[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]If I hadn't heard the cd, I wouldn't say it makes people want to cry. It has a sad feeling to it, I don't know what else I'm supposed to say.[/QUOTE]
which cd by them did you check out>?

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I'm no longer participating in the "emo" conversation. I don't want an argument, and since I like all of you in here (except Spaceman...;)), I'm ending it on my side now.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
I'm so casting a spell on you to make sure you burn in hell for eternity.


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I don't know...it was a girl's cd...

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]I'm so casting a spell on you to make sure you burn in hell for eternity.


:cool:[/QUOTE]
ooo ooo me next, me next!!!!

[QUOTE=irishslappop]ooo ooo me next, me next!!!![/QUOTE]
:lol:


I can't cast another one for at least 24 hours; those spells take a lot out of me.

Spaceman, you know I love you. ;)

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-Gav

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]:lol:


I can't cast another one for at least 24 hours; those spells take a lot out of me.[/QUOTE]

See my last post...that's why. :p

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-Gav

****it! oh well i guess i can wait one day to suffer then worst pain one can possibly feel for the rest of eternity. oh yeah at school today i had someone tell me i was going to hell because i said president bush was an idiot. that kid got the talking to of his live. i ****ing owned him :p

You better. because I am in the mood. :naughty:

" 'Lets Bee Friends' It says 'bee' and there's a picture of a bee on it!"

^ :lol:

*sigh* I refuse to enter political discussions on this forum. When it comes to politics, I swear I'm the only one who's not an idiot. :p

^ Political *******. I don't know everything that's going on, so someone like JoZ would pwn me.

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-Gav

I like debating about politics. It's the only way I can be serious. Who wants to challenge me :cool:

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]^ :lol:

*sigh* I refuse to enter political discussions on this forum. When it comes to politics, I swear I'm the only one who's not an idiot. :p

^ Political *******. I don't know everything that's going on, so someone like JoZ would pwn me.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
I know stuff about politics, but I don't really like political discussions.

I prefer religion discussions because I argue against them all! MWAHAHAAHHA! :lol:

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]^ :lol:

*sigh* I refuse to enter political discussions on this forum. When it comes to politics, I swear I'm the only one who's not an idiot. :p

^ Political *******. I don't know everything that's going on, so someone like JoZ would pwn me.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
i havent ventured to the politics forum because i know they are just a bunch of dudes looking for a fight there, i should go there and suport bush some time and see how badly i get raped.

[SIZE=7]i dont like bush let this be known![/SIZE]

^ I'm pretty Catholic, but my own Catholic. I don't really listen to the Church. I don't think all homosexuals are going to burn in hell, etc. Those are fascist Catholics. I'm a Catholic Catholic.

Bring it on, man. :p

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-Gav

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]I know stuff about politics, but I don't really like political discussions.

I prefer religion discussions because I argue against them all! MWAHAHAAHHA! :lol:[/QUOTE]
ive adopted coddingtowns religion. worshiping the sun. and making up my own rules. andnot getting raped by priests.

I think the pope is old.

5 minute rebuttal Gav.

i think the pope is dead and they are just using a hologram for him.

I don't like Bush, but I think we need to at least respect him. If he run around saying "BUSH SUCKS" and all that jazz, what does that show other countries about our political system? If we have no respect for the leader then other countries consider us weak.

I'm not for Bush at all, but I think people are taking the hating too far. Bumper stickers saying "BUSH SUCKS?" I mean, come on...honestly. I can see a Kerry/Edwards sticker or something, but that's just disrespect and gives America the bad name it has today.

I think anti Bush people need to chill the heck out, personally. They hate Bush as an excuse to hate something (*looks at Hot Topic kids*).

/ends semi-rant.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=irishslappop]ive adopted coddingtowns religion. worshiping the sun. and making up my own rules. andnot getting raped by priests.[/QUOTE]
Sun worship, stolen from George Carlin.
Anyone steals from George Carlin, anyone quotes him, I will know.

[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]I think the pope is old.

5 minute rebuttal Gav.[/QUOTE]

He is old...:p.

:lol:

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-Gav

What a lame debate...everyone agreed.

Capital Punishment...yay or nay?

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]Sun worship, stolen from George Carlin.
Anyone steals from George Carlin, anyone quotes him, I will know.[/QUOTE]

I'm a Dane Cook guy myself. That man is the funniest thing ever.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]What a lame debate...everyone agreed.

Capital Punishment...yay or nay?[/QUOTE]

Meaning the death penalty? If so, do you want my religious answer, political answer, or both?

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-Gav

I want your opinion.

what does it show other counties about our political system? that is sucks. as indeed, it does. i only say that on the basis that he somehow, on the sun's green earth, that he got reelected.
no disresept gav but i dont think any country considers us weak. we have triple the navy of any other country and all them military to back it up.
i mean, ok im taking this to a personal level here. one of my friends that was 22 that i had know for 10 years, who was my mom's best friend's son, was killed in Iraq. yes he became a soilder on free will, but get this, he was killed on his THRID, count em, THIRD tour of duty. WTF!!?!?! its just ****ing bull**** what he's doing in Iraq and with selective religious spending and favortism. bah im done

I've hated Bush since always.
The thing is, he IS a bad president. He has wasted tons of money with pointless wars. He doesn't care for human rights*, he cannot speak and cannot answer questions without the help of everyone he has surrounded himself with. He bases a lot of what he does on religion, which should not have any place in politics, I think. Religion should not determine how a country is run.
I have more I could say, but this is good for starters.

*banning gay marriage

Oh, I almost forgot, Bush shouldn't have been president in the first place way back in 2000. There was a little cheating going on there; he lost.

^ I'm very torn on the issue.

Religiously, I hate it. Killing someone is NOT what Jesus would do. Jesus was completely against "An eye for an eye." He was about forgiveness. We need to forgive the people and get them help. Everyone was made in God's image and is therefore good. Jesus died on the cross to save everyone from sin. Now it's our turn to help Jesus by helping eachother overcome sin. If we help criminals rather than kill them, we can have a safer, more productive, and overall better society. While some are beyond treatment, we just cannot give up and must keep working. Justice is Christ, and every human has dignity. What is that dignity? God killed His one and only Son, Jesus, for us. Think about that. God, the most loving being ever, SACRIFICED His Son, just for YOU. I think we owe it to God to follow His Law. He wants the best for us, since we are His children. He loves us like the Father He is, and we need to do our best to serve Him.

Politically it makes sense. Prisons are run by tax money. Why should people pay their money to support a criminal's lifestyle? Our taxes feed them, clothe them, keep them warm, etc. Also, why keep the ba[COLOR=WHITE]stard[/COLOR] alive? If he killed someone, I'm sure the family wants him dead. We're in a different society now. Cities are overcrowded, crime is rising, and our prisons are full. An eye for an eye.

Overall, I go religiously here. I'm an extremely forgiving person and believe everyone can change for the better if they just try and have the proper help.

Like I said, I'm a pretty devout Catholic. :)

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-Gav

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]Oh, I almost forgot, Bush shouldn't have been president in the first place way back in 2000. There was a little cheating going on there; he lost.[/QUOTE]
funny how it happened in his brother's state huh?

I agree wth you both 100%. Bush is a poor president, bringing an unneeded war into the war. However, I'm not saying "Don't be against Bush." I just think some of the actions are excessive. I mean, why make a dancing Bush doll that says idiotic statements? THAT I do not approve of. It's a waste of money, goods, and an awful impression of the country.

I'm NOT PRO BUSH at all. I dislike the man as a president, but I'm dissapointed people don't know their limits regarding the protests against Bush.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=irishslappop]funny how it happened in his brother's state huh?[/QUOTE]

Jeb = the worst name ever.

I hope he doesn't run for president. :evil:

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I'm a liberal if you couldn't tell. :p

A liberal nothing. I'm not democratic or republican. Whatever candidate better represents my views I support.

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-Gav

Politically, your argument is flawed in the sense that there is no way to find out for sure if a person is guilty. What we have is a jury, no where near 100% accurate. Even though all odds may be against the defendant, and people are ALMOST sure they did it, there is no way to turn that opinion into a fact. Basically, this would be a hypothesis. What you are doing is killing a person based on an educated guess. How can the government condone killing someone on an educated guess?

[QUOTE=BassVirtuoso]What a lame debate...everyone agreed.

Capital Punishment...yay or nay?[/QUOTE]
Nay.
I think that sitting in prison for 50 years is a much better punishment than just taking your life.
But, the bad thing is how much money it costs to keep people in prison.
And another thing, sometimes the person is found guilty even though they were really innocent, if this person is executed and then it turns out they were innocent all along... then what? An innocent life was just ended.
And not all murders are planned out and not all murderers are psychotic. Sometimes a murder is committed out of necessity.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I agree wth you both 100%. Bush is a poor president, bringing an unneeded war into the war. However, I'm not saying "Don't be against Bush." I just think some of the actions are excessive. I mean, why make a dancing Bush doll that says idiotic statements? THAT I do not approve of. It's a waste of money, goods, and an awful impression of the country.

I'm NOT PRO BUSH at all. I dislike the man as a president, but I'm dissapointed people don't know their limits regarding the protests against Bush.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
hey!!!! here a game we can play!!! What else is a waste of money, and goods, ah hell lets throw in a waste of human life too!!!!!! can anyone guess what it is!!???i'll give you a hint.......the war in iraq. :rolleyes: ****ing bush. sorry gav im one of the **** bush people. i cant help it.
oh did you guys know that for the cost of 4 laser guided smart bombs the education crisis in california could be could be completely solved.....hmm...i think someone has their priorities screwed up *cough* bush *cough*

^ Like I said, this is why I go religiously here.

The Constitution provides [I]Habeas Corpus[/I], the right to a fair trial. Yes, it's not 100% accurate, but it's based on evidence. Evidence doesn't lie, and with our scientific and crimianl advancements (crime labs, etc.), the evidence is much more accurate, compelling, "truthful." Even if the death penalty isn't instituted, the odds are still the same: there is an equal chance of a wrongful conviction.

I don't support the death penalty in real life. If asked to vote I'd be against it. I'm just trying to take the opposing position here. :p

I agree with you BV, but let's keep debating.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=irishslappop]hey!!!! here a game we can play!!! What else is a waste of money, and goods, ah hell lets throw in a waste of human life too!!!!!! can anyone guess what it is!!???i'll give you a hint.......the war in iraq. :rolleyes: ****ing bush. sorry gav im one of the **** bush people. i cant help it.
oh did you guys know that for the cost of 4 laser guided smart bombs the education crisis in california could be could be completely solved.....hmm...i think someone has their priorities screwed up *cough* bush *cough*[/QUOTE]

It's cool, man. :thumb:

And no, I didn't know that. That is an amazing statistic. Source? :amaze:

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-Gav

What am I supposed to be debating about??

^ :lol: I don't know.

/is liberal
/is against the death penalty
/is "prolife" and "prochoice," the situation varies

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-Gav

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]It's cool, man. :thumb:

And no, I didn't know that. That is an amazing statistic. Source? :amaze:

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
just the fact that the education deficate (sp?) is something like 80 million or something and a bunkerbuster big ole, guided bomb is somthing like 18 million, my history teacher brought in an article on it, i'll aks him where he got it from. :thumb:

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< prochoice
< prolife
< antibush
<pro leagalization of marajana :smoke: (hopes to open new debate)