[QUOTE=irishslappop]as far as we know it's only void in the case of super heated gasses.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but think how many super heated gaseous masses there are in space: billions. More than billions. There's literally about infinity. That's a lot to **** up the universe, my friend.

Maybe a black hole is a destruction of that constant?

Let's talk about the worm hole theory. I love that theory.

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-Gav

Maybe the gas buggered up his measuring devices.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]E=MC^2, meaning energy is mass moving at super high speeds.

If that experiment is true, then all of our modern physics, metaphysics, and time travel/origin theories (string theory, wormhole theory, etc.) are flawed, untrue, and that time travel is very possible.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]

time travel is possable because we are traveling through time right now, what you are trying to say is that we could then in therory speed it up slow it down. or even go backwards. wow this really fricks with a lot of stuff

lowsound

well a bombs aren't really produckts of light........they are acually quite simple. a nearly perfect sphere of some type of nuclear material (uranium or plutonium) is made and around it in another perfect sphere are very high, very pure exlosives that leave no trace of themselfs after exploding. when the sphere of explosives explodes with equal force on all sides of the nuclear material it compresses into a perfect ball untill it reaches critical mass (when the atoms acually start spliting and releasing the power within an atom) then the chain reation just starts and huge amounts of energy are released. a poor but sufficent explination.
who ever said pot heads couldn't be smart?

hey guys.

OK guys, I have been here since way too long ago, i post only rarely, and i like to think that my posts are unique and interesting. Regardless, i hate seeing all these people take temporary breaks (I assure you that that's all they are) so im gonna jump into the casual thread and see if i can do some damage.

In regards to time travel, I understand how in theory it can slow down or go backwards, but I cannot see any practical application to this, other than for pulling the most kick-arse pranks.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Yeah, but think how many super heated gaseous masses there are in space: billions. More than billions. There's literally about infinity. That's a lot to **** up the universe, my friend.

Maybe a black hole is a destruction of that constant?

Let's talk about the worm hole theory. I love that theory.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

don't know that therory, but if you think about it black holes could deffently be constant. it has been proven that stuff does escape for them (hawkins disproved), so it can now be a constant force, right?

lowsound

worm holes are crazy i dont know too much about them besides that they may weild us the ablity to travle into the past.......

[QUOTE=gaslight]Maybe the gas buggered up his measuring devices.[/QUOTE]

I thought that, too, but lab equipment is made so it's near perfect. Most professional lab stuff is accurate to about 0.0000000001 places. Pretty **** accurate, if you ask me. Possible, but highly unlikely.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=irishslappop]well a bombs aren't really produckts of light........they are acually quite simple. a nearly perfect sphere of some type of nuclear material (uranium or plutonium) is made and around it in another perfect sphere are very high, very pure exlosives that leave no trace of themselfs after exploding. when the sphere of explosives explodes with equal force on all sides of the nuclear material it compresses into a perfect ball untill it reaches critical mass (when the atoms acually start spliting and releasing the power within an atom) then the chain reation just starts and huge amounts of energy are released. a poor but sufficent explination.
who ever said pot heads couldn't be smart?[/QUOTE]

but couldn't you take light and speed it up enough (if this is correct) to make the atoms split, causeing the same effect?

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]don't know that therory, but if you think about it black holes could deffently be constant. it has been proven that stuff does escape for them (hawkins disproved), so it can now be a constant force, right?

lowsound[/QUOTE]
i dont think so, the size and mass of the star in the end of a blacxk hole differ, they exsert different amounts of force depending on their mass....

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]time travel is possable because we are traveling through time right now, what you are trying to say is that we could then in therory speed it up slow it down. or even go backwards. wow this really fricks with a lot of stuff

lowsound[/QUOTE]

Yeah, time is the fourth dimension. We can't escape it, just like we can't escape length, width, and height, the other 3 dimensions.

By "time travel," we mean speed up time for one microcosm and allow it to go forward without disturbing other time around it.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I thought that, too, but lab equipment is made so it's near perfect. Most professional lab stuff is accurate to about 0.0000000001 places. Pretty **** accurate, if you ask me. Possible, but highly unlikely.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]

i have to get off so :wave:, but if the gas messed with what is thought to be the universial constant, then it could have messed with his insterments which are not near as "constant"

lowsound

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]but couldn't you take light and speed it up enough (if this is correct) to make the atoms split, causeing the same effect?

lowsound[/QUOTE]
I doubt that it's possible to get light to a speed that high.

[QUOTE=YO_bass]In regards to time travel, I understand how in theory it can slow down or go backwards, but I cannot see any practical application to this, other than for pulling the most kick-arse pranks.[/QUOTE]

Imagine being able to fast forward, find a cure for cancer, AIDS, etc., and save millions of lives. Imagine being able to rewind and stop a world war. Imagine the ability to rewind and stop a 3 year old from crawling over a fence into a pool and drowning.

There are limitless possibilities, my friend.

But yes, we could do some wicked sweet pranks. :lol:

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-Gav

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]but couldn't you take light and speed it up enough (if this is correct) to make the atoms split, causeing the same effect?

lowsound[/QUOTE]
lol in theory the only problem is that according to einstein it would take infinate energy and infinate time to speed something up to the speed of light :) pretty trippy huh?
and also if you traveled the speed of light for even like.....00000000000000000000000000000000000005 of a milisecond. relitive to someone on earth you would have traveled infinate distance for inifate time. but to you, you would have only traveled how far light travels in that amount of time. lol all sorts of crazy **** happens if you atain light speed.

howdy!

[QUOTE=irishslappop]i dont think so, the size and mass of the star in the end of a blacxk hole differ, they exsert different amounts of force depending on their mass....[/QUOTE]

right.

lowsound

Haha I haven't gotten into stuff like that yet in science. 13 year olds are now studying about simple things like the different changes in matter.

wow. hightech science talk.
i sleep during science

****. ive got a science test tomorrow. on black holes n crap. w/e. ill wing er.

i gotta do some homework on the hobbit. ill see you guys around.

[QUOTE=rybass]howdy![/QUOTE]You just walked into a very confusing and fast-paced conversation. :thumb:

lowsound: we don't know enough about them, yet. There's too many different forces acting on black holes, too, and each force differs. So far, no two black holes are the same, which puts a hole in your constant theory.

Yes, as your velocity increases, so does your mass. In order to reach c, you'd need to increase to infinity. Because your velocity is directly proportional to your weight, to reach infinite velocity, you'd gain infinite mass, which would require infinite weight.

And yes, your motion/displacement would end, and you'd be just completely off, even if it was possible.

:thumb:

-Gav

:wave: to all newcomers and to all who are leaving.

My next post will explain the worm hole theory.

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Imagine being able to fast forward, find a cure for cancer, AIDS, etc., and save millions of lives. Imagine being able to rewind and stop a world war. Imagine the ability to rewind and stop a 3 year old from crawling over a fence into a pool and drowning.

There are limitless possibilities, my friend.

But yes, we could do some wicked sweet pranks. :lol:

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but think about stuff like this: What if you go forward in time and you run into a future version of yourself? Or you find that there IS no future version of yourself? Or if you go back in time to before you were born and change something which causes you not to ever be born. Is it then possible to move forward in time? What if you go back in time say 5 years and then kill your other self. When you go forward in time again, who exists? This just blows the mind, and it practically couldnt work, so i dont know why im thinking so hard about it.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]lowsound: we don't know enough about them, yet. There's too many different forces acting on black holes, too, and each force differs. So far, no two black holes are the same, which puts a hole in your constant theory.

Yes, as your velocity increases, so does your mass. In order to reach c, you'd need to increase to infinity. Because your velocity is directly proportional to your weight, to reach infinite velocity, you'd gain infinite mass, which would require infinite weight.

And yes, your motion/displacement would end, and you'd be just completely off, even if it was possible.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
yep. special relativity = teh roxX0r

[QUOTE=cliffburtonrules]You just walked into a very confusing and fast-paced conversation. :thumb:[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm not even going to try and join that convo.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]lowsound: we don't know enough about them, yet. There's too many different forces acting on black holes, too, and each force differs. So far, no two black holes are the same, which puts a hole in your constant theory.

Yes, as your velocity increases, so does your mass. In order to reach c, you'd need to increase to infinity. Because your velocity is directly proportional to your weight, to reach infinite velocity, you'd gain infinite mass, which would require infinite weight.

And yes, your motion/displacement would end, and you'd be just completely off, even if it was possible.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
I have infinite weight. :upset:

OK, so you find a wormhole and hang on one end with a digital analog clock. You set the clock to exactly 12:00 am. The clock is accurate to 0.0000000001 (10 decimal places) second(s). You then travel to the other end of the worm hole. You look through and see the analog clock is there. Say it reads 12:10 am. You think "Oh, ten minutes has passed." WRONG. You look through the worm hole and see yourself on the other side, setting the analog clock originally to 12:00 am. You climb through and meet yourself.

There's much more physics, theories, and equations behind it, but it's fascinating.

:thumb:

-Gav

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]:wave: to all newcomers and to all who are leaving.

My next post will explain the worm hole theory.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
i predict bends and folds in space time alowing us to travle back in time. watch it'll be there, to bad ive wasted all my brain space on special and general relitivity and dont know **** about wormhole theory. :(

[QUOTE=YO_bass]Yeah, but think about stuff like this: What if you go forward in time and you run into a future version of yourself? Or you find that there IS no future version of yourself? Or if you go back in time to before you were born and change something which causes you not to ever be born. Is it then possible to move forward in time? What if you go back in time say 5 years and then kill your other self. When you go forward in time again, who exists? This just blows the mind, and it practically couldnt work, so i dont know why im thinking so hard about it.[/QUOTE]

A point well taken and well considered by physicists. This raises the ever-present question in science: IS IT MORAL?! Let's not, however, turn this into a religious discussion. Religion is the one thing I will not discuss here on MX.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=irishslappop]i predict bends and folds in space time alowing us to travle back in time. watch it'll be there, to bad ive wasted all my brain space on special and general relitivity and dont know **** about wormhole theory. :([/QUOTE]
And you've wasted a portion of your brain on pot.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]A point well taken and well considered by physicists. This raises the ever-present question in science: IS IT MORAL?! Let's not, however, turn this into a religious discussion. Religion is the one thing I will not discuss here on MX.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
Isn't there a sub-forum in the Pit that talkes about religion?

[QUOTE=cliffburtonrules]I have infinite weight. :upset:[/QUOTE]

Therefore, you either:

A-Do not exist
B-Are travelling at the speed of light
C-Are the universe
D-Are exagerrating

Since A-C are impossible, you are D.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]OK, so you find a wormhole and hang on one end with a digital analog clock. You set the clock to exactly 12:00 am. The clock is accurate to 0.0000000001 (10 decimal places) second(s). You then travel to the other end of the worm hole. You look through and see the analog clock is there. Say it reads 12:10 am. You think "Oh, ten minutes has passed." WRONG. You look through the worm hole and see yourself on the other side, setting the analog clock originally to 12:00 am. You climb through and meet yourself.

There's much more physics, theories, and equations behind it, but it's fascinating.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
i remeber reading something like that wormholes only stay open for a certain time and if your caught in the middle of one that is closing then you dont exsit and in the past you ver never even born. in effect constituing the butterfly effect (not the movie!!!) when one man steps on a butterfly in the past and changes the future.
:)

I thought there was a rule in the Pit: NO RELIGIOUS TOPICS. I wouldn't know...I don't go there.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Therefore, you either:

A-Do not exist
B-Are travelling at the speed of light
C-Are the universe
D-Are exagerrating

Since A-C are impossible, you are D.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]
Hence the " :upset: "

[QUOTE=cliffburtonrules]And you've wasted a portion of your brain on pot.[/QUOTE]
not wasted my friend and as you can see, im no dummie when it comes to this stuff.

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]A point well taken and well considered by physicists. This raises the ever-present question in science: IS IT MORAL?! Let's not, however, turn this into a religious discussion. Religion is the one thing I will not discuss here on MX.

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-Gav[/QUOTE]

Im actually taking a course this semester on Science and Religion. Its taught by a conservative catholic, but most of the course is discussion, so a LOT of viewpoints are put forwards, and although the guy has pretty firm beliefs, he doesnt care what we believe as long as we back it up, so he's pretty open minded in that regard.

If anybody does feel like discussing the morality/connection to religion on these issues, i'd be more than happy to do so. I have taken 3 years of Catholic theology, a course on comparative religions, but im not a creationist or anything weird like that, so ask away.

[QUOTE=irishslappop]i remeber reading something like that wormholes only stay open for a certain time and if your caught in the middle of one that is closing then you dont exsit and in the past you ver never even born. in effect constituing the butterfly effect (not the movie!!!) when one man steps on a butterfly in the past and changes the future.
:)[/QUOTE]

That's the catch 22! If a butterfly in Japan flaps its wings, the ripple effect causes a hurricane in America. Frightening, no? And totally possible.

A flare on alpha centauri (the second closest star to earth, next to the sun, respectively) can cause the destruction of earth. Hell, solar wind on Jupiter could knock out all earth transmissions and cause chaos.

The universe is a delicate balance.

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-Gav

[QUOTE=irishslappop]not wasted my friend and as you can see, im no dummie when it comes to this stuff.[/QUOTE]
Touche.

Those brain cells were obviously kept intact. :thumb: