[QUOTE=Med57][i]The Wall[/i] is great, and it's probably my favourite Floyd album, but it gets dragged down by the second half of Disc 1, which is clearly the weakest bit of the album in my opinion. The one lyrical weakness that the album has in my opinion is the repetition. Obviously that's part of the big idea, but it drags occasionaly for me on songs like [i]Empty Spaces[/i] and [i]Goodbye Cruel World[/i] which I don't think are really actually needed. But yeah, it's an amazing album lyrically for the most part.[/QUOTE]

I actually disagree on Empty Spaces. I really think its one of their best songs, and although I do think it gets dragged down a bit in the middle of disk one, its still probably my favorite album ever.

Yeah. Empty Spaces, man. It's so dark and, beautiful.
The Wall Disk 1 is the better one. Although both is amazing, Side 1 has the more striking songs. Ohh. The Wall.

I prefer the second disc. I think it's cool how he builds the wall, etc. etc. on disc 1, but the major draw into the plot of The Wall for me was the isolation and the insanity that is caused by the wall. So for me, disc 1 is sort of the preparation for disc 2.

For me, disc 1 has the better songs, but the songs flow together better on disc 2.

I think disc 1 is more consistent, but disc 2 has some absolutely incredible tracks. Overall, I probably prefer disc 2.

why isnt hey you in the movie??? :confused:

they only have panzers breaking free, i think?

Although Disk 2 is amazing, I'm so sick of it, cause it's in my mom's car. So everytime we ride with here, we listen the same songs. We're too lazy to put Disk 1 in. Shame on us. :rolleyes:


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I don't think either is more consistent, I just think disc 2 is all around better. Hey You>Is There Anybody Out There? is amazing.

I really need to pick up The Wall..looks like I'm buying 2 Floyd CDs this weekend.

Definitely pick up the Wall. It's well worth it. The Wall is what got me into PF initially.

don't get the wall, its overrated and inconsistant, save comfortably numb and a few others, get DKSOTM/WYWH/M(DLE)/A(MLS)/ or any other pink floyd abulm, except the final cut, which blows :smoke:

[QUOTE=Jean Chrétien]don't get the wall, its overrated and inconsistant, save comfortably numb and a few others, get DKSOTM/WYWH/M(DLE)/A(MLS)/ or any other pink floyd abulm, except the final cut, which blows :smoke:[/QUOTE]


I disagree with this post in it's entirety.

The Wall is NOT inconsistent, whatever that means, and The Final Cut is brilliant, albeit a bit depressing. It's got some excellent composition, and is lyrically one of Waters best.

Explain your opinion on these inconsistencies in the Wall?

[QUOTE=Jean Chrétien]don't get the wall, its overrated and inconsistant, save comfortably numb and a few others, get DKSOTM/WYWH/M(DLE)/A(MLS)/ or any other pink floyd abulm, except the final cut, which blows :smoke:[/QUOTE]

Why would any Pink Floyd fan tell someone not to get The Wall? Even if it isn't your favourite PF album (it isn't mine by a longshot), it's still a great album. Whenever I wanna listen to that album, I just watch the movie. Unless I'm in my car, then I put on the casette. I've only listened to that album like five or so times on vinyl....never on CD! :amaze: I just realized that.

edit- and some people need to learn the difference between "filler" and songs that are important to the theme of the album, despite not being the best songs.

Most people don't agree with my choice of favorite album, but I think Meddle is Floyd's best. Echoes is 23 minutes of pure brilliance.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]edit- and some people need to learn the difference between "filler" and songs that are important to the theme of the album, despite not being the best songs.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. Just because a song is short doesn't mean it doesn't serve a purpose in the album as a whole.

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]I disagree with this post in it's entirety.

The Wall is NOT inconsistent, whatever that means, and The Final Cut is brilliant, albeit a bit depressing. It's got some excellent composition, and is lyrically one of Waters best.

Explain your opinion on these inconsistencies in the Wall?[/QUOTE]

123. I listened to The Final Cut last night through headphones, while laying in my bed, in the dark. That album kicks some major ***. Absurdly underrated.

[QUOTE=Lunch]I don't think either is more consistent, I just think disc 2 is all around better. Hey You>Is There Anybody Out There? is amazing.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Disk has plenty of songs that can really stand out on their own, in the form of Hey You, Nobody Home, Comfortably Numb, Run Like Hell and The Trial. I also prefer it from a plot stand point, although disk one is still amazing, and I can see why some prefer it.

the wall might be worthwhile as a concept, as a story, or as a movie, but as a collection of songs (which is what an album is, as far as I'm concerned), it doesn't hold up. the quality of the [I]music[/I] is wildly inconsistant (comfortably numb vs... maybe... waiting for the worms, anyone?). it does tell a cohesive story, but insofar as it tries to be cohesive musically, it pales in comparison to DSOTM, WYWH, and even animals. musically speaking, the worthwhile material would make a good single cd, but strung out over two, the album becomes painful, not masterful

werd nuccas :smoke: :chug:

I got animals this weekend and its quickly becoming my favorite floyd cd. I love it. Which cd should I get next though. Ive got animals, DSOTM, WYWH, the wall, and PATGOD.

MEDDLE, NUCCA :smash:

Each of Floyd's albums have a unique quality which forces me to listen to it as if it were it's own.

So, I tend to not go back and compare song for song off Animals with song for song off Meddle for example. Floyd aint like that.

Waiting for the Worms tells it's story just as any other song would, and the lyrics are fairly significant.

[QUOTE=DBoon's Ghost]Waiting for the Worms tells it's story just as any other song would, and the lyrics are fairly significant.[/QUOTE]

which may be true, but the music sucks :wave:

Waiting for the Worms is a great song IMO.

And why does an album have to be a "collection of songs"? Why can't it be viewed as a story like a book or movie can be? Certianly the Wall should only be analyzed from that standpoint. To enjoy the album you have to buy into the plot, because the music itself doesn't hold up. However, what makes it a great record is that there is a plot and an overall theme which makes up for any musical inconsistencies. If you view the Wall as just 26 songs put on a double album, of course there is nothing to like about it. That's why you need to view it as a single entity.

I'd say the wall was very consistent, albeit consistantly dull.

I can't even bear to listen to the final cut, ro momentary lapse of reason.

[QUOTE=Jean Chrétien]MEDDLE, NUCCA :smash:[/QUOTE]

Yeah, Meddle's great.

[QUOTE=Med57]I just don't see the fuss about [i]Echoes[/i] really. Sure, it's a good song, but it's not the best on [i]Meddle[/i] in my humble opinion (I rather like [i]Saint Tropez[/i]), and compared to their other epics it does lack something. [i]Dogs[/i] is an extraordinary song though. Lyrically that album has Waters at his best I always think, as the nastiness that's in quite a lot of Floyd's music comes out better in it without ever going over the top.[/QUOTE]
Dogs just doesn't keep me fully intrested- its just santana style solo after solo. I feel that echoes allows the full band to shine, and off the top of my head i can't think of anything i would change about it.

[QUOTE=PinkZeppelin27]I got animals this weekend and its quickly becoming my favorite floyd cd. I love it. Which cd should I get next though. Ive got animals, DSOTM, WYWH, the wall, and PATGOD.[/QUOTE]

Saucerful of Secrets and Meddle for sure. Animals is my least favourite 70's Floyd album.

[QUOTE=thickasabrick]Saucerful of Secrets and Meddle for sure. Animals is my least favourite 70's Floyd album.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I don't like Animals. What do people find so appealing about it?

The musical ownage from WYWH mixed with the strong negative lyrics from the Wall (though Animals isn't as strong musically as WYWH).

[QUOTE=Lunch]Waiting for the Worms is a great song IMO.

And why does an album have to be a "collection of songs"? Why can't it be viewed as a story like a book or movie can be? Certianly the Wall should only be analyzed from that standpoint. To enjoy the album you have to buy into the plot, because the music itself doesn't hold up. However, what makes it a great record is that there is a plot and an overall theme which makes up for any musical inconsistencies. If you view the Wall as just 26 songs put on a double album, of course there is nothing to like about it. That's why you need to view it as a single entity.[/QUOTE]

Except, the music itself does hold up.

SOYCD would have been much more musical ownage, had there been 1 less guitar solo before the verses. It's an early form of wankage.

So there was a rumor in the halls today that Pink Floyd was going to play at the React concert (or whatever its called) to benefit the New orleans flood.

I knew it was bullsh[b][i][/b][/i]it from the get-go, but I still had one small teeny weeny hope that Floyd would play just one last concert...

/is tired

[QUOTE=DeusExMachina]Yeah, I don't like Animals. What do people find so appealing about it?[/QUOTE]


I love animals. I don't know, I just think it's really great. The solos are so incredible, and even though the songs are really long, they don't seem to drag on at all.

NP: Dogs

[QUOTE=Shazzam]So there was a rumor in the halls today that Pink Floyd was going to play at the React concert (or whatever its called) to benefit the New orleans flood.

I knew it was bullsh[b][i][/b][/i]it from the get-go, but I still had one small teeny weeny hope that Floyd would play just one last concert...

/is tired[/QUOTE]

It's the kind of thing Floyd would play for. But I would guess mostly American bands would play. Being British, the hurricane doesn't affect them nearly as much as it would if they were American.

I would love for Pink Floyd to play it. But I don't think they will.

They wont.

Oye, man am I tired. Hmm, I guess I should say something relating to Floyd... umm... hmm... let's see... er, Floyd is good. Yeah. Let's see... you were discussing the Wall... awesome album, if [i]very[/i] depressing... Disc 2 > Disc 1, and 1st half of Disc 2 > 2nd half of Disc 2... Hey You, Is There Anybody Out There, Nobody Home, and Vera are all beautiful songs, and flow together perfectly with the background TV noise... Bring The Boys Back Home just doesn't do it for me though...Animals, uhh, probably my fourth favorite Floyd Album (IMO, Meddle>DSotM>WYWH>Animals>The Wall), but since those albums are my top 5 albums of all time from any band, that's still saying a lot... Sheep is probably my favorite song on there, mostly because of the great bassline, the lyrics, and the amazing outro... I must have mentioned that outro riff like four times on here by now... Oh, here's a new topic point, I think San Tropez sounds very much like a Beatles song, don't you agree? Listen to it, you'll see what I mean... Well, that's another succesful post by the Travster... Peace, love, and Echoes...

/lame :upset:

Ok to clear up what that guy said.. jean chretien
musically inconsistent? are you on crack?
what is the inconsistency between Comfortably Numb and Waiting for the worms? Maybe you should explain yourself.

Comfortably Numb, apart from the 2 kick *** solos, aint much music there.
Waiting for the worms, has an AMAZING riff, and that song pumps you up with that riff, and poeple screaming HAMMER HAMMER HAMMER, but no kick *** solo. So I guess they are even, one of them a really good riff, the other a really good solo. How is that inconsistent?

Next time please backup what you say.

[QUOTE]It's the kind of thing Floyd would play for. But I would guess mostly American bands would play. Being British, the hurricane doesn't affect them nearly as much as it would if they were American[/QUOTE]

Paul McCartney's playing there.

So is Neil Young.

Neither of them are American.

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Paul McCartney's playing there.

So is Neil Young.

Neither of them are American.[/QUOTE]
Neil is canadian and Paul McCartney's an idiot
oops
did i say that outloud

[QUOTE=Mister Blue Sky]Paul McCartney's playing there.

So is Neil Young.

Neither of them are American.[/QUOTE]

When is this concert?