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roots 05-23-2006 06:41 PM

I would do it in your situation if those are the given circumstances, but I would still mention it to your friend, even if he is close-minded. that way he can't say you stole her.

Noyana 05-23-2006 08:36 PM

I went out with an 18 year old when i was 16 and it was fine

my friend went out with a guy that was 18 when she was 15... we were all sophmores and they were seniors but our two groups in respective grades got along really well and had terrific times (we were on the debate team together)

it's not bad at all to date a younger person. just don't put too much pressure on them or expect them to act the age you are. realize that they're younger and accept it, hopefully - they're awesome and you don't have to worry about any of that (yes i realize i used plurals wrong, sorry)

Iscariot 05-23-2006 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=Luster]I went out with an 18 year old when i was 16 and it was fine

my friend went out with a guy that was 18 when she was 15... we were all sophmores and they were seniors but our two groups in respective grades got along really well and had terrific times (we were on the debate team together)

it's not bad at all to date a younger person. just don't put too much pressure on them or expect them to act the age you are. realize that they're younger and accept it, hopefully - they're awesome and you don't have to worry about any of that (yes i realize i used plurals wrong, sorry)[/QUOTE]

I dated my recent ex thinking that I wouldn't have to treat her like a younger person (I'm 19, she was 17, now 18). Apparently the idea that women mature faster than men is not always true, because for an almost adult she acted a lot like my 14-year old sister. My advice is don't date younger women, UNLESS they're out of high school. The whole high school thing seems to just destroy any chance at a mature relationship you could ever have with them.

Noyana 05-23-2006 09:38 PM

high school - high school relationships work, but college - high school relationships hardly ever do. the mentality of each is drastically different plus obvious difficulties in maintaining a relationship of that nature. (that said i have a friend who has been dating a sophmore in college - they're going on three years now which is the one exception i know of)

some women mature early, some don't. seems like you got the raw end of that deal. :rolleyes:

Tiger 05-23-2006 09:45 PM

Ive never encountered a female that was more mature than me that was within 8 or so years of my age.

Noyana 05-23-2006 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=Tiger]Ive never encountered a female that was more mature than me that was within 8 or so years of my age.[/QUOTE]

you're not even 20. that's a pretty impressive feat there.

Tiger 05-23-2006 09:55 PM

[QUOTE=Luster]you're not even 20. that's a pretty impressive feat there.[/QUOTE]


Not necessarily, females are pretty legendary for having their head up their *** and posessing an amazing lack of self awareness, plus they have tunnel vison.


That said, they are still rivaled by Damien Rhoades. That 'guy' menstruates weekly.

Special Brew 05-23-2006 11:26 PM

Lmao, you can't even spell my name right, and try to insult me with nonsense.

Tiger 05-23-2006 11:36 PM

Spelling your name isnt necessarily a priority in life for me.

Special Brew 05-23-2006 11:41 PM

But bringing me up for absolutely no reason seems to matter enough to you, so I assume you'd take the time to learn the name of who you're so eager to flame.

Iscariot 05-24-2006 12:41 AM

[QUOTE=Tiger]Not necessarily, females are pretty legendary for having their head up their *** and posessing an amazing lack of self awareness, plus they have tunnel vison.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure there are as many logical, rationally thinking women as there are men in the world.

I just have yet to meet one.

purplefeet 05-24-2006 01:55 PM

I myself find that I am more mature than most people, not just a selected gender.

I dont think (from earlier on in this page) high school relationships will work. I think that in a 9 times out of 10 ratio. Most people havent developed themselves while they are in high school so trying to connect with someone else while you havent found yourself isnt your best bet.

Im not saying you have to be on your career path or anything to have a steady realtionship, but you need to know what you want in someone and in a relationship - where most people just go by what they see in movies and tv and think thats how it should be.

I find kids are way too protected and jealous at ages 16, 17 etc. to be in a relationship because they are immature and insecure with themselves. Once they get over that feat. than I think they will be able to begin a meaningful, and potenitally long, intimate realtionship with another.

z712 05-24-2006 02:47 PM

Tiger, do you get off insulting people in this thread and making useless comments?

I_was_god 05-24-2006 04:33 PM

big BIG problem. I really like this girl, we are good friends n' all, but I have other feelings for her. But just a few minutes ago my friend (he's not really, I just hung around wit him now and again) told her everything about how I felt about her, and now shes is kinda put off by it..Im so pissed off and dont know what to do!?

i am the robots 05-24-2006 04:37 PM

If she's put off by it, I'm sorry, but things probably won't work, you could ask her to see how things would work out, but that could just lead to messing up the relationship.

I_was_god 05-24-2006 04:40 PM

........

mmfan486 05-24-2006 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=I_was_god]big BIG problem. I really like this girl, we are good friends n' all, but I have other feelings for her. But just a few minutes ago my friend (he's not really, I just hung around wit him now and again) told her everything about how I felt about her, and now shes is kinda put off by it..Im so pissed off and dont know what to do!?[/QUOTE]
Oh God... sorry about that man. I remember telling 2 of my friends that I liked this girl, one of them asked her out himself and the other told me he was already going out with her! Friends are complete arseholes when it comes to this stuff, man.

Deal with your "friend" first. You need to let him know that it was completely wrong to do that. Say to him "Mate, what the hell did you tell her that for? She didn't have to know! That was well out of line!" (Alter for regional dialect, I'm from the West Midlands in the UK and that's how I would say it...) The purpose of this, believe it or not, is insurance. Now that your friend knows that you don't want him to do stuff like that, he will either not do it, or if he does, you get to tell everyone that you told him not to and he's being a bell-end.

Then you have to deal with the girl, and that is hard, I don't dispute that. Try and get her on her own, first. This will be tricky, as she knows your feelings, so by now will all her friends and seperating her from said friends will result in a great deal of giggling from them. But between that and telling her what you need to tell her (more on that later) in front of everyone she knows, getting her on her own is the lesser of 2 evils.

Once you've done that, I think the best thing you can say to her would be something like this: "Look, I'm sorry about what (Friend's Name) said to you. It is true, there's no point denying it now, but I wasn't ever going to tell you. And you don't need to worry about it; I'm not going to do anything about it now. Don't be put off, or anything like that." Then, if she has anything to say to you, for ****'s sake listen, and reply with an appropriate contextual answer. You might have to deal with crushing dissapointment while you're doing this, I never said it was going to be easy.

What you shouldn't do is let things run their course, because unless you set the record straight with these people, everything that's happening now is going to keep on happening.

Iscariot 05-24-2006 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=I_was_god]big BIG problem. I really like this girl, we are good friends n' all, but I have other feelings for her. But just a few minutes ago my friend (he's not really, I just hung around wit him now and again) told her everything about how I felt about her, and now shes is kinda put off by it..Im so pissed off and dont know what to do!?[/QUOTE]

Obviously her feelings aren't reciprocated. There's nothing you can do to woo her over to your side at this point, so just accept that your cover is blown and do your best to maintain the friendship.

SlashFortyForty 05-24-2006 06:19 PM

Ok, I just wanna know if this sounds like this chick likes me, one of my best friends.

Tells my friends I'm "great" "the sweetest guy in the world" "wonderful" and "awesome to be around". She also tells me these things herself, and I told her there's a specific girl I liked, lamely enough, it was her and I didn't tell her, now she is desperate to know who it is.

Do you think she likes me, or is just curious, and should I stick with unveiling the girl I talk about is really her, or lie perhaps and say I had a change of feelings or what? I dunno.

This chick pwnz *** though.

i am the robots 05-24-2006 06:27 PM

Tell her the truth?

Seriously, it takes [I]loads[/I] off of your chest.

SlashFortyForty 05-24-2006 06:29 PM

Yeah, but what if she doesn't like me?

I've never been upfront with a girl before about my feelings, and if I get turned down, it will be a new and most likely ****TY experience.

Does it sound like she does?

RouteOne 05-24-2006 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=Iscariot]I dated my recent ex thinking that I wouldn't have to treat her like a younger person (I'm 19, she was 17, now 18). Apparently the idea that women mature faster than men is not always true, because for an almost adult she acted a lot like my 14-year old sister. My advice is don't date younger women, UNLESS they're out of high school. The whole high school thing seems to just destroy any chance at a mature relationship you could ever have with them.[/QUOTE]
I date a younger girl and she's still in highschool and she's pretty mature. Meh, guess it's situational.

i am the robots 05-24-2006 06:33 PM

There is a good chance that she does. Either way, if you're up front about your feelings, she'll respect you for being straighforward and honest... plus if she doesn't think of you that way at the moment, it will give her something to ponder, which could lead to something.

edit: to SlashFortyForty

purplefeet 05-24-2006 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=SlashFortyForty]Ok, I just wanna know if this sounds like this chick likes me, one of my best friends.

Tells my friends I'm "great" "the sweetest guy in the world" "wonderful" and "awesome to be around". She also tells me these things herself, and I told her there's a specific girl I liked, lamely enough, it was her and I didn't tell her, now she is desperate to know who it is.

Do you think she likes me, or is just curious, and should I stick with unveiling the girl I talk about is really her, or lie perhaps and say I had a change of feelings or what? I dunno.

This chick pwnz *** though.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like you are both 15. If she shoots you down, you have oodles of time and many more women to get over it.

You go nothing to lose, kid.

Jom 05-24-2006 08:42 PM

Agreed, you don't really have anything to lose. If she says those things to your face directly, it'd be rather cruel of her to be like, 'OMG JK LOL.'

Just go with it - what do you have to lose? Maybe a bruised ego, but what are the odds that you will wind up with one? Just weigh the two sides.

SlashFortyForty 05-24-2006 08:59 PM

Wow, We are both 15.

Go purplefeet, I did make myself seem a tad unserious and uncaring in that post.

I should really edit it, but I don't feel like it.

I've dug this girl for a long time though.

I think it may work now.

Junooni 05-24-2006 09:07 PM

I tried that, told her I really liked a girl, didn't say who.

Told her it was her one day, she didn't talk to me for 3 and a half weeks.

Egggo 05-24-2006 09:08 PM

Then that means...She didn't like you that way :-O

Junooni 05-24-2006 09:09 PM

I know. :upset:

She's talking to me now though... :D

but she's moving in a month :upset:

Egggo 05-24-2006 09:09 PM

It's okay, there's like 3 billion girls on the planet at any time.

That's like:

3,000,000,000.

Wow.


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