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i am the robots 01-10-2008 07:55 PM

I know, I was just helping you with your silly wording.

i am the robots 01-11-2008 01:41 AM

Okay, so Drowningman is definitely epic as hell, thanks Concubine.

Concubine 01-11-2008 01:46 AM

= )

i am the robots 01-11-2008 01:51 AM

I'm wondering if there's anything like Emmure that's actually pulled off well. Like a meloidic metalcore band with really heavy breakdowns, but actually good.

EDIT: Drowningman is kind of like Contrived, but in a completely different genre.

Concubine 01-11-2008 02:00 AM

i never listened to Emmure

when you say melodic metalcore, you mean stuff like Fordirelifesake, Shai Hulud?

i am the robots 01-11-2008 02:09 AM

I'm talking more metal-melodic metalcore. Like, Killswitch Engage type stuff, but I guess really heavy breakdowns instead of clean choruses. I just wanna know if a release of the sort exists outside of The Acacia Strain's second album that's actually good.

Concubine 01-11-2008 02:42 AM

hmm i don't listen to that type of stuff so i can't help you

i am the robots 01-11-2008 03:16 AM

Yeah, it's a really gay style, but when it's done right, it's orgasmic, though I've only ever heard it done right once. The next closest thing would be Through The Eyes Of The Dead, I'd say, but they're too death metal.

beans 01-11-2008 01:09 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15823172]Yeah, it's a really gay style, but when it's done right, it's orgasmic, though I've only ever heard it done right once. The next closest thing would be Through The Eyes Of The Dead, I'd say, but they're too death metal.[/QUOTE]

the newer TTEOTD? cause the old is more twords deathcore, with thier other vocalist

botb 01-11-2008 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=bunit9488;15824695]the newer TTEOTD? cause the old is more twords deathcore, with thier other vocalist[/QUOTE]

TTEOTD is epic as crap. Their older release was better but the new one has some ridiculous stuff too. As Good As Dead is a must hear song. it's incredible.

botb 01-11-2008 01:37 PM

[QUOTE=masscows;15820614]I knew what the song was about before I even heard it (as if the title isn't obvious enough). The lyrics are so good too.[/QUOTE]

I think it's because I have a friend named Giles and I just always thought it was funny that he had a song named after him when his name was so off the wall. But he's probably named for Giles Corey and I never made that connection either :P

illpressureurhinges1 01-11-2008 03:15 PM

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;15824817]TTEOTD is epic as crap. Their older release was better but the new one has some ridiculous stuff too. As Good As Dead is a must hear song. it's incredible.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't get why everyone likes them. I even saw them live and wasn't very impressed.

beans 01-11-2008 03:26 PM

[QUOTE=bringonthebreakdown;15824817]TTEOTD is epic as crap. Their older release was better but the new one has some ridiculous stuff too. As Good As Dead is a must hear song. it's incredible.[/QUOTE]

..so are you saying they have a few good songs but overall they're not that good?

i am the robots 01-11-2008 03:31 PM

[QUOTE=illpressureurhinges1;15825366]I honestly don't get why everyone likes them. I even saw them live and wasn't very impressed.[/QUOTE]
I've seen TTEOTD at least 5 times, unfortunately never with Rich on guitar and once with Dayton on drums... all I can say is, up until they kicked out Anthony, their live show was the most incredible thing ever... I caught them on their first headlining tour (November 2006), got to scream with Anthony, got pulled on stage for Beneath Dying Skies, etc., then I saw them their next headlining tour (June 2007, with Nate) and it was the most monotonous garbage I've ever seen.

This is Through The Eyes Of The Dead:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=H8i1QRRukwQ[/url] (the second song is especially amazing)

This is not:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=cmPJl1lNLYU[/url]

Note the only member in common is the rhythm guitarist?

beans 01-11-2008 03:53 PM

ill agree they were a much better live band with anthony as a vocalist, see i like nate's vocals better but he just doenst bring the ruckus like anthony did. damn shame...

i am the robots 01-11-2008 04:02 PM

Nate's growl's too grunty and his highs are too forced, and his mids are too forced, but Anthony never warmed up, so you never knew if his vocals would sound right, or if his voice would just go all over his range (examples: accidental pig squeals instead of low inhales, even more ball-lessly high screams).

Regardless, Nate's terrible but still has a career in music, while Anthony's going into the marines. Moral of the story: don't go see your best friend's band when your own band has a show scheduled the same night.

beans 01-11-2008 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15825571]Nate's growl's too grunty and his highs are too forced, and his mids are too forced, but Anthony never warmed up, so you never knew if his vocals would sound right, or if his voice would just go all over his range (examples: accidental pig squeals instead of low inhales, even more ball-lessly high screams).[/QUOTE]

i actually enjoy his lows and mids but i agree with his highs they do feel a bit forced. i did enjoy anthony's a lot too though

masscows 01-11-2008 05:17 PM

nate johnson is such a bad vocalist...I might not care so much about his lack of range if their music wasn't so bland now though.[quote=bunit9488]he just doenst bring the ruckus like anthony did[/quote]is this a scene phrase or something? why do scene kids talk like hip hoppers?

i am the robots 01-11-2008 05:23 PM

I think it's in reference to As Blood Runs Black's one breakdown (which dummies fail to recognize as a Wu-Tang Clan reference in the first place).

Iluvatar 01-11-2008 05:23 PM

its a ****ing wu phrase yo

bring the mutha ****ing ruckus

i am the robots 01-11-2008 05:24 PM

Yeah, that.

LifeInABox 01-11-2008 05:25 PM

Even I knew that, and according to Robots, I'm a knowledgless user.

beans 01-11-2008 05:26 PM

haha ok dude, im about as far from scene as it can get, why does everything on these damn forums have to be so fu*king serious?
ok...nate is a pretty good vocalist i dont deny that. "With Nate in the band they dont have the live energy they once did."

[QUOTE]I think it's in reference to As Blood Runs Black's one breakdown (which dummies fail to recognize as a Wu-Tang Clan reference in the first place).[/QUOTE]

and i wasnt referencing to ABRB at all
and i wouldnt know about the wutang clan cause i dont listen to them

Iluvatar 01-11-2008 05:26 PM

[quote]Even I knew that, and according to Robots, I'm a knowledgless user.[/quote]

Yeah, [i]now[/i] you know.

TimJim 01-11-2008 05:27 PM

Enter Shikari=amazing

LifeInABox 01-11-2008 05:28 PM

No, my friend was singing it and I asked him if he like As Blood Runs Black and he said what the hell are you talking about that's a Wu Tang song :lol:

beans 01-11-2008 05:46 PM

[QUOTE=Hbp;15826033]No, my friend was singing it and I asked him if he like As Blood Runs Black and he said what the hell are you talking about that's a Wu Tang song :lol:[/QUOTE]

the wutang did that? damn im suprised ABRB has any credibility whatsoever anymore lol

i am the robots 01-11-2008 06:26 PM

[QUOTE=Hbp;15826033]No, my friend was singing it and I asked him if he like As Blood Runs Black and he said what the hell are you talking about that's a Wu Tang song :lol:[/QUOTE]

YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGABLE

Fact is, I was listening to Wu-Tang when you were in diapers bro (literally).

Monticello 01-11-2008 06:31 PM

Does anyone know about this Architects split with Dead Swans? I can't get on Architects site and Dead Swans don't have one.

i am the robots 01-11-2008 06:36 PM

[url]http://myspace.com/thedeadswans[/url] ?

It comes out on the 26th or 29th I forget.

The Dead Swans are awesome though.

Monticello 01-11-2008 06:42 PM

That only says it's coming out in February.That'll do for now i spose.
And they are purdy.

i am the robots 01-11-2008 06:47 PM

I misread it as Jan on the Architects myspace.

Their headline: "Split E.P with Dead Swans - coming Feb 25th!"

botb 01-11-2008 06:48 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15825435]I've seen TTEOTD at least 5 times, unfortunately never with Rich on guitar and once with Dayton on drums... all I can say is, up until they kicked out Anthony, their live show was the most incredible thing ever... I caught them on their first headlining tour (November 2006), got to scream with Anthony, got pulled on stage for Beneath Dying Skies, etc., then I saw them their next headlining tour (June 2007, with Nate) and it was the most monotonous garbage I've ever seen.

This is Through The Eyes Of The Dead:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=H8i1QRRukwQ[/url] (the second song is especially amazing)

This is not:
[url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=cmPJl1lNLYU[/url]

Note the only member in common is the rhythm guitarist?[/QUOTE]

see even mappy's backing me up and usually he completely makes fun of me! i must have said something right.

botb 01-11-2008 06:49 PM

[QUOTE=TimJim;15826029]Enter Shikari=amazing[/QUOTE]

they can be alright but they are one of the most overrated bands ever. Rou's lows are laughable. probably the most pathetic attempt at harsh vocal lows i've ever heard.

2muchket! 01-11-2008 06:50 PM

Those bastards aren't coming to the north of england again on the tour

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO CANADA.

Just ergh.

Monticello 01-11-2008 06:51 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15826394]I misread it as Jan on the Architects myspace.

Their headline: "Split E.P with Dead Swans - coming Feb 25th!"[/QUOTE]

Oh, sweet, thanks.

i am the robots 01-11-2008 06:58 PM

Word. Goddamn, I need to get my hands on that split.

2muchket! 01-11-2008 07:03 PM

I can just go down to Hmv and buy it for like £5 so am sorted for it

as for enter shikari they're a decent band especially live. But this is coming from a person who besides being a big metal likes trance and rave just as equally so am a bit biased.

As for Rou, his lows have me rolling around laughing on the floor. If you like that sorta music but with decent screaming then I highly recommend Flood Of Red and Dividing The Line.

LifeInABox 01-11-2008 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=i am the robots;15826307]YOU ARE SO KNOWLEDGABLE

Fact is, I was listening to Wu-Tang when you were in diapers bro (literally).[/QUOTE]

That's nice. I don't like rap much.

i am the robots 01-11-2008 07:42 PM

Damn, bro, your'e so mettle.
[QUOTE=Frankie;15826471]I can just go down to Hmv and buy it for like £5 so am sorted for it.[/QUOTE]
Damn Britons.


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