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lost_profits 10-25-2005 02:23 AM

Songs,

Longest to grow on me:

When?
Dirge For November
Beneath the mire
Moonlapse Vertigo
The Amen Corner
Weakness (Opeth's eeriest song)

Least fav:

Harlequin Forest
The Grand Conjuration
Death whispered a lullaby
The Funeral Portrait
Karma
Godhead's lament

epihasi 10-25-2005 04:36 AM

I think DIRGE is like a song sung at a funeral or something. Not sure, though

Shadows 10-25-2005 05:14 AM

As taken from an online dictionary:

"a song or hymn of mourning composed or performed as a memorial to a dead person"

epihasi 10-25-2005 06:25 AM

So, I was pretty much right then?
Anyway, anyone loooveee Credence like me?
That song is easily on one of the top spots of acoustic songs EVER for me.

DuncMaster 10-25-2005 07:08 AM

How come nobody has Bleak in their best lists? It's ****ing awsome.

RouteOne 10-25-2005 08:22 AM

[QUOTE=Det_Nosnip]OOoook....So, I saw Opeth on saturday...

Pretty cool show. For some god-forsaken reason, Opeth decided to play at the White Rabbit in San Antonio, which is...well...not a very well run establishment. I guess that they've been trying to take it up a notch since I lived in SAT, but when I lived there back in High School, it was basically this little club that mostly hosted local acts...very rarely a touring act or two. The stage was rather pitifully small, and the room wasn't huge either. This meant that there were a LOT of people crammed into a rather tight space, which was kind of uncomfortable. The crowd was basically a giant seething mass of people pushing against eachother for the entire show, and I took quite a few unnecessary kidney shots as a result. On the plus side, I was within 5 feet of Opeth for pretty much the entire show.

Anyways, when I got there, they couldn't find my will call ticket. After searching for a bit, the woman in charge asked if I had a confirmation number, which I gave....and she just told me to go in, without verifying it or anything. I probably could have walked into the ****ing place without paying with that kind of management....there was no security, nobody checked for weapons or anything....in the back of my mind, I was worried of a Dimebag incident.

Fireball Ministry was a pretty fun band....good ole Southern rock/doom metal kind of sound. Some pretty cool riffs and overall a good set, although by the end I was starting to get tired of it. Pelican was a very interesting band...I was definitely impressed with their set. Kinda reminded me of a cross between Isis and Mastodon in some ways, albeit sans vocals.

But, of course, the band I was there to see was Opeth. The White Rabbit owned up to my preconceptions of its ****tiness, and it kinda took a while before Opeth was ready to go on. Plus, they had no curtain or anything to cover the stage while this was going on as alot of clubs do, so it kind of killed the atmosphere watching the stage crew run through the sound test. :rolleyes:

By the time Opeth came on, everyone was getting rather impatient, so it was a nice relief. They opened with "Baying of the Hounds." The band seemed a little unsure at first, and the guitars were far too quiet, so the beginning of the song didn't go as well as a song like BOH could have. Opeth were tight as hell and they performed everything flawlessly, but the feeling wasn't really there in the beginning.

I think the band really found their voice once it got to the quieter sections of the song. Once the song kicked back into the heavy sections after the first interlude, the intensity was really there, and it felt great.

Next, I believe they played 'When'. I'm not as big a My Arms....fan as some (great album, don't get me wrong...but not my favorite by any means), so it wasn't as big of a deal for me, but hey...it's Opeth.

I can't remember what exactly happened next....I think my setlist was the same as Kage's. They played Bleak, which was ****ing AWESOME, and they also played "In My Time of Need," which was sweet. Mikael said something about how everyone in the band was really ugly, so they needed to make an album to get chicks, which was why they made Dam nation. :D
He also urged us to sing along, and most of the people in the room did, so that was cool.

The Grand Conjuration was ****ing awesome. I don't care if people don't like it, it was easily one of the highlights of the evening. Mikael opened with his usual dry humor, saying "This is the sound of hell...well, it doesn't SOUND like hell, but it is hell," trying to convey that the song was capturing that atmosphere while clarifying that he wasn't trying to say that it was a bad song. ;) Anyways, the atmosphere was really intense on it...the chorus grunts were just brutal as hell, and it was just a really great performance as a whole. What was great was that the lights completely went out at the ending of the song....I assumed at first that the lighting crew did this on purpose for effect, but I guess the lights really did go out! ...Maybe Satan did it. Either way, it worked wonderfully, intentional or not. Those who dislike Ghost Reveries should probably reserve their judgements until after hearing it performed live.

Face of Melinda came next, and was really sweet. The absence of Martin was somewhat more strongly felt here....although whatshisname pulled off most of the set really well (pretty much note for note, actually), FOM is one of the songs where the HOW is somewhat more important than the WHAT, and therefore alot more difficult to emulate. Nevertheless, it was still pretty cool.

Deliverance would be another major highlight of the evening. That song is easily one of the band's all time greatest live songs, and it was just as awesome as ever. This was one of two songs that were performed at SOTU, so it was my second time hearing them play it, and it was just as great.

For Blackwater Park, the band did a facetious little demonstration of the song's beat, Mikael saying "ok, now, get ready to headbang to that for 13 minutes straight." :lol: While this was somewhat of an exaggeration (the song has quite a few different sections other than that one main one), it was pretty funny nonetheless.

I knew that they were going to play Demon of the Fall as an encore, so it wasn't too big of a surprise, but it was as fun as ever. Such a great track.

Anyways, the absence of Martin and overall ****iness of the White Rabbit marred an otherwise great performance, but as a whole I definitely had a good time. I was really impressed with Martin Mendez's playing....I've always respected him as a musician, but seeing him live and that close was really awesome. He really grooves very hard, something that is rare among metal players and seems to be largely overlooked. As a drummer, Mendez is the sort of bassist that I really feel would be amazing to jam with. It really made me that much more aware of how great Opeth was because of that dual Martin rhythm section....although whathsname from bath got the job done, it simply wasn't the same. The Martins have played together for so damn long and are so incredibly tight...I really really hope that Lopez gets better, as the band is pretty much perfect IMO right now with the current lineup.

I took a few pics and 1 very short video during Face of Melinda (I was too scared to lose my camera for most of the rest of the show, as it was pretty nuts in there), so if anyone wants to see 'em, let me know.[/QUOTE]


Wait, isn't the white rabbit a ambiant band?

Kage 10-25-2005 11:08 AM

Det, nice concert review. Ours went generally the same, it seems, with the same set lists and some of the same jokes (haha). Although the venue that they played in here was great. I'd never been there, but it's the best venue I've been to, aside from Verizon Wireless, but Opeth isn't big enough to play there, plus tickets in that venue usually cost at least $35, so everybody won.

Also, the opening of BoH was awesome for me. Deliverance was certainly a highlight, but all I really remember from Grand Conjuration was getting pulled into probably the craziest mosh pit I'd ever been in. I normally like to just watch the band play and focus on the music, but the energy was too much.

And your comments on Fireball Ministry are the exact same as my thoughts on them. Pelican, though, is one of my favorite bands, and their set was amazing, I thought.

i am the robots 10-25-2005 11:23 AM

Wow, Det, that review fecking pwns, I don't see why you hate small venues for those reasons though, watching the crew do the sound check isn't a big deal at all, but the guitars being too quiet was, that happened at the Stirling when I went to see 3 Inches of Blood... Jamie Hoopers mic was so quiet for the first song that you could only hear Cam's vocals, but other than stuff like that, small venues own, they're cheaper, the atmosphere is more personal, and if you go outside after the show, you have a really good chance of meeting some band members.

killa_bees77 10-25-2005 11:38 AM

Hey guys, new opeth interview. I dont know if its been posted yet, but here ya go for your listening pleasure.

[url]http://www.toazted.com/artistinfo.php?artist=694[/url]

Det_Nosnip 10-25-2005 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Wow, Det, that review fecking pwns, I don't see why you hate small venues for those reasons though, watching the crew do the sound check isn't a big deal at all, but the guitars being too quiet was, that happened at the Stirling when I went to see 3 Inches of Blood... Jamie Hoopers mic was so quiet for the first song that you could only hear Cam's vocals, but other than stuff like that, small venues own, they're cheaper, the atmosphere is more personal, and if you go outside after the show, you have a really good chance of meeting some band members.[/QUOTE]

Small *well run* establishments are great. Textbook example: the House of Blues. I've been to a ton of shows at the HOB in Chicago, and I love the ****ing place. You would be amazed at how much goes into a concert experience that the band has absolutely no control over...God knows what was actually going on on-stage. When you get a place like the White Rabbit, you basically have a bunch of incompetent fools who simply aren't good at what they do. I didn't mention what happened to the people who crowd-surfed at the venue...this one guy got dragged off stage by his NECK. I wouldn't be surprised if he sued the place, and I wouldn't blame him, either.

shamed-angel 10-25-2005 04:39 PM

[QUOTE=I Am Vikingcore]Wow, Det, that review fecking pwns, I don't see why you hate small venues for those reasons though, watching the crew do the sound check isn't a big deal at all, but the guitars being too quiet was, that happened at the Stirling when I went to see 3 Inches of Blood... Jamie Hoopers mic was so quiet for the first song that you could only hear Cam's vocals, but other than stuff like that, small venues own, they're cheaper, the atmosphere is more personal, and if you go outside after the show, you have a really good chance of meeting some band members.[/QUOTE]
I've been emailing Jamie quite alot recently...

Kaiwaz 10-25-2005 05:08 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]Deliverance really is a work of art. I don't get why people don't like it, its better then some of their other stuff, easily.[/QUOTE]


I absolutely love it, you know that though, I haven't met one person that doesn't like it. I think there was one poster once a while back that didn't like the album. I don't know, It's a badass album.:evil:

Darkness 10-25-2005 05:10 PM

Most people just seem to think its underpar, or that Ghost Reveries blows it away... I disagree with this. :p

Shadows 10-25-2005 05:11 PM

I have mixed feelings on it.

Kaiwaz 10-25-2005 05:17 PM

Because of Opeth's growth in style, and range, their fans vary along with their tastes on which albums they prefer. It's all good, I love you all. :D

Toaster 10-25-2005 05:19 PM

Deliverance is in my top three, partly due to the vocals. People say they're badly produced- I say they're cooler.

Kaiwaz 10-25-2005 05:27 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]Deliverance is in my top three, partly due to the vocals. People say they're badly produced- I say they're cooler.[/QUOTE]


Whoever said they're poorly produced lacks severe musical talent.

Darkness 10-25-2005 05:29 PM

I agree, nothing beats the gut renching screams he does at near the end of Wreath. Then has the clean vocals doing kinda back up vocals... thats just awesome. :D

RouteOne 10-25-2005 05:29 PM

Opeth is probably the worst band ever.

shamed-angel 10-25-2005 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]I absolutely love it, you know that though, I haven't met one person that doesn't like it. I think there was one poster once a while back that didn't like the album. I don't know, It's a badass album.:evil:[/QUOTE]
IMO A tie between that and The Leper Affinity for the best song they've ever written.

Toaster 10-25-2005 05:32 PM

[QUOTE=.:~ Route 1 ~:.]Opeth is probably the worst band ever.[/QUOTE]

i no eh tthey r teh suck. pure n00bage !!!!!111 lawlz



Seriously, ShadowsFallen what program do you use for drumming? Would Beatcraft (the free one) work if I put it to a WAV file?

EDIT: I meant for the thrash contest thing.

Shadows 10-25-2005 05:33 PM

I use an actual drum machine. Any program should work, as long as you can export the drum track as a .wav file. You're using Audacity right?

RouteOne 10-25-2005 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]i no eh tthey r teh suck. pure n00bage !!!!!111 lawlz



Seriously, ShadowsFallen what program do you use for drumming? Would Beatcraft (the free one) work if I put it to a WAV file?

EDIT: I meant for the thrash contest thing.[/QUOTE]
:naughty:

I feel dirty for blasphemeing against Opeth.:upset:

Toaster 10-25-2005 05:37 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]I use an actual drum machine. Any program should work, as long as you can export the drum track as a .wav file. You're using Audacity right?[/QUOTE]

I don't know what Audacity is, frankly. I'm using a digital 4-track, playing to a click track, then putting that on Sony Acid.. Then I'm using the Beatcraft (hopefully) to just follow that click track and put it all together somehow. :p I've never used a drum program to record before, needless to say.

If there's an easier way, don't be shy. :) Thanks.

Shadows 10-25-2005 05:39 PM

Well, I've never used a drum program on a computer, so I don't right off the top of my head. But if you have any specific questions, go ahead and ask, I'm I'll be able to help in some way. :)

Toaster 10-25-2005 05:49 PM

[QUOTE=ShadowsFallen]Well, I've never used a drum program on a computer, so I don't right off the top of my head. But if you have any specific questions, go ahead and ask, I'm I'll be able to help in some way. :)[/QUOTE]

I'll get back to you- I need to find out if I can merge the two files somehow..

ok lateralus 10-25-2005 06:21 PM

Bump

Opeth is awesome

Darkness 10-25-2005 06:29 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Bump

Opeth is awesome[/QUOTE]
Not necissary, since we have about 232 pages of that.

Shattered_Future 10-25-2005 06:33 PM

Lots of talk about Deliverance, but none about By The Pain I See In Others.

Anybody else like this? It's probably one of my favorite tracks...the fingerpicking is amazing, Mikael is butt evil on vox, and the riffs are great as well. Severely underrated track.

i am the robots 10-25-2005 06:47 PM

Yes, that song is quite fantastic IMO.

Killtacular 10-25-2005 07:12 PM

I love [i]Deliverance[/i]. All of it.

Greatness. So heavy, yet so great.

ok lateralus 10-25-2005 08:33 PM

[QUOTE=Scruples]I love [i]Deliverance[/i]. All of it.

Greatness. So heavy, yet so great.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, actually kind of funny that it's labeled their "HEAVY" album yet 1/3 of the songs are without death metal vox. Heh. The rest is pretty heavy though. A fair Judgement will always be my favorite.

Darkness 10-25-2005 08:36 PM

I think its their heaviest...

ok lateralus 10-25-2005 08:42 PM

[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]I think its their heaviest...[/QUOTE]

Yeah me too, except for AFJ and FAF

Toaster 10-25-2005 09:03 PM

[QUOTE=Shattered_Future]Lots of talk about Deliverance, but none about By The Pain I See In Others.

Anybody else like this? It's probably one of my favorite tracks...the fingerpicking is amazing, Mikael is butt evil on vox, and the riffs are great as well. Severely underrated track.[/QUOTE]

I don't think its underrated.. although the album as a whole is somewhat underrated. Its an awesome song, but I thought the ending was poor. It seems really disjointed and strange, although the screaming is sweet.

Darkness 10-25-2005 09:04 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]I don't think its underrated.. although the album as a whole is somewhat underrated. Its an awesome song, but I thought the ending was poor. It seems really disjointed and strange, although the screaming is sweet.[/QUOTE]
The song does start to fall apart at the end, but that kinda adds to the whole insanity feel of the song.

i am the robots 10-25-2005 09:05 PM

I love Deliverence, but I love the other albums more.

Kaiwaz 10-25-2005 09:22 PM

[QUOTE=ok lateralus]Yeah me too, except for AFJ and FAF[/QUOTE]


Please type the full song name, what's so hard about that? It's not a chat room. You have plenty of time to type, not to mention you used punctuation in that sentence. :p


[QUOTE=Darkness Of Greed]
The song does start to fall apart at the end, but that kinda adds to the whole insanity feel of the song.[/QUOTE]


Are you talking about the song [I]Deliverance[/I]? I think it builds up [I]to[/I] the end. That last riff makes the song, in my opinion. That riff is so mesmerizing!

Toaster 10-25-2005 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=Flynn]
Are you talking about the song [I]Deliverance[/I]? I think it builds up [I]to[/I] the end. That last riff makes the song, in my opinion. That riff is so mesmerizing![/QUOTE]

By the Pain I See in Others.

Kaiwaz 10-25-2005 09:27 PM

[QUOTE=toaster135]By the Pain I See in Others.[/QUOTE]


It fades out with double bass...how is that [I]falling apart[/I]? That song is so lethal.


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