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Retarded Chipple 02-01-2007 10:52 AM

[QUOTE=stevensonmat2;14120512]mine was 30 minutes late last night[/QUOTE]


I bet they were :naughty:

trysthedrummer 02-01-2007 11:33 AM

Rhythmic Illusions dvd is pretty cool BB!


As if you got off school! I went to Georgia last year, then down the east coast to FL

Pleaseme 02-01-2007 12:17 PM

Started listening to Linkin Park again, especially the Reanimation album. Really liking some of the drumming on there, it's pretty heavy and fun. I miss my kit :(

Berk 02-01-2007 12:19 PM

[QUOTE=fishbulb;14118633]Those ddrums are actually better than all of the other ones that i've seen.

Hey drummguy, guitar center had a kit setup with all k hybrids and a 6 piece DW drums. You would have loved it.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.ddrum.com/usacustom_gallery.htm[/url]

Custom shop bitches...

Berk 02-01-2007 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=LedZeppelin1307;14118349]yea, thats why i thought it 28 at first, even without em though...

berk specs on that kit??[/QUOTE]

5.5x14" snare, 20x20" kick, 8x10" tom, and 14x14 floor tom

maniac0796 02-01-2007 12:39 PM

I wish i had a projecter.

I'm thinking of buying:
[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000E192DG/interactiveda85-21[/url]

+ xbox 360 later this year though.

the_pure_drummer 02-01-2007 12:52 PM

How can i count sextuplets effectively at high speeds without losing myself?

maniac0796 02-01-2007 12:55 PM

1 tu tu and tu tu?

Or just learn how to do it in natural feel.

DrumIntoTheNight 02-01-2007 12:56 PM

I count one-trip-let, two hits per syllabel.

the_pure_drummer 02-01-2007 01:00 PM

I tried the 1 tu tu and tu tu method and its quite a mouthfull for me!

maniac0796 02-01-2007 01:01 PM

i use the triplet method but when you get into higher tempos or 16th not triplets (or 8th note sextuplets), you start getting lost.

the_pure_drummer 02-01-2007 01:03 PM

Im trying to count sextuplets out loud at 80bpm. Im trying to find the best method?

*scrathes chin*

maniac0796 02-01-2007 01:04 PM

1 tu tu & tu tu


Is how i would count (i don't have to count cos most of the time i can tell by natural feel) when doing 16th note triplets or 8th note sextuplets.

DrumIntoTheNight 02-01-2007 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=maniac0796;14121006]i use the triplet method but when you get into higher tempos or 16th not triplets (or 8th note sextuplets), you start getting lost.[/QUOTE]

Very true. But then, by the time you're playing at higher tempos, you should really know by feel. Which I suck at :thumb:

Josiah 02-01-2007 01:08 PM

[quote=the_pure_drummer;14121013]Im trying to count sextuplets out loud at 80bpm. Im trying to find the best method?

*scrathes chin*[/quote]


The Tu Tu system.

1 Tu Tu 2 Tu Tu 3 Tu Tu, etc for 8th note triplets.

1 tu tu + tu tu 2 tu tu + tu tu 3 tu tu + tu tu 4 etc for 16th note triplets.


It's Tu, like Tug. Super fast, very stacato, easy to say and no confusion with 4 part counting.




Gah Maniac beat me... good call!

the_pure_drummer 02-01-2007 01:10 PM

I remembered you mentioning that one to me before jo and i tried it for a good 10 mins tonight and i just couldnt get it going.

The best one ive got so far is.........1+2+3+1+2+3+1+2+3+.

maniac0796 02-01-2007 01:11 PM

Heh, maniac beat you, but stole it off you :p

I'd give you rep for such a good system, but i already love you to much :( :)

Another system for 8th notes is:

1+a2+a3+a4+a

Futuro 02-01-2007 01:12 PM

[QUOTE=Pleaseme;14120782]Started listening to Linkin Park again, especially the Reanimation album. Really liking some of the drumming on there, it's pretty heavy and fun. I miss my kit :([/QUOTE]

did you hear the thing they did with jay-z?

Josiah 02-01-2007 01:12 PM

[quote=the_pure_drummer;14121000]I tried the 1 tu tu and tu tu method and its quite a mouthfull for me![/quote]

Any time you are going to have to speak 6 vocal noises per beat at 80bpm it's going to be a mouth full!!

I can barely count 16th triplets at 80. It's so impractical though. NOT Recommend for counting outloud. It becomes a hinderence more then a help.



You gotta establish the feel internally. Work with things at a slower tempo if you still need to count them. Or even count two part, and just think about the triplet notes passing by.


You know if you count 1 + 2 + 3 +, that each is representive of a triplet. And I bet you can play a triplet value is without needing count it out right?

stevensonmat2 02-01-2007 01:49 PM

[QUOTE=Futuro;14121063]did you hear the thing they did with jay-z?[/QUOTE]

Yeah a nice way to rip off dangermouse.

Panopticon 02-01-2007 02:05 PM

OH MY ****ING GOD!!!

You guys are in for a HUGE emm effin treat!

Undisco Kidd 02-01-2007 02:08 PM

:(

keep it in your pants.

Pleaseme 02-01-2007 02:14 PM

[QUOTE=Futuro;14121063]did you hear the thing they did with jay-z?[/QUOTE]

I heard the song the released as..a single I think? Can't remember what it was but I wasn't too keen on it so I didn't buy the album. I was just quite surprised at how groovy some of the remixed tracks off the first album were, so I might go buy the original one. You likey then?

the_pure_drummer 02-01-2007 02:18 PM

[QUOTE]OH MY ****ING GOD!!!

You guys are in for a HUGE emm effin treat![/QUOTE]

PICS [B][U][COLOR="Magenta"][SIZE="7"]NOW[/SIZE][/COLOR][/U][/B]

Panopticon 02-01-2007 02:20 PM

[quote=the_pure_drummer;14121379]PICS [B][U][COLOR=Magenta][SIZE=7]NOW[/SIZE][/COLOR][/U][/B][/quote]

don't yell at me:upset:

the_pure_drummer 02-01-2007 02:22 PM

Sorry.

Please may you post some quality pictures as soon as you feel necasery(sp)?

Undisco Kidd 02-01-2007 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=stevensonmat2;14121227]Yeah a nice way to rip off dangermouse.[/QUOTE]

Moreso pathetic imitation.

TTTSNB 02-01-2007 02:24 PM

[quote=Josiah;14121064]Any time you are going to have to speak 6 vocal noises per beat at 80bpm it's going to be a mouth full!!

I can barely count 16th triplets at 80. It's so impractical though. NOT Recommend for counting outloud. It becomes a hinderence more then a help.



You gotta establish the feel internally. Work with things at a slower tempo if you still need to count them. Or even count two part, and just think about the triplet notes passing by.


You know if you count 1 + 2 + 3 +, that each is representive of a triplet. And I bet you can play a triplet value is without needing count it out right?[/quote]
For sure, I usually just kinda think DahdahdahDahdahdah, etc in my head.

Futuro 02-01-2007 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=Pleaseme;14121360]I heard the song the released as..a single I think? Can't remember what it was but I wasn't too keen on it so I didn't buy the album. I was just quite surprised at how groovy some of the remixed tracks off the first album were, so I might go buy the original one. You likey then?[/QUOTE]

No I don't like linkin park.

stevensonmat2 02-01-2007 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=Porkupine;14121404]Moreso pathetic imitation.[/QUOTE]

Indeed

Berk 02-01-2007 02:49 PM

"Just got my Saludas in.....

I'm 100% disapointed....

There's so many problems...

The cymbals arnt the sizes or anything like I orderd.... they also never returned my cymbal vault.... they arnt the design or look I asked for... they pretty mch did nothing I asked for... nothing.

Unless they fix this now I'm on my way back to zildjian.

I mean jamie was nice at first but towards the end of the purchase he just seemd to stop carrying...

Maybe he will fix all this and they will turn out awesome.... I can sure hope.

Pics later to show and prove my point.

Well they also didn't nail the sound.... even close..

the ... 19... (I ordered a 20")... w/e youd call it sounds like a Zildjian 18" ZBT Rock Crash I had to barrow for a show the other day...

the... 22".. crashride sounds like... well the opiset of what i asked for. Its trashy and sounds like a big gong. Doesnt even sound good as a ride haha.

The hi hats.. I don't even wanna start... They sound just really bad..

I mean Ive played alot of cymbals and Id never wanna bash on a company.. But ive never been more disapointed..

They never sent back my SKB Cymbal vault.. I only sent it there to have my cymbals shipped back in it for more protection... But NOPE. they also werent packaged very nice..

The cymbals arnt very round.. like i have BRAND NEW tama roadpro cymbal stands.. first time bein used actually and the cymbals if you spin them on them they are WAY out of wake. I mean.... to a extreme.

THey just don't sound good..... Like not even for what they ARE they dont sound as good.

I now have to play 2 gigs and record a full length cd with uhh... nothing?

Hopefully I can get a refund... or something...

I mean I don't wanna drive to many people away from saluda.. But.... Play some before you choise them.. Thats where i made a huge mistake. Don't realy on everyone on the forum...

I will now be going right back to zildjian..... where i started...

I have pictures im uploading now showing how the sizes arnt close... and how the hi hats DOnt line up with each other...

I also said no brillant finish...... Thats all i got was brillant.. JAMIE SAID HE COULD DO A K HYBRID LOOK..... i said thats what i want.. THAT.. and well..... they look like earthworks mixed with glory.

Also..... ALot of the "wear" marks to make them look how they are... are actually FINGERPRINTS with a finish over them... gross... looks cheesy and bad.

like said before from someone the edges are sharp and will cut you... I played them for only 10 mins and im pretty sure i just wasted 25$ worth of sticks ha.

All in all.... They didn't do anything I asked for... Not even the finishes or sizes OR sound.. I asked for such a sound that these didn't even come close to. NOT EVEN close. I rather spend the extra on zildjians....

I can't stop going on about this im so upset... 400+ spent and i sent out ALL my old cymbals... all of them... Im left with NOTHING for shows.. studio... practice.. Im in a band that plays out alot and plans to tour soon and put out a cd on a label.

****... i hate to bash on them right in there own thread but... i just wanna warn people.. He will prob post right under me saying all diff but i have emails to prove everything.. and now pictures..

Like i said before maybe they can like... redo the cymbals and they come out amazing and i stick with saluda and everythigns ok... but i can ONLY hope"
[url]http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/showthread.php?t=90267&page=84&pp=12&highlight=saluda[/url]


Thats Saluda For'ya...

stevensonmat2 02-01-2007 02:55 PM

Come back into the zildjian fold :P

Sucks though man, nothing worse then anticipated arrivals being less than expected.

Berk 02-01-2007 02:58 PM

He has nothing now...Pretty much.

Josiah 02-01-2007 03:04 PM

That is a huge bummer Berk. I really hope it works out for you, I'm sure it will. And if not, worse case.. out a lil bit of money and some good lessons learned.


[quote=Berk;14121639]
I mean I don't wanna drive to many people away from saluda.. But.... Play some before you choise them.. Thats where i made a huge mistake. Don't realy on everyone on the forum...
[/quote]


This is why I've been telling people to hear things before you buy them... forever. Internet shopping is great, but not when it comes to instruments you need to hear to decide on.

Also Berk, Not sure where you live but many drum stores rent kits and cymbals. There may also be a backline company in your area. You can rent cymbals, etc nessicary for your recording/gigs if need be.

Berk 02-01-2007 03:13 PM

Uhh I didnt buy the cymbals...

Its just this has what happen to a guy who bought from Saluda..

Thanks anyway.

Josiah 02-01-2007 03:23 PM

Oooh haha I didn't read the whole thing! It was so long.. haha i got partialyl through and was like "ahh geez.."

Berk 02-01-2007 03:25 PM

[QUOTE=Josiah;14121872] "ahh geez.. Give berk sympathy.."[/QUOTE]
<3ujos

Aaron 02-01-2007 03:43 PM

Hai Guys. I'm at an internet cafe. My work has blocked mx, and without a connection at home looks like i'll be on hiatus. Thanks for all the advice you've given, this place is really quite cool.

maniac0796 02-01-2007 04:05 PM

Circumventor is your friend Aaron ;)

Jezen 02-01-2007 04:16 PM

I had an accident on my moped today. Cut up my arm pretty bad. Damaged the moped pretty bad too. It wasn't really my fault. The road was just really slippery in a place that's like a kind of U-turn road.

Totally not cool.


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