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Squirrel 08-26-2004 12:06 PM

Escape and Trapped Uner Ice arent really that good.

[QUOTE]memory remains, i disappear, until it sleeps, of wolf and man[/QUOTE]

Memory Reamains = good

I Disappear = Good

Until it Sleeps = Amazing

Of Wolf and Man = suckage.

DisposableHeroes 08-26-2004 12:09 PM

i like King Nothing and Fuel though

Squirrel 08-26-2004 12:13 PM

King Nothing drags a tiny bit, Fuel is good though.

DisposableHeroes 08-26-2004 12:14 PM

Avril slaughtered it though

Squirrel 08-26-2004 12:15 PM

Oh god yeah, her band were good but she down right sucked.

DisposableHeroes 08-26-2004 12:20 PM

why on earth was she invited to come anyway, thats one thing i will hold against Metallica until a reasonable explanation is given

Squirrel 08-26-2004 12:22 PM

Yeh, all the bands bar Sum 41 were REALLY bad choices.

None of the bands showed any influence in their music or writing whatsoever from Metallica.

DisposableHeroes 08-26-2004 12:24 PM

i mean you can hear the metal influence in Sum 41 at times, but how on earth Limp Bizkit etc has been influenced is anyone's guess

bastardsloth 08-26-2004 12:51 PM

lol, off subject, but I just watched(sp?) Cliff Em' All and james said that they weren't going to call there first album kill Em' All. They were going to call it Metal Up Your ***. but their record label wouldn't let them, so Kil Em' All is refering to Kill all of the Record people. during a concert, he has the croud chant "metal up your ***!" I think that if a band called a CD metal up your ***, or had a croud chant it these days, it would have a whole different meaning. comments?

bastardsloth 08-26-2004 12:52 PM

****it, how do I get past the cencors?

Arise 08-26-2004 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]i mean you can hear the metal influence in Sum 41 at times, but how on earth Limp Bizkit etc has been influenced is anyone's guess[/QUOTE]

You talking 'bout that MTV Ico thingie, right?

****, that whole thing was a ****ing joke. Not a single real metal band on the whole set. Avril Lavigne (not to mention such ****tards a s staind, korn, and shrimp dip****) has no buisnes covering Metallica songs. For ****s sake, thay can barely play their own. The whole thing was just embarrasing.

The only exception might have been, like previously mentioned, Sum 41. I was surprised to see the indian dude shred the **** outta MOP

Squirrel 08-26-2004 01:20 PM

He didnt do it perfectly, bit rough, but it was still good.

I expect good thing from Sum 41 in the future - when i saw them live they had loads of double bass drums in there.

Zmev 08-26-2004 01:29 PM

So sum 41 > every other band on mtv icon?

:eek:

what about the snoop-dizzle and his great version of sad but true? :rolleyes:

Domino_guitar 08-26-2004 01:36 PM

i am goin to curse and swear St.Anger now...kiddies look away....Metallica are ****edc in the head for makni that piece of **** album god dam i hate St.Angerr it's gay as hell and sucks cock dma it dma it dam it there old stuff rocks the socks right off my hands and blows my mind but that piece of **** that i hate as you can tell ..doesn't even have any solo's how could they do that to Kirk it's discrimanation man..he deservers to solo and i deserver to hear him do it ......i ****IN HATE ST.ANGER is all i am trying to get through ...the new album better be nothing like that ****ed up thing they call St.Anger ...ST.Anger my *** St.Garbage is what they ment to call it......writing this is makin me so mad i can't even spell...........kirk if ur reading this i feel ur pain of having to produce St.Garbage


Thank you for your time in reading this......Metallica ****in ROCK BITCHES

bastardsloth 08-26-2004 01:42 PM

wow, uh, may I suggest some valium, or some other calming drug

Squirrel 08-26-2004 01:45 PM

[QUOTE]So sum 41 > every other band on mtv icon?

[/QUOTE]

By far.

Domino_guitar 08-26-2004 01:53 PM

[QUOTE=bastardsloth]wow, uh, may I suggest some valium, or some other calming drug[/QUOTE]

so ture i do need some....mabe i can get some on ebay lol

Bulldogabel 08-26-2004 02:27 PM

[QUOTE=Chu]That's bull, and if that album made Metallica popular, I feel sorry for Metallica.
I'm still a fan of it, but I think some of the songs are too similar, and One is a horrible recreation of Fade To Black/Sanitarium.
I prefer even Black Album's simple guitaring to ...AJFA, but I still prefer ...AJFA to Load, Reload or St. Anger (Even though I bought all three :D).[/QUOTE]
I said, at the time!

Chu 08-26-2004 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=Squirrel_h4x]Escape and Trapped Uner Ice arent really that good.



Memory Reamains = good

I Disappear = Good

Until it Sleeps = Amazing

Of Wolf and Man = suckage.[/QUOTE]

You obviously know **** all if you think Memory Remains and I Disappear are better then Escape and Trapped.

Edit: Dream Theater rip the **** out of MoP too, like, the do the whole album in 57 minutes! It's better musically then Metallica, but vocally it's horrible.
But the Dream Theater guitarist makes it all worth it.

-=The_Dude=- 08-26-2004 05:15 PM

I disappear is one of Metallicas best for sure. And Escape is ****in awsome

KWG 08-26-2004 07:08 PM

Just saw some kind of monster movie. its quite good i think, the new bass player kicks *** and the un edited(longer) version of some kinda monster is one of my favs

drummin_666 08-26-2004 07:27 PM

[QUOTE=-=The_Dude=-]I disappear is one of Metallicas best for sure. And Escape is ****in awsome[/QUOTE]

Well i don't think it's their best song...but it is wicked
and Escape is Sooooo underrated. It gets next to NO credit and it's actually really good :thumb:

jsguitar1 08-26-2004 07:37 PM

Hate to ruin all of your days but um, Metallica sucks and doesn't deserve their own thread. Hell they don't deserve to be able to play guitar anymore. I've been listening to Metallica since 1986 and they have produced nothing but crap since 96. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I remember Ride the Lightning and being blown away by it as well as Master of Puppets. I was able to tolerate the black album as well but they lost their nuts after Justice was released.

But hey, it's only my opinion and the negativity is geared toward newer metallica. Just disappointed that people think they need their own thread when there's nothing to say.

jsguitar1 08-26-2004 07:38 PM

Other then they are overpaid. :)

NoLeafClover54 08-26-2004 07:44 PM

i dissapear is ofcourse an amazing song, i was just kinda pissed when they lost the mtv video award to limp bizket :angry:

[SIZE=3]I DISSAPEAR> THAN ANY LIMP BIZKET SONG[/SIZE]

jsguitar1 08-26-2004 07:47 PM

I agree Limp is very untalented and a waste of ear drum use.

But it's just my opinion.

Kingofdudes 08-26-2004 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=jsguitar1]Hate to ruin all of your days but um, Metallica sucks and doesn't deserve their own thread. Hell they don't deserve to be able to play guitar anymore. I've been listening to Metallica since 1986 and they have produced nothing but crap since 96. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

I remember Ride the Lightning and being blown away by it as well as Master of Puppets. I was able to tolerate the black album as well but they lost their nuts after Justice was released.

But hey, it's only my opinion and the negativity is geared toward newer metallica. Just disappointed that people think they need their own thread when there's nothing to say.[/QUOTE]

They got their own thread because there were way too many metallica threads, maybe you would know that if you read the first post.

Black - Reload IMO was them changing their direction with their music, if I recall a few of them did some serious music theory studying between the Black album and the Loads, maybe they felt that they wanted to try something different.

Now St. Anger, well of course it has been said 1000 times, WTF?

jsguitar1 08-26-2004 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]They got their own thread because there were way too many metallica threads, maybe you would know that if you read the first post.

Black - Reload IMO was them changing their direction with their music, if I recall a few of them did some serious music theory studying between the Black album and the Loads, maybe they felt that they wanted to try something different.

Now St. Anger, well of course it has been said 1000 times, WTF?[/QUOTE]

Just a cop out my friend. I have been a musician for a long time and I will tell you it was a lie to sell more CD's and to justify their sudden change (uh um selling out). This is the same old **** that new fans and the old fans that still wanted to be fans would say time and time again. They studied music and they wanted a change. Bull****! They changed to match the crap that was getting shoved down our throats on all the radio stations and MTV in hopes that they would win the hearts of the new kiddie and that hopefully most of the old fans would forgive them. They did it for cash and it was a business move. The good music went out the window and anyone that knows the whole story knows that.

END OF THREAD

Kingofdudes 08-26-2004 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=jsguitar1]Just a cop out my friend. I have been a musician for a long time and I will tell you it was a lie to sell more CD's and to justify their sudden change (uh um selling out). This is the same old **** that new fans and the old fans that still wanted to be fans would say time and time again. They studied music and they wanted a change. Bull****! They changed to match the crap that was getting shoved down our throats on all the radio stations and MTV in hopes that they would win the hearts of the new kiddie and that hopefully most of the old fans would forgive them. They did it for cash and it was a business move. The good music went out the window and anyone that knows the whole story knows that.

END OF THREAD[/QUOTE]

Wow you bitch alot dont you. Thing is, you dont know they did it for the money, they could have done it because they wanted to! You cant say they did it for the money because you arent them, nor can I, it is all speculation.

Im not fan of their new stuff either, it would be great to have Pre-Black album Metallica back, but like i said in the other thread, whining about how current rock sucks isnt going to change anything.

jsguitar1 08-26-2004 08:59 PM

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]Wow you bitch alot dont you. Thing is, you dont know they did it for the money, they could have done it because they wanted to! You cant say they did it for the money because you arent them, nor can I, it is all speculation.

Im not fan of their new stuff either, it would be great to have Pre-Black album Metallica back, but like i said in the other thread, whining about how current rock sucks isnt going to change anything.[/QUOTE]

Dude it's time to sleep. I was backing down 5 year old babies on the other thread that were insulting older rock and bragging about newer rock that's all.

I'm voicing my opinion toward others that oppose it not toward people like you who reply with useless information and complain that I'm saying something. You don't need to reply to everything unless you have concrete evidence and have a reason to talk or argue. Stop defending Metallica man, it isn't worth it. They did it for cash and you don't have to be James Hetfield to know that. To be honest it was good for them because now they make more money than ever, there music just sucks like the rest of todays garbage at the expense.

Screw man.

Kingofdudes 08-26-2004 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=jsguitar1]Dude it's time to sleep. I was backing down 5 year old babies on the other thread that were insulting older rock and bragging about newer rock that's all.

I'm voicing my opinion toward others that oppose it not toward people like you who reply with useless information and complain that I'm saying something. You don't need to reply to everything unless you have concrete evidence and have a reason to talk or argue. Stop defending Metallica man, it isn't worth it. They did it for cash and you don't have to be James Hetfield to know that. To be honest it was good for them because now they make more money than ever, there music just sucks like the rest of todays garbage at the expense.

Screw man.[/QUOTE]

Concrete evidence? I said it is all speculation, so of course there isnt any concrete evidence. You dont have any evidence either. At least I stated it as speculation, im not saying im right and your wrong, im saying try to see it from a different perspective.

Have you seen their live show recently? They play mostly pre black album songs. The show I went to, they only played 1 St. Anger song, 1 Load song, a few Black album songs, and the rest pre-black album. It shows that they still have their fans in mind.

But of course, im wrong and your right because you know everything :rolleyes:

NoLeafClover54 08-26-2004 09:22 PM

look jsguitar1 you just dont come into a metallica thread and flame the band were talking about, it not cool. And im not gonna deny your music history and what not, but most of us dont like st.anger (personally i like everyhting form kill'em all to garage days inc) so your entitled to your oppinon, i just dont agree with your oppinions so be quiet and leave the thread unless you have metallica information or 'positive inromation' to say so leave

Five Magics 08-26-2004 09:26 PM

Heres my take on the Load albums. Load was good but different, Reload was bad however. But I really think had they condensed the albums to just one album and selected the best songs for it, it would have turned out much better for them. Heres what I think the track listing should have been for the loads in this order:

1. Fuel
2. The Outlaw Torn
3. 2X4
4. The Unforgiven II
5. King Nothing
6. Prince Charming
7. Bleeding Me
8. Until It Sleeps
9. The Memory Remains
10. Hero of the Day
11. Ain't My Bitch
12. Thorn Within
13. Wasting My Hate
14. Fixxxer

Also, I think the album should have been titled differently, such as "The Outlaw Torn" or something like that, to keep consistent with the many albums they have that have the title track in the number 2 position. Anyways, I think they would have done much better with this but it is no where near as good as any of there previous albums.

NoLeafClover54 08-26-2004 09:30 PM

i like ur track lisitng Five Magics it brings all the different moods from both albums :chug: and it would have been cool to have some really fast songs instead of the kinda bleak ones form load i would just add

hero of the day
devils dance
bleeding me

Five Magics 08-26-2004 09:34 PM

[QUOTE=NoLeafClover54]i like ur track lisitng Five Magics it brings all the different moods from both albums :chug: and it would have been cool to have some really fast songs instead of the kinda bleak ones form load i would just add

hero of the day
devils dance
bleeding me[/QUOTE]

**** I totally forgot about Hero of the day, Bleeding Me I already have on it, Im not a fan of Devil's Dance Lars Brutal drumming killed me on it, it could have been sooo much better(please people dont start the Lars is **** stuff again, that was my opinion on that one song)

PoliticallyIncorrectMetalhead 08-26-2004 10:20 PM

I Love Metallica. I'm so proud to say I have all there albums and I love all of them. Even St. Anger.

punksanitarium 08-26-2004 10:55 PM

who was the best bassist
 
whos was the best bassist and why i think burton rules all



KILL EM ALL

-=The_Dude=- 08-26-2004 10:56 PM

[QUOTE]Reload was bad however[/QUOTE]
your stupid

M17avenasativa 08-26-2004 11:18 PM

[QUOTE=Squirrel_h4x]Yeh, all the bands bar Sum 41 were REALLY bad choices.

None of the bands showed any influence in their music or writing whatsoever from Metallica.[/QUOTE]
Staind did pretty good to, but yea(Avril, Korn, and......dear I say it:( Limp Bizkit oh dear god:( )

???WTF does Limp Bizkit mean anyway, it sounds like a soggy cracker or something like really (****in dummy's)

shurleys 08-27-2004 08:14 AM

Albany NY presale code
 
I'm trying to get the presale code for albany NY concert in October. They are on presale today.

Can anyone help????


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