[QUOTE=PinkFreud]i was referring to the exclusion of such early virtuosos of jeff beck, john mclaughlin, ritchie blackmore, randy rhoads, and others.

edit: like what!? tapping? because people were doing that before him.[/QUOTE]
i agree each of them were virtuosos in their own rights, but what i mean by this is that he helped pave the way to many 80's "hair-bands" so in that context he did inspire. another thing--who else used tapping in the way he did to the skill level he did, and also he was one of teh first to use tremolo picking in THAT way. aside from some patches by guitarists that he was inspired by(blackmore, clapton, page) he brought these techniques to the forefront and that's now why his techniques are considered mediocre because they were uver-used by those whom HE INSPIRED.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]yeah, you mightve been better off getting the soundtrack. haha.[/QUOTE]

I got the Soundtrack years ago, so I had to see the movie..

I really had no idea how bad RP's teeth were until I saw it :lol:

[QUOTE=Kaleidoscope Eyes]I got the Soundtrack years ago, so I had to see the movie..

I really had no idea how bad RP's teeth were until I saw it :lol:[/QUOTE]
oh god theyre awful. there was one shot of them in the studio and they were like black.

musicpimp: plenty of those i listed used tremolo picking "in THAT way." and you're acting like blackmore and the others WERENT in huge bands that influenced people. believe me, van halen was not the first true virtuoso.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]

musicpimp: plenty of those i listed used tremolo picking "in THAT way." and you're acting like blackmore and the others WERENT in huge bands that influenced people. believe me, van halen was not the first true virtuoso.[/QUOTE]no i agree blackmore, and all those other guitarists were in huge bands that inspired people especially those people affected by VH's music, im just crediting Eddie for the contribution he made, hes not the first virtuoso, hes one of the first that got credit for being one, most pre-van halen guitarists are are better and were never givin credit for it, especially Jimmy Page. I don't think there are many people with the list of talents he's got, including his slide skill, pedal-steel, acoustic-folk music, blues talent along with his producing. LedZep's only recently recieved their first Grammy, and c'mon now Milli Vanilli had one:amaze:

Yeah, d00d.

[QUOTE]were never givin credit for it, especially Jimmy Page.[/QUOTE]

BIG FU[size=2]CKING LULZ![/size]

Maybe I should explain. Jimmy Page gets all the credit he needs, and maybe a little more.

[QUOTE=MusicPimp]no i agree blackmore, and all those other guitarists were in huge bands that inspired people especially those people affected by VH's music, im just crediting Eddie for the contribution he made, hes not the first virtuoso, hes one of the first that got credit for being one, most pre-van halen guitarists are are better and were never givin credit for it, especially Jimmy Page. I don't think there are many people with the list of talents he's got, including his slide skill, pedal-steel, acoustic-folk music, blues talent along with his producing. LedZep's only recently recieved their first Grammy, and c'mon now Milli Vanilli had one:amaze:[/QUOTE]
can i buy some drugs off of you? because you MUST have some good ones.

led zeppelin were ****ing HUGE man. how can you even say that page wasnt recognized in all seriousness? and there are better guitarists than page. you're not winning this argument. i suggest you stop and just try to integrate yourself into our community. your user name won't make it easy.

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]can i buy some drugs off of you? because you MUST have some good ones.

led zeppelin were ****ing HUGE man. how can you even say that page wasnt recognized in all seriousness? and there are better guitarists than page. you're not winning this argument. i suggest you stop and just try to integrate yourself into our community. your user name won't make it easy.[/QUOTE]
Page wasn't given credit FROM THE MUSICAL COMMUNITY, ofcourse he was by his fans(those who gave him "all the credit he needed and more") his fans knew he was great, and clearly there are better GUITARISTS than him, but they mostly speciallize, he reached a broader crowd and that's what i'm saying. and by the way---my user name was just some **** i pulled out of my *** while i was filling out the damn form, i didnt purposefully ripp-off some band or their music after working my *** off to try and think up something "clever" like some people on this.

yes, of course. you certainly seem like a deep thinker from what ive read of your posts.

page still got huge amounts of credit and support from the musical community. i dont even know what youre trying to say here, its obviously wrong.

edit: and i assume youre referring to MY user name, which didnt really take very long to think of. ive also received COMPLIMENTS on it. from girls too. so take that!

[QUOTE=PinkFreud]yes, of course. you certainly seem like a deep thinker from what ive read of your posts.

page still got huge amounts of credit and support from the musical community. i dont even know what youre trying to say here, its obviously wrong.

edit: and i assume youre referring to MY user name, which didnt really take very long to think of. ive also received COMPLIMENTS on it. from girls too. so take that![/QUOTE]
i wasnt referring to YOUR name, i just know there are some people who do try very hard to be "clever" and since you didnt try hard i suppose it doesnt apply to YOU.---its like when people use song lyrics for an MSN screenname for example. and attempt to claim it as their own.

[QUOTE] Page wasn't given credit FROM THE MUSICAL COMMUNITY[/QUOTE]

Before he formed Zeppelin, he was one of the most sought after session guitarists in England, jackas[size=2]s[/size].

to MisterBlueSky (I think) - .m4a is fine with me, thanks :wink:

to robo - I like the new avvy/UT.

On Deep Purple - They may not be the deepest band, but if you want fast, hard classic rock, they're your bet. #1 song to get pumped up to - Fireball

On Jimmy Page not getting credit or something - Ummm... he may not get much credit now, but he was pretty recognized back then. I think the problem in this thread is that people are mixing up recognized-for-good-music and recognized-because-of-being-pop-icon (like Milli Vanilli). Led Zep were popular for sure, but they weren't...pop. In other words, they weren't in the mainstream (mostly because they didn't release many singles at all, and none in the UK), but were popular with true music fans. I have a feeling that if for some reason Clear Channel execs wanted to resurrect their music and could get Swan Song to give song rights, the music would become immensely popular in the mainstream, with the advent of iTunes and CDs, they wouldn't need just radio time, but the fact is that now they won't bring them back, because music is going in a new direction, and that direction is away from pretty much all things classic rock.

New discussion - Has anyone heard John Paul Jone's two solo albums? I've heard they are awesome, but I can't find them anywhere.

np: Happiest Days/ABitW pt. II - The Floyd

I used to love to bury myself in an arguement and keep arguing. Twas one of my favorite hobbies as a noob

Zeppelin was definately recognized during there time, just because they didnt have a number one hit until the 90's does not changes this fact. There are a lot of well recognized bands today that dont have a number one hit.

Trav - What was it that you wanted? I'm sorry, I forgot.

[QUOTE=BigTrav415]
New discussion - Has anyone heard John Paul Jone's two solo albums? I've heard they are awesome, but I can't find them anywhere.

[/QUOTE]
i haven't seen any of his.....I have heard good things about the new robert plant cd as well tho
and the page/plant unledded dvd from 2004 is pretty sweet

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Trav - What was it that you wanted? I'm sorry, I forgot.[/QUOTE]
Revolver... what else you got :suspiciousness:

np: Stairway To Heaven (first time in like 6 months I think)

[size="5"]1600 posts fool!!1[/size]

[QUOTE]Revolver... what else you got :suspiciousness:[/QUOTE]

A little crack, a little weed....

ahem.

Um, I dunno. Throw something out. I'm feeling generous.

Hey, whaddya know, Revolver's in mp3 anyway. haha

Erm... any Grateful Dead? (studio or live, and bootlegs are A+++ on my book)

Oh I remember, I need some Who. I have 7 Who songs (Live At Leeds would be nice :winkz:

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Before he formed Zeppelin, he was one of the most sought after session guitarists in England, jackas[size=2]s[/size].[/QUOTE]
you guys keep misunderstanding what i'm saying. okay, i know. in the early sities, it was estimated that jimmy page was involved in almost 60% of music coming out of the UK. that does not mean he was credited with the title of virtuoso by record companies, even though his fans know he's amazing. by this i mean, since their first real critical acclaim came as their first and only Grammy which was recently given to them. Zeppelin was HUGE. Page was one of the most sought after guitarists. but was not recognized by his superiors(the ones sellign the records and marketing the albums he released, and the ones that would've established him as a "virtuoso")

I swear, you have the crappiest sentence wording I've ever seen.

[QUOTE]Page was one of the most sought after guitarists. but was not recognized by his superiors(the ones sellign the records and marketing the albums he released, and the ones that would've established him as a "virtuoso")[/QUOTE]

All the record companies knew that Zeppelin was a good band and that Page was a great guitarist. Hell, some of them were afraid that they were going to be put out of business because of Zeppelin. Also, the record companies don't label guitarists as "virtuosos", the fans do.

[QUOTE]Oh I remember, I need some Who. I have 7 Who songs (Live At Leeds would be nice :winkz:[/QUOTE]

I don't have Live At Leeds, but I have Tommy, Who's Next and Quadrophenia. Take your pick. Oh, and one of those 20th Century Masters albums I got for my birthday last year.

[QUOTE]Erm... any Grateful Dead? (studio or live, and bootlegs are A+++ on my book)[/QUOTE]

Aoxomoxoa, their s/t, and Anthem of the Sun, although I only have Aoxomoxoa ripped to my computer.

[QUOTE]aside from sammy hagar and michael anthony van halen is well rounded[/QUOTE]

Sammy Hagar is actually looked at as a talented vocalist. He certainly had much more ability and range than DLR.

[QUOTE=MusicPimp]you guys keep misunderstanding what i'm saying. okay, i know. in the early sities, it was estimated that jimmy page was involved in almost 60% of music coming out of the UK. that does not mean he was credited with the title of virtuoso by record companies, even though his fans know he's amazing. by this i mean, since their first real critical acclaim came as their first and only Grammy which was recently given to them. Zeppelin was HUGE. Page was one of the most sought after guitarists. but was not recognized by his superiors(the ones sellign the records and marketing the albums he released, and the ones that would've established him as a "virtuoso")[/QUOTE]
I'm seriously just wondering, where did you hear the stat about the 60% thing? I want to see that. And I think you are overestimating the importance of awards. They don't mean anything for the most part except that you managed to kiss enough cheek to get your one hit wonder over-produced triple-tracked synthesized "song" played 35 times a day in heavy rotation on BOB 93.3, the home of today's awesome cool Top 40 hits!!1 Led Zeppelin stated many times that they didn't care much about awards and stuff, they just made music, and music is what they did, perform, record, write, and repeat. That's why there is very little known about the actual band, they were notorious for staying away from the press, like quite a few bands of that day.

Just kidding Trav, you don't have a choice. I'm uploading Revolver, Aoxomoxoa, and Quadrophenia right now all in 1 zipped folder. I hope to God you don't have dial up because it's 196 megs.

Edit: See you guys at 5 or something, this is gonna take me a while to upload.

Sounds awesome :)

(/me has wireless \m/ now all I have to worry about is it "skipping up" on me in the middle of the dl :(

Eddie Van Halen did not really "invent" any of those techinques. Tremolo picking and tapping were things people were doing, but Eddie made it mainstream and put it out there.

AotS, s/t and Aoxomoxoa are good albums. :)

[QUOTE]LedZep's only recently recieved their first Grammy[/QUOTE]

Yup, nothing says more about an artist's standing in the music community quite like a Grammy.

[QUOTE]Eddie Van Halen-perhaps the first true virtuoso[/QUOTE]

Django Reinhardt, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Richie Blackmore...the term "guitar virtuoso" is thrown around more often than you would imagine.

Also, we'd better not mess with "MusicPimp", guys. He's pissed off. At [i]government[/i]. That says one thing: "Bada[size=2]ss motherfuc[/size]ker".

[QUOTE]New discussion - Has anyone heard John Paul Jone's two solo albums? I've heard they are awesome, but I can't find them anywhere.[/QUOTE]

I haven't heard them, but I do know that he was on the acoustic disc of the new Foo Fighters album, and the acoustic stuff sucked.

[QUOTE=Illmatic]Also, we'd better not mess with "MusicPimp", guys. He's pissed off. At [i]government[/i]. That says one thing: "Bada[size=2]ss motherfuc[/size]ker".[/QUOTE]
i wanted a wallet like the one in pulp fiction but i didnt want to spend like 40 bucks on one.

"Gimme my wallet"

"Which one is it?"

"The one that says badass motherf[FONT="Verdana"]ucker."[/FONT]

:)

I saw one on eBay for sale once.

[QUOTE=JonG]"Gimme my wallet"

"Which one is it?"

"The one that says badass motherf[FONT="Verdana"]ucker."[/FONT]

:)

I saw one on eBay for sale once.[/QUOTE]
Ive actually heard about those wallets being available. I have also heard that almost every Smauel L jackson movie has something with BMF on it; in Episode three it was supposedly on Mace's lightsaber

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]/waits for RNR to chew him out for not listening to Bon Scott-era AC/DC[/QUOTE]

I don't even like them anymore, and I think Bon was better.

I think almost every thirteen year old boy goes through an AC/DC phase :lol:

np: Syd Barrett - Golden Hair

Animals is slowly but surely developing into my favorite Floyd album. I've had hte tunes on my comp for a while but something happened to them, so I picked this album up for my B-day. It's solid song after solid song.