[QUOTE=George;14146864]Yes! That's EXACTLY what I was thinking.


Have you played it in real life? If so, how does it compare to the sound clips?[/QUOTE]

um, I played one in jazz and pep bands as my main crash for all 4 years of high school.

So no, I haven't played it in real life. ;)

I hate you so much. :-*



But really, how does it compare to the clips?

Man, i went to GC last week and saw a used 17" A Custom crash. It was beautiful, looked brand new and sounded exactly how i wanted it to. It was for $130 and new it is $200. Don't know why i didn't buy it right there, but i didn't. I went back yesterday and of course, it's gone. I was looking on Music Go Round and i saw one for $99 but it didn't have any pictures. I e-mailed him and he said that it already sold. I was looking again and saw a 18" for $99, but again no pictures. E-mailed them just to see how it looks, but i might want to hold out for a 17" because after listening to sound samples, that's the one that sounds the best to me.

On a side note, how much does the sound change from cymbal to cymbal. Example: Two 17" A Custom crashes next to eachother, i know they do differ, but is it a huge amount or barely noticeable?

[QUOTE=George;14147009]I hate you so much. :-*



But really, how does it compare to the clips?[/QUOTE]

never listened to the clips.

Its just....godly good.

To fishbulb, it won't be a huuuuge differenece, but there'll be a little difference in them.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;14147543]never listened to the clips.

Its just....godly good.[/QUOTE]


then listen and give a brother some help.

It also depends on the model. Two A Customs will sound a bit more similar because they are made to be consistent whereas two Ks could be quite different.

Just by sound samples the 17" A Custom and 17" A Custom Projection are almost the same. Basically the same overtones but a little bit different sounding initial crash at the beginning.

The projection has more bite to it, I think that would be the only difference. Tine wise I think they stay the same for the most part.

I find the A Custom sound samples to be the most accurate.


That's what my buddy's Projection sounds like.

[QUOTE=fishbulb;14147708]Just by sound samples the 17" A Custom and 17" A Custom Projection are almost the same. Basically the same overtones but a little bit different sounding initial crash at the beginning.[/QUOTE]

The projection crash has a bit more power and body behind it. It's probably not a very good description but it's the only way I can think of. I thought the pitch was every so slightly lower, or at least the overtones were, but I could be wrong; the Sabian sound clip comparison thing is soo much easier to use than the Zildjian one, and takes about half the time to load. My impression was the projection crash was less 'shimmering', if that means anything :S

However, this is from memory so I could be wrong.

edit: I can't commment on the normal a custom, but the projection sound clip is pretty accurate,.

[QUOTE=Zildjian;14136912]You sir want A customs or 2oo2's for the crash

and Avedis 20" Medium for that good crash and good ride[/QUOTE]

Thanks.

What are Avedis crashes like? Also, how would those 2 crashes you suggested fit with the K dry ride, as I'm only a student so my capital resources are limited (i.e. it takes me a long time to get the money for 1 cymbal, let alone 2 :)) so getting the crash I wouldn't get the ride for ages (I mean a [I]long [/I]time). How do you reckon an A custom 16 fast crash would go? or the AAX dark crash?


Cheers guys


EDIT: by the way, is an a custom medium crash the same as a 'regular' or 'normal' crash?

The Medium crash is in between the regular A Custom and the projections.

I'm going to hold out to get a 17" regular A Custom. One just came out on ebay but it has a small dent in it so i don't want it.

ooo 17" A customs are da bomb!!!

Yeah dude, 17" are the perfect size. Enough energy to make it dark and full and powerful, but small enough to be a bright crash with great overtones.

I found one on ebay starting at $89 but it has a week left of bidding so i hope i can get it.

And nobody screw me out of this deal either.

20" K Heavy Ride
vs
22" K Custom Dark Ride

Used as my jazzier ride (over my 20" A ping ride) needs good bell sound and general dry tone.

[QUOTE=London Prophet;14169265]20" K Heavy Ride
vs
22" K Custom Dark Ride

Used as my jazzier ride (over my 20" A ping ride) needs good bell sound and general dry tone.[/QUOTE]

the Heavy will sound fairly close to the Ping.

I'd go with a 20" K Regular Ride, those are pretty nice.

Yes!


proud owner, yo.

I'm looking for a Dark crash, kind of funky, but like a gushhhh low sound.
Edit: it could be a ride if so.

Try either the K Dark crashes or the Oriental Crash of Doom.

I dont wnt any thing too trashy though.

Oh, then no Oriental COD. Still check out the K Darks.

There is an AAX dark crash, which is a fair bit cheaper than the K/custom darks, but it will probs have a rather different sound, but probably worth a look.

[QUOTE=Seafroggys;14169340]the Heavy will sound fairly close to the Ping.

I'd go with a 20" K Regular Ride, those are pretty nice.[/QUOTE]

True, I don't know what the K custom dark ride is like, but the K (and K custom for that matter) normal rides are very good sounding.

The K custom dry ride (which I have) is pretty jazzy, has a beautiful dry tone and a potentially powerful & cutting bell sound, so you could look into that. The volume on the main body can't really get all that loud, and it has very limited crashability, but if it's in addition to an A ping ride then maybe that's what you want.

I'm in the market for a new china. Most chinas I've played are too short in decay and worked better for short accents. I'm looking for one that has long sustain and a dark, trashy, low tone. The sound I'm looking for you can hear in Unearth's "Endless" around 54 seconds in. Any suggestions?

Maybe a Crash of Doom? I know its not a china but it might have the sound? Also larger chinas?


-Ant-

A big heavy china?

20" z custom?

Wuhans. get a 22".

k hi hats? They good for jazz, funk, latin, and fusion? I'm thinking about getting some. I listened to the k/z specials but they sounded muddy to me.