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DisposableHeroes 08-19-2004 02:46 PM

hell, he may even have died anyway of cancer from his smoking. Or had a bad acid trip and gone nuts

Iplaythegeeeeetar! 08-19-2004 03:20 PM

you know, i realise why cliff is so high up there in the ranks as a bassist: he was fast and really good at writing music. pulling teeth really wasnt,IMO, his best. his best, to me, is his solo in the metallica vault thing.

Triangle 08-19-2004 03:22 PM

I cant get into that Metallica vault thing... darn St.Anger cd in Europe not being shipped with a serial number...

YellowShirt 08-19-2004 03:34 PM

metal sucks my D I C K
 
METAL SUCKS ALONG WITH METALLICA i want to kill every member of metallica but i cant cus they aren't even a real band they just replace there members with others.... real bands have one lineup and when that lineup ends ITS OVER BITCH

guitarfrog 08-19-2004 03:38 PM

[QUOTE=AllIDoIsHammerEverything]Well i know this, James said so himself that if Cliff were still alive, then the Loads (Load and ReLoad) would have bee released a lot sooner. Everyone else in the band was listening to metal and punk, while cliff listened to slower stuff like REM and so forth. And cliff obviously had a huge influence on the band. So maybe, we wouldnt have AFJA and Black Album, and maybe metallica wouldnt be as popular as they are. Ya never know.[/QUOTE]

load/relaod were more mainstream

cliff hated all that mainstream bull****

jackz53 08-19-2004 03:55 PM

i have a question regarding the new metallica, and dont get mad if its already been answered, but im not gonna read all 276 pages. also, this isnt to make fun of metallica or anything, i am a big fan myself. my question is:

why did metallica stop doing guitar solos and why does lars's snare drum sound so bad?

any answers would be appreciated, again this is an honest question, no harm meant

jackz53 08-19-2004 03:57 PM

[QUOTE=YellowShirt]METAL SUCKS ALONG WITH METALLICA i want to kill every member of metallica but i cant cus they aren't even a real band they just replace there members with others.... real bands have one lineup and when that lineup ends ITS OVER BITCH[/QUOTE]


you're an idiot, you probably think 'simple plan' and 'yellowcard' is real music...and why would you make fun of metallica in an official thread, where you'll get made fun of

Kingofdudes 08-19-2004 04:11 PM

[QUOTE=YellowShirt]METAL SUCKS ALONG WITH METALLICA i want to kill every member of metallica but i cant cus they aren't even a real band they just replace there members with others.... real bands have one lineup and when that lineup ends ITS OVER BITCH[/QUOTE]

A LOT of bands go through lineup changes, many bands go through more than them

Triangle 08-19-2004 04:13 PM

[QUOTE=YellowShirt]METAL SUCKS ALONG WITH METALLICA i want to kill every member of metallica but i cant cus they aren't even a real band they just replace there members with others.... real bands have one lineup and when that lineup ends ITS OVER BITCH[/QUOTE]
idiot... :lol:

iwant_taquitos 08-19-2004 06:04 PM

[QUOTE=jackz53]i have a question regarding the new metallica, and dont get mad if its already been answered, but im not gonna read all 276 pages. also, this isnt to make fun of metallica or anything, i am a big fan myself. my question is:

why did metallica stop doing guitar solos and why does lars's snare drum sound so bad?

any answers would be appreciated, again this is an honest question, no harm meant[/QUOTE]


my only guess is that since hetfield got out of rehab, some of the material he and/or the rest of metallica have written was based on what James was going through before or during his time in rehab. and i think that would be hard to put a solo to... and the drums are probably just something lars thought went good with the song, but im probably wrong since im clueless when it comes to drums. well, this is just a thought.

guitarfrog 08-19-2004 06:17 PM

[QUOTE=YellowShirt]METAL SUCKS ALONG WITH METALLICA i want to kill every member of metallica but i cant cus they aren't even a real band they just replace there members with others.... real bands have one lineup and when that lineup ends ITS OVER BITCH[/QUOTE]

when cliff burton died, metallica had to change their lineup. not becuae they suck, but becuase they lost their bassist (which wasnt their fault) so they needed a new bassist. so you are saying they shouldve just given up and quit after it just because their bassist was gone? if they quit, they would be a buch of pathetic loonies, who cant do anyhting about whatever happens. but no, they were strong, and continued being a band, despite the tragedy that happened. they hired a new bassist, and made great albums like AJFA and TBA. giving up just because your lineup changes is pathetic. you have to be strong no matter wht happens. and quit posting such bull****. :angry:

RIP cliff burton

Zmev 08-20-2004 04:07 AM

So I saw Some Kind of Monster today. It was a good film that tells how most of st anger was made. It really explained why some songs were made lyrically (sweet amber for national radios that hassled them, some kind of monster for them lyrically making a frankenstein out of all the diff parts he mentions durring it, all within my hands for jasons departing of the band/james's way fo showing affection by not letting them leave). They had things about why there were no solos and i guess when the band was at that emotional state where they need like 2 therapists regularly i guess chemistry can be hard to come by. Overall good movie 8/10

Kreator 08-20-2004 04:52 AM

yay i'm back...

... what's the metallica song with the hardest rhytm guitar?

The Bell Tolls 08-20-2004 05:35 AM

[QUOTE=jackz53]i have a question regarding the new metallica, and dont get mad if its already been answered, but im not gonna read all 276 pages. also, this isnt to make fun of metallica or anything, i am a big fan myself. my question is:

why did metallica stop doing guitar solos and why does lars's snare drum sound so bad?

any answers would be appreciated, again this is an honest question, no harm meant[/QUOTE]

I belive that it was because they wrote the songs in a different way, i watched a documentary about st. anger and metallica (on all the other albums) had wrote thier songs in thier own time and brought them in for the rest of the band to perfect it. but for st. anger bob rock (the producer) just gave them some paper and told them to write, it was all forced out of them, everyone knows that thats not a way to write good music.

Kreator 08-20-2004 05:46 AM

lol are you from my forum?

DisposableHeroes 08-20-2004 05:59 AM

[QUOTE=The Bell Tolls]I belive that it was because they wrote the songs in a different way, i watched a documentary about st. anger and metallica (on all the other albums) had wrote thier songs in thier own time and brought them in for the rest of the band to perfect it. but for st. anger bob rock (the producer) just gave them some paper and told them to write, it was all forced out of them, everyone knows that thats not a way to write good music.[/QUOTE]

curse that Bob Rock :upset:

Zmev 08-20-2004 08:13 AM

[QUOTE]I belive that it was because they wrote the songs in a different way, i watched a documentary about st. anger and metallica (on all the other albums) had wrote thier songs in thier own time and brought them in for the rest of the band to perfect it. but for st. anger bob rock (the producer) just gave them some paper and told them to write, it was all forced out of them, everyone knows that thats not a way to write good music.[/QUOTE]

Yet it was pretty emotional

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 08:17 AM

[QUOTE=jackz53]i have a question regarding the new metallica, and dont get mad if its already been answered, but im not gonna read all 276 pages. also, this isnt to make fun of metallica or anything, i am a big fan myself. my question is:

why did metallica stop doing guitar solos and why does lars's snare drum sound so bad?

any answers would be appreciated, again this is an honest question, no harm meant[/QUOTE]

Because Kirk "doesn't need to prove anything" (whatever that means.)

And Lars is a disgustingly bad drummer, who chose a bad snare, is all.

metallicambria 08-20-2004 08:49 AM

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)[/QUOTE]


seek and destroy
four horsemen
hit the lights
metal militia
jump in the fire
and justice
blackened
until it sleeps
feul
i dissappear
outlaw torn
some kind of monster...kind of has a groovy feel to it

metallicambria 08-20-2004 08:53 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]Because Kirk "doesn't need to prove anything" (whatever that means.)

And Lars is a disgustingly bad drummer, who chose a bad snare, is all.[/QUOTE]


lars is a great drummer...when they were recording kill em all ...he couldnt keep time for ****...but in the 80's he worked at it alot and got better...but i admit...he's jus a 5'2 retard born in denmark...i think wat happened was that he saw james and kirk and bob rock detuning like...down to c and was like " a duhhh....uhh...let me give that a try guys....and then he jus wacked his snare with a drum key like a baby bangin on the ground with a spoon and was like yeah...pretty cool there dudes" :lol:

Against Miik! 08-20-2004 08:54 AM

Lars was never a spectacular drummer. Anybody who loves Metallica is a bit biased, but if you really listen, there isn't anything special there. He just keeps time.

Zmev 08-20-2004 09:00 AM

Dyers Eve

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 09:27 AM

[QUOTE=i am miik]Lars was never a spectacular drummer. Anybody who loves Metallica is a bit biased, but if you really listen, there isn't anything special there. He just keeps time.[/QUOTE]

Thank you :)

national_chaos_jolliffe 08-20-2004 09:38 AM

metallica influenced me so much
 
yea i just had to say how much metallica influenced me into playing music....

jolliffe

Kingofdudes 08-20-2004 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=i am miik]Lars was never a spectacular drummer. Anybody who loves Metallica is a bit biased, but if you really listen, there isn't anything special there. He just keeps time.[/QUOTE]

word

Metallica fanboys need to learn that they are not the most talented band ever.

Blodstrupmose 08-20-2004 09:44 AM

Lars was experimenting on St. Anger! Thats why they sound funny! He wanted a slightly bit more hollow sound! Anyway: Just because you are from Denmark you can actually be a good musician!

My friend of misery is a quite nice song as well as master of puppets!

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 09:52 AM

[QUOTE=KingofDudes]word

Metallica fanboys need to learn that they are not the most talented band ever.[/QUOTE]

Actually, RHCP fans annoy me more in that sense.

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 09:55 AM

[QUOTE=Blodstrupmose]Lars was experimenting on St. Anger! Thats why they sound funny! He wanted a slightly bit more hollow sound! Anyway: Just because you are from Denmark you can actually be a good musician!

My friend of misery is a quite nice song as well as master of puppets![/QUOTE]

He may have wanted it, but it sounded like shyte.

jpj 08-20-2004 09:57 AM

i'd like to listen to some metallica. what is a good cd of their's?

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 09:57 AM

Master of Puppets
Kill 'em All
Ride The Lightning

Anything other than those isn't really worth the time, unless you like happier stuff.

Kingofdudes 08-20-2004 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=jpjrulestheworld]i'd like to listen to some metallica. what is a good cd of their's?[/QUOTE]
Any of their first 4

Killem all
Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
..And Justice for All

jpj 08-20-2004 10:00 AM

thanks

Blodstrupmose 08-20-2004 10:10 AM

hey you're offending me now :p I'm RHCP and Metallica fan! why do you hate 'em? :thumb:

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 10:19 AM

It's not all RHCP or Metallica fans, just ignorant ones.

I just hate when RHCP fans start saying

"Chad Smith is the best drummer!"
"Flea is the best bass player!"
"John is the best guitarist"

ETC

Just like I hate when Metallica fans try to defend Lars' incessantly horrible drumming, or Kirk's uncreative solos.

Just because they are a famous band or your favorite band, doesn't make the musicians "the best."

Thats all :D

Blodstrupmose 08-20-2004 10:22 AM

Naah of course not the best but I think that Flea is a quite nice bass player and I think that Lars is a good drummer as well!

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 10:24 AM

Flea is a fine bass player...but Lars...?

Lars can barely keep time, let alone come up with good fills.

Blodstrupmose 08-20-2004 10:28 AM

Yeah but in the same time: Metallica music is not made for the big drumfills! I think he does his job quite well!

Paranoidd 08-20-2004 11:17 AM

:confused:

Metallica plays metal...

Their old stuff was similar in some respects to Slayer and Sepultura (early thrash)

And if you look these days

Igor Cavalera > Lars
Dave Lombardo >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lars

iliketoplaydrums10111 08-20-2004 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]:confused:

Metallica plays metal...

Their old stuff was similar in some respects to Slayer and Sepultura (early thrash)

And if you look these days

Igor Cavalera > Lars
Dave Lombardo >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lars[/QUOTE]

What the hell, it's no comepetition between Lombardo and Lars, Lars sucks

If there was it be more like

Dave Lombardo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lars

Come on, get your facts straight :)

Blodstrupmose 08-20-2004 11:59 AM

Yeah shure they play metal but Lars doesn't play like he thinks he's the best drummer in the world! He plays as he can! (okay i'm defending him kinda because I'm Danish to :P )


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