. harm no one is the only policy i live by, and i am not harming a soul when i steal from wal-mart.[/quote]
Yes you are


Do you understand marketing and economics



no





[quote=flesh;17633142]


Honor? Bum? Cool dude, didn't know you were the guardian of morality. I don't want a job. I get by fine without one. What I want in life can't be bought with money. I don't feel the need to comply with some of the demands of this society. Yes, I steal and frankly I don't give a **** about the companies I steal from at all and give myself a pat on the back for making even the smallest damage mark on mentioned companies.[/quote]
So you have no motivation to actually work for something? The thing is, you're NOT getting by fine without one. Look at what you're doing.


Work sets you free and makes you a better person. Being industrious does a lot for you. Look. I don't hate you. You just piss me off because you have this "argrgrhrgrgh the world is out to get me, I live in the most prosperous country in the world but I don't want to legitimately work for any of it." Working sharpens your social skills, makes you a stronger person and not to mention gives you money for SS, medical, and pocket money. I'm guessing you're around 18-21. Just work at some little place for 3 days a week for 6 or 7 hours and you won't need to jump into trash cans or humiliate yourself by asking strangers for change.




[quote=flesh;17633544]dude, hit me up on myspace/aim for my number and i will most definitely be down to meet up and kick it.[/quote]
How do you afford a computer, the electricity needed to run it, the house its probably in and a phone?

whiteminority 11-10-2009 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17633597]Yes you are


Do you understand marketing and economics



no[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry you can explain to me why the theft that I complete, which is factored into any responsible business executives cost analysis of running a supermarket, harms anyone besides Wal-Mart? It must be nice having everything handed to you that you can hold such classist views and be comfortable with your superiority to those who have less wealth than you.

cobert 11-10-2009 11:03 AM

[QUOTE=whiteminority;17633568]I'm sorry I wasn't trying to make it into my childhood is worse thing, I felt that subject was pertinent to my point.[/QUOTE]

Oh no problem, I just wasn't willing to go into mine and I'm pretty sure if anyone else jumped in it would turn into a pissing contest.

whiteminority 11-10-2009 11:05 AM

Coblove

RouteOne 11-10-2009 11:08 AM

[quote=whiteminority;17633610]I'm sorry you can explain to me why the theft that I complete, which is factored into any responsible business executives cost analysis of running a supermarket, harms anyone besides Wal-Mart? It must be nice having everything handed to you that you can hold such classist views and be comfortable with your superiority to those who have less wealth than you.[/quote]
You are taking a product that wal-mart could have sold to make a profit, which goes to pay their employees. You are harming the business and the employees.

Look, I hate Wal-mart too. Truly. Its nothing but trouble.

I'm just looking at it from a purely disconnected and objective view.



PS I've had nothing handed to me. I work two jobs right now and everything I own is by my own doing. If what I'm saying seems "classist", then it is just me pointing out the absurdity of people that complain that they're poor but don't even want to work, or some of the ridiculous anti-flag views out there. If you want something in life, you work for it.

flesh 11-10-2009 11:12 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17633597]So you have no motivation to actually work for something? The thing is, you're NOT getting by fine without one. Look at what you're doing.


Work sets you free and makes you a better person. Being industrious does a lot for you. Look. I don't hate you. You just piss me off because you have this "argrgrhrgrgh the world is out to get me, I live in the most prosperous country in the world but I don't want to legitimately work for any of it." Working sharpens your social skills, makes you a stronger person and not to mention gives you money for SS, medical, and pocket money. I'm guessing you're around 18-21. Just work at some little place for 3 days a week for 6 or 7 hours and you won't need to jump into trash cans or humiliate yourself by asking strangers for change.





How do you afford a computer, the electricity needed to run it, the house its probably in and a phone?[/QUOTE]
I'm set on not working some **** job at a grocery store or the mall. I've had experience with it and find it much more humiliating and harder than what I do at the moment for money. I don't want some fat douche bag manager of the store giving himself a power trip by ordering me around. Another reason I don't want to work is because I don't want to deal with bulls'hit customers who I would prefer spitting in their face. I also don't want to change my appearance to work, seeing as how if I would apply for a job I would have to cut part of my hair, etc. I don't ask (i definitely don't "beg") for money every day. It's not really humiliating at all considering its people I will most likely never see again. My parents paid for the computer, electricity, house and phone. And before I get **** about that, they would be paying for those things even if I didn't live with them.

cobert 11-10-2009 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=Mr. Ron;17633620]You are taking a product that wal-mart could have sold to make a profit, which goes to pay their employees. You are harming the business and the employees. [/QUOTE]

I'm almost positive that if nothing was stolen from Wal-Mart for a whole month, they would still pay their employees like **** and fire any of those who attempt to unionize. I'm also pretty sure that if twice as much was stolen from Wal-Mart in one month, they would still pay their employees like **** and fire any of those who attempt to unionize, except in this scenario they might install some more cameras into every store and fire some employees out of suspicion, then hire new people from the 17 percent of American that is now unemployed or underemployed.

whiteminority 11-10-2009 11:14 AM

I just don't see morals as objective.

Once again they factor into their cost analysis each year for petty theft such as what I commit, I don't generally even steal unless I absolutely need to, but once again it's not because I feel bad about stealing from Wal-Mart.

I'm not trying to offend you but it just seems that some of your views imply some sort of cushion from the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum and I'm not a big fan of people who have had more opportunity tell me that how I choose to survive is wrong. I have always liked you Ron even when you told me to go play in a bongo circle with a bunch of hippies if I hated America so much, you're an intelligent guy and I know that you just are coming from somewhere else fundamentally on the subject, so when I say I'm not trying to offend you I mean it. I apologize if I have.

And I don't know if you saw, but I work two jobs myself and go to school, so I do work for what I want in my life, but sometimes the ends still don't meet...

whiteminority 11-10-2009 11:15 AM

also i would like to point out that i hate anti-flag.

cobert 11-10-2009 11:16 AM

I don't really interact with Ron except recently in here but I see him post a lot and he's a bro.

Anti-Flag are from Pittsburgh BLARGH

whiteminority 11-10-2009 11:16 AM

where is chris for this?

cobert 11-10-2009 11:17 AM

smoking a blunt, probably, idk

cobert 11-10-2009 11:20 AM

or just realizing that arguing about this probably isn't worth it

i like arguing though, it sharpens my own views, even though I feel like every angle to every position I hold has been tried and the only thing that could sway me would be some empirical evidence that can't be explained away.

Iluvatar 11-10-2009 11:24 AM

interesting view on life breh

cobert 11-10-2009 11:37 AM

:-*

Gnarmageddon 11-10-2009 11:37 AM

new gaza album is ****ing heavy

whiteminority 11-10-2009 02:03 PM

[QUOTE=Gnarmageddon;17633676]new gaza album is ****ing heavy[/QUOTE]

i'll be sure to check it out.


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