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gaslightanthem 04-02-2009 05:19 PM

[quote]do it up make one[/quote]

****ing done it brehhhhh

ATM 04-02-2009 06:07 PM

[QUOTE=Rams;17158868][img]http://cdbaby.name/r/e/reavers.jpg[/img]
I can't find it and I don't feel like spending $10 to some slimy website for it. [I]Terror Firma[/I] was probably the best album from 2005.[/QUOTE]

I'll check it out. Never heard of it.

Rams 04-02-2009 06:25 PM

The Reavers are (from their myspace):
Vordul Megallah of Cannibal Ox,

Dom Pacino; gold selling Wu-Tang Affiliate,

Akir; The Sources Unsigned Hype of January/February 2005,

Kong & Spiga of MF DOOM affiliated Monsta Island Czars,

Karniege; Definitive Jux artist & one of Urb Magazines Next 100 of 2005,

Hasan Salaam; winner of FUSE networks Hip-Hop Presidency,

Goldenchild; MC/producer/singer that has toured with Akir for the past year and leader of HipHopReggaeSoul Band "PLAN B"

HiCoup; 5th Column member has been rocking with Hasan Salaam for some time,

Keith Masters; featured on Vorduls Yung World LP,

Priviledge, rising star featured on Dr. Monokromes All Things Considered, and

Billy Woods; who has dropped two critically acclaimed albums on Backwoodz Studioz since 2002


Spiga, Hasan Salaam, and Akir are the best members.

StalkingButler 04-02-2009 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=kingsoby1;17158564]welcome joe, tommy... joe i dont know why you cant start threads, i think you have to be a forums member for a few days or something.

have you checked strange journey yet?

ATM, you should def go see IT... i hear his live set is awesome.[/QUOTE]

Been through it like 10 times in just 3-4 days.

My conservative blurb:

4 Stars/ 8.5

Production: A (3.7/4)
Does Kno even have a shelf as a producer? Small deductions for the decisions to throw in the remixes and live clip of "Lynguistics" in the middle of the album. Also the "Dance for Me" remix didn't score any points. These samples/hooks are awesome.

Lyricism: A- (3.2/4)
Flow: A- (1.6/2)
Mr. SOS and Slug top the rest for guest spots. Of course.. Natti and Deacon are entertaining.

Overall: A- (8.5/10)
This album falls a step behind their last two based solely on the remixes and guest spots (which aren't necessarily bad). Volume One has better highlights though. "Don't Leave (When Winter Comes)" and "Never Come Down" are absolute classics and song of the year candidates. "Move", "Hypnotized", "Die For You", "The Distance", and "Broken Van (Thinking of You)" are all great tracks as well. Basically, take all the new material from the three members and you'd have another modern classic from the most dependable hip hop group of the decade.

StalkingButler 04-02-2009 08:29 PM

[QUOTE=Rams;17158785]rateyourmusic is awful for Blues, Reggae, and Hip-Hop[/QUOTE]

Reggae, it respects Abyssinian's Satta Massagana more than any Marley record. That's good. They hardly have anyone over there listening to reggae though.

Hip Hop though... RYM is real dependable. Best source I've found online pending on the quality of you folks here.

kingsoby1 04-02-2009 08:44 PM

rym has got a great hiphop community... im basically yanking some concepts from over there and improving it.

Tyler 04-02-2009 08:54 PM

their forums are awful but i quite like their databasing/cataloguing system, which is really all anyone should use it for anyways. it's terrible for discussion of any sort

kingsoby1 04-02-2009 08:57 PM

yeah not a big fan of the forums, except for random posting in the hiphop thread.

StalkingButler 04-02-2009 09:00 PM

Yep, you guys got it all right. Been there since December 2006 and only check the Hip Hop Thread and the hip hop album of the week topics in their discussion section.

CaptainWaits 04-02-2009 09:33 PM

Stopped by the CD store today, and decided to pick up the Black Star album. I hadn't heard anything on it prior, but so far it's one solid album. I have a couple of Talib albums, I like him a lot, but I haven't gotten into much Mos Def.

Anyways, Black Stars sweet

kingsoby1 04-02-2009 09:38 PM

definitely dude, it's excellent.

Rams 04-02-2009 10:33 PM

[QUOTE=StalkingButler;17159284]Reggae, it respects Abyssinian's Satta Massagana more than any Marley record. That's good. They hardly have anyone over there listening to reggae though.[/QUOTE]

[I]Catch A Fire[/I] and [I]Exodus[/I] are rated higher than [I]Satta Massagana[/I]. They have no love for U-roy and some how think Sinéad O'Connor and David Lindley are reggae artists. Plus there's about 10 ratings for Sly & Robbie stuff.

[QUOTE=StalkingButler;17159284]Hip Hop though... RYM is real dependable. Best source I've found online pending on the quality of you folks here. [/QUOTE]

They dislike anything remotely popular and love crap like Prolyphic and Animator.

illmitch 04-02-2009 10:35 PM

hatred of popular rap isn't limited to RYM, though. look at how much hate Lil' Wayne gets here - let alone artists like Jeezy or Rich Boy (i'm a fan of both rappers).

Rams 04-02-2009 10:50 PM

I didn't mean to imply they were the only ones, just that they grossly overlook anything remotely popular.

StalkingButler 04-02-2009 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=Rams;17159620][I]Catch A Fire[/I] and [I]Exodus[/I] are rated higher than [I]Satta Massagana[/I]. They have no love for U-roy and some how think Sinéad O'Connor and David Lindley are reggae artists. Plus there's about 10 ratings for Sly & Robbie stuff.



They dislike anything remotely popular and love crap like Prolyphic and Animator.[/QUOTE]

Oh, I was looking at my friends rating average for Satta Massagana over Marley, my bad. I usually test RYM by that, since I had selected those. (Which is an awesome feature if you have a great base of friends --- I have over 20 quite dependable and different minded/located hip hop fans in my list [awesome resource])

and I didn't think Prolyphic and Animator was crap.. one of my favorite albums of last year. Just cracked my top five even.

illmitch 04-02-2009 11:00 PM

yeah I know what you mean, the anti-mainstream trend is understandable but depressing.

niobium 04-02-2009 11:04 PM

rym is good if you know how to work it

CaptainWaits 04-02-2009 11:07 PM

How's allmusic for being accurate on hip-hop? I use that generally when I'm not sure on artists or albums....but a lot of the artists I'm educated on they often give some crazy ratings.

pixiesfanyo 04-03-2009 12:33 AM

allmusic is terrible for ratings. the reviews and information are usually quality though.

pixiesfanyo 04-03-2009 12:34 AM

[QUOTE=Rams;17159706]I didn't mean to imply they were the only ones, just that they grossly overlook anything remotely popular.[/QUOTE]

i guess. its just like anything you can't take the ratings too seriously. if you find a user that loves hip-hop usually their reviews are pretty accurate.

Tyler 04-03-2009 02:39 AM

I can't get LL Cool J's "Around the Way Girl" out of my head. Track is so dope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxlFcZjBvw

I want a girl with extensions in her hair
Bamboo earrings
At least two pair
A Fendi bag and a bad attitude
That's all I need to get me in a good mood
She can walk with a switch and talk with street slang
I love it when a woman ain't scared to do her thing
Standing at the bus stop sucking on a lollipop
Once she gets pumping its hard to make the hottie stop

Wyko 04-03-2009 09:07 AM

[QUOTE=Cocaine;17160006]I can't get LL Cool J's "Around the Way Girl" out of my head. Track is so dope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxlFcZjBvw

I want a girl with extensions in her hair
Bamboo earrings
At least two pair
A Fendi bag and a bad attitude
That's all I need to get me in a good mood
She can walk with a switch and talk with street slang
I love it when a woman ain't scared to do her thing
Standing at the bus stop sucking on a lollipop
Once she gets pumping its hard to make the hottie stop[/QUOTE]

Yeah it's great, I love the Mary Jane Girls sample.

I'm really digging Otha Fish from the first Pharcyde album lately. Such a great beat.

ATM 04-03-2009 09:56 AM

My buddy took this video at the Blu and Exile show in DC on Wednesday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QkjCHWiSl0

Flipping the A Millie beat.

kingsoby1 04-03-2009 10:18 AM

4 hour ride to madison, wi and back... stuff i'm bumpin:

Flying Lotus - 1983
Dabrye - Two/Three
Del - Funk Man
Count Bass D - Pre Life Crisis
Big Tone - The Art of Ink
Finale - A Pipe Dream and A Promise
Illogic - Diabolical Fun
UGK 4 Life
Outkast - Aquemini

Hopefully there's room on the CDR for all these, i dont feel like makin two :(

ATM 04-03-2009 11:46 AM

Looks awesome.

Today I'm listening to:

Chip Fu's new mixtape
New Doom
The Five One - The Red Complex
Flying Lotus - BBC Essential Mix
G5 Clive - A Bathing Tape
Luck One and Dekk - Beautiful Music
MF Doom - Special Blends Vol 2
MMR - ADM - Untitled
Sleaze - The Ocarnia of Rhyme
Wildahead Portisbeast

Getting ready to promote my show at the Immortal show tonight - I'm gonna pass out mad flyers

StalkingButler 04-03-2009 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=CaptainWaits;17159751]How's allmusic for being accurate on hip-hop? I use that generally when I'm not sure on artists or albums....but a lot of the artists I'm educated on they often give some crazy ratings.[/QUOTE]

I think everything is a 4/5 unless its a gimme 5/5 decision.

Iai 04-04-2009 05:17 AM

[QUOTE=Rams;17159620][I]Catch A Fire[/I] and [I]Exodus[/I] are rated higher than [I]Satta Massagana[/I]. They have no love for U-roy and some how think Sinéad O'Connor and David Lindley are reggae artists. Plus there's about 10 ratings for Sly & Robbie stuff.[/QUOTE]
How much Sinead O'Conner have you actually heard, out of interest?

ATM 04-04-2009 07:55 AM

Sam Immortal Technique yesterday. Pretty solid live.

Today is Rap Leagues!!!

illmitch 04-04-2009 08:20 AM

immortal technique ehhhhhhhhhh dunno bout that dude

ATM 04-04-2009 08:22 AM

I was only there to promote my event tonight :D


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