Can someone give me a better explanation of hardcore please? I mean 'some hardcore bands are straight edge, some have breakdowns' doesn't really tell me a lot, no offence. I mean how can you hear whether a song is hardcore/metalcore/metal/grind/etc?

Refer to page 1, but here's a quick definition...

Hardcore= Faster, harder punk, often with screamed vocals (Give Up The Ghost, [URL=http://www.purevolume.com/scrapsandheartattacks]Scraps And Heart Attacks[/URL], [URL=http://www.purevolume.com/theprocedure]The Procedure[/URL], [url=http://www.purevolume.com/comebackkid]Comeback Kid[/url])

Metalcore= Hardcore fused with metal. A lot of bands are starting to lean towards metal and it is hard to here the hardcore in them. ([URL=http://www.purevolume.com/wallsofjericho]Walls Of Jericho[/URL], early Poison The Well, early Avenged Sevenfold)

Grindcore= Eh, I'd rather not take this one because I'm not sure of which bands are true grind but, I believe bands like Napalm Death, Agoraphobic Nosebleed and Cattle Decapitation are considered "true" grind. Then you have the newer wave of grind which is a bit hard to classify. Bands like The Locust, Daughters and The Tony Danza Tap Dance Extravangza are not true grind, but definitely have some grind in them. Grind is getting pretty varied also. You can go from the hardcore grind sounds The Locust to the almost Death Metal growls of The Red Chord.

Discerning Metal from Metalcore= As I said, metalcore is a fusion of metal and hardcore. But most of the mainstream/fashioncore metalcore bands of today (Atreyu, Bleeding Through, Eighteen Visions) are starting to lose the hardcore in them. When listening to Bleeding Through or Norma Jean, it's hard to pick out the hardcore, essentially making them a metal band. I think Buddy puts it best when he does his metalcore reviews, labeling them "Metalcore/Melodic Metal." Though it might sound strange to call Atreyu Metal (especially to metal fans), Metal is the genre they are closest to. Many extreme metal fans shun this because, in my opinion, metal has become a duel of which bands are the darkest, fastest and heaviest, leaving no room for Atreyu. So metalcore has become a little storage place for bands that fall somewhere between hardcore and metal, even though most of them are in reality "metal" bands. In Walls Of Jericho's music, you can hear both metal and hardcore, making them a true metalcore band. Compare [I]Distance Makes The Hear Grow Fonder[/I] Poison The Well with [I]You Come Before You [/I] Poison The Well. You Come Before You is truly a metal album, while Distance Makes... is pretty much true metalcore. But the point is, melodic metal bands that are "not hard enough" to be placed in the metal genre are being thrown into metalcore. Just as the definition of screamo has morphed, the definition of metalcore is also.

[QUOTE=MILF Hunter]What are some other bands like them, recommend songs aswell please[/QUOTE]

In My Eyes, Black My Heart, Nothing Gold Can Stay, Kids Like Us, the Contender, The Warriors, Where Fear And Weapons Meet.

Just get whatever you can, really.

[url]http://www.purevolume.com/caseyjones[/url]

Hahaha, I just listened to that and I was like "What the f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck is this? This is hardcore?"

God, Comeback Kid is good.

I found a couple more cool bands

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/thebinarycode]The Binary Code[/url]
Cool Tech Metal band, sounds like BTBAM/Ion Dissonance.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/derringer]Derringer[/url]
Cool hardcore band.

[url=http://www.purevolume.com/thebinding]The Binding[/url]
Mediocre grind band.

[QUOTE=cbmartinez][url]http://www.purevolume.com/caseyjones[/url]

Hahaha, I just listened to that and I was like "What the f[SIZE=2]u[/SIZE]ck is this? This is hardcore?"

God, Comeback Kid is good.[/QUOTE]
Haha, different Casey Jones.

[QUOTE=MILF Hunter][list][*]What genre are Casey Jones? (HxC, Metalcore etc..)[*]What are some other bands like them, recommend songs aswell please[*]Where can I find lyrics for them[/list]
Thanks[/QUOTE][list][*]They are a hardcore band. [*]Kids Like Us, Traitor, Black Cross[*]They have some lyrics on their hxcmp3 site. Just try and listen, usually you can figure it out.
[url]http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1532/[/url][/list]

[QUOTE=Sk8SkaNJ][list][*]They are a hardcore band. [*]Kids Like Us, Traitor, Black Cross[*]They have some lyrics on their hxcmp3 site. Just try and listen, usually you can figure it out.
[url]http://www.hxcmp3.com/bands/1532/[/url][/list][/QUOTE]
Black Cross?? They don't really sound like Casey Jones...good band though.

Yeah I know, I was just kind of struggling to find more bands similar. The first two I listed he would probably like though.

A few pages back we were talking about Comeback Kid's new album...they actually have gone into the studio.

From [url]www.comeback-kid.com[/url]

10.16.04
This is what we have been up to lately. So we're in the studio right now recording our second full length, which we hope to have our in Febuary of 2005. The whole expirence so far has been unreal. We'r recording at The Blasting Roomin beautiful Fort Collins, Colorado with Bill Stevenson and Jason Livermore. Things are coming along amazingly.

So I guess the album is on the internet. Time to go a pirating.

How do these things get leaked?

I doubt it was leaked yet, but if anyone finds it, tell me.

Casey Jones lyrics make them sound like asses, but i'm in love with them anyway.

[QUOTE=Skrunnch 3]Casey Jones lyrics make them sound like asses, but i'm in love with them anyway.[/QUOTE]
When I saw them live they said they weren't trying to force straight edge on anybody and their lyrics are a joke.

[QUOTE=NewKindofArmy03]I doubt it was leaked yet, but if anyone finds it, tell me.[/QUOTE]
I checked on mIRC and SoulSeek on Thursday night, still nothing.

[QUOTE=PlasticGangster]When I saw them live they said they weren't trying to force straight edge on anybody and their lyrics are a joke.[/QUOTE]
I wonder if Casey Jones will ever come to canada?

[QUOTE=noneed66]I wonder if Casey Jones will ever come to canada?[/QUOTE]
Me and my friend showered them with emails and try convincing the local venue to give them an email or call?

casey jones is pretty sweet, they sound alot like Holden Caulfield, if anyone's into them.

the industry?

in a band with evan are ya?

[QUOTE=SickOnTheBusYouCunt]the industry?

in a band with evan are ya?[/QUOTE]

what the sauce are you babbling about? my name is a Bled reference

haha, you're from ct, another poster here is from ct, in a band named the industry

whoah ho hoah! yeah, thats cool. who

[QUOTE=BleedthesKY]the Contender[/QUOTE]This guy rules.

[QUOTE=PlasticGangster]Me and my friend showered them with emails and try convincing the local venue to give them an email or call?[/QUOTE]
I emailed them they said they will probly come this summer.

In Stride
 

Hardcore from Vancouver, you can download there whole demo.

[url]http://www.kclange.com/instride/[/url]

theyre pretty good, but my favorite local hardcore would have to be anything out of CT. our hardcore owns, and you all know it. we're rockin bands like The Risk Taken (whos drummer I go to school with), A Thousand Falling Skies, Hatebreed, With Honor, Among the Fallen, Call to Arms, and For All It's Worth, to name a few

I've got "The Wilting" by A Thousand Falling Skies.. It's awesome.

Werd

Props on mentioning the Contender, Bleed.