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thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]What are a, d, x and n? I assume by X you mean "multiplied by?"

To my knowledge, no, it has not been discovered. I'll do some research and try it with rational and irrational numbers.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

a=the first number in the sequence
d=the common differance in the sequence
x=multiply
n=the term number that you are trying to figure out.

the formula is to try and find a certen number in a sequence, so lets say that you have a sequence of 3, 6, 9 and you want to know the 18th number in the sequence you take the formula like this. n=the 18th number a=3 d=3. so you do this. n=3+(3x18) and you get 57 as the answer.

lowsound

Dieforitall89 02-07-2005 09:17 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]WHERE!?[/QUOTE]
Wintermutes Bra, go!

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:18 PM

^ I'll do research...let me try it with pi.

Do you need a minimum of two terms? Also, does it only work with addition, or with subtraction, multiplication, division, etc.?

:thumb:

-Gav

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=Dieforitall89]Wintermutes Bra, go![/QUOTE]
oj jesus! i cant go alone who is joining me on this noble, dangerous task to recover the potatoes form the horrible bra of wintermute? will no one? are there none brave enough? common men! make haste with your decisions!

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]^ I'll do research...let me try it with pi.

Do you need a minimum of two terms? Also, does it only work with addition, or with subtraction, multiplication, division, etc.?

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

only for arithmetic sequences, as in a sequence that goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ect with the differance between number is constant, so adding or adding negitive number (subtracting)

lowsound

PaulSimonon 02-07-2005 09:22 PM

Have any of you ever had counseling?


Oh, I'm not afraid of Wintermute's bra.

Dieforitall89 02-07-2005 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]oj jesus! i cant go alone who is joining me on this noble, dangerous task to recover the potatoes form the horrible bra of wintermute? will no one? are there none brave enough? common men! make haste with your decisions![/QUOTE]
Me and my crew of imaginary pirates shall join, at the cost of your soul.

Tryxx 02-07-2005 09:23 PM

I'm tired. And hey...

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]only for arithmetic sequences, as in a sequence that goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, ect with the differance between number is constant, so adding or adding negitive number (subtracting)

lowsound[/QUOTE]
i wonder if it works with trignometric funtions. or with double nad half angle formulas.

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:24 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]oj jesus! i cant go alone who is joining me on this noble, dangerous task to recover the potatoes form the horrible bra of wintermute? will no one? are there none brave enough? common men! make haste with your decisions![/QUOTE]

im in, do i have to have pants on???

lowsound

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:25 PM

0, 1, 2

You want to find the fourth.

n= 0 + (1*4)
n=4

OK, let's try:

3, 2, 1

You want to find the 4th term.

n=3+(1*4)
n=7

Doesn't work there. Let's try the negative difference (2-3 = -1)

n=3+(-4)
n=-1

Only works with steadily increasing integers...sorry. :upset:

:thumb:

-Gav

Dieforitall89 02-07-2005 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]im in, do i have to have pants on???

lowsound[/QUOTE]
:lol:

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:25 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]i wonder if it works with trignometric funtions. or with double nad half angle formulas.[/QUOTE]

i don't know, i just came up with this like 40 minutes ago, tho me and gav will work on it.

lowsound

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=Dieforitall89]Me and my crew of imaginary pirates shall join, at the cost of your soul.[/QUOTE]
you strike a hard bargin you do. the fellowship of the potatoes. me, my chupacabra, DFIA and his legion of non-exsistent pirates.

Dieforitall89 02-07-2005 09:26 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]0, 1, 2

You want to find the fourth.

n= 0 + (1*4)
n=4

OK, let's try:

3, 2, 1

You want to find the 4th term.

n=3+(1*4)
n=7

Doesn't work there. Let's try the negative difference (2-3 = -1)

n=3+(-4)
n=-1

Only works with steadily increasing integers...sorry. :upset:

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
Your having too much fun with this. :lol:

PaulSimonon 02-07-2005 09:27 PM

Wow. I'm glad to see noone cares about me.

Dieforitall89 02-07-2005 09:28 PM

Right...we start our quest tomorrow*is tempted to make a thread but holds it in* Right 1.2k posts and im out, later guys. :wave:

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=thelowsoundofbass]im in, do i have to have pants on???

lowsound[/QUOTE]
i would prefer it but if you are unable to suit yourself with a pair of chain mail pants, you may still join this noble quest.

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:28 PM

^ But it's still pretty cool. Almost as cool as my theory:

When you want to find the square of a number:

x^2 =(x-1)(x+1)+1

where x is the defined integer. Say the number is 2

2^2 = (2-1)(2+1) + 1

4 = (1)(3) + 1

4=4

Try it with any number...rational, irrational, pi, anything. It works.

I rule. I call it my lemma, or mini-theory.

:thumb:

-Gav

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:31 PM

I love you, Paul.

Lowsound: Your theory would work with something like...summation or something.

:thumb:

-Gav

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]0, 1, 2

You want to find the fourth.

n= 0 + (1*4)
n=4

OK, let's try:

3, 2, 1

You want to find the 4th term.

n=3+(1*4)
n=7

Doesn't work there. Let's try the negative difference (2-3 = -1)

n=3+(-4)
n=-1

Only works with steadily increasing integers...sorry. :upset:

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

ok for a sequence going down lets try using subtraction insted.

3,2,1

find forth number

n=3-(1*4)
=1 so that doesnt work how about if you use division and subtraction?

3,2,1
n=3-(1devided by 4)
=2.75 doesn't work eather. o well its a cool fromula and if you use the negitive differacne it works.

lowsound

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:33 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]I love you, Paul.

Lowsound: Your theory would work with something like...summation or something.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

im going to present it to my teacher tomorrow

lowsound

Napes 02-07-2005 09:35 PM

Do the chickens have large talons?

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:36 PM

you fellow seem to like chem better then physics :angry: but anyway, my teacher found an article the other day on the net that said a swedish scientist shot a beam of light through a chamber of super heated siesium gas (gas form of a type of crystal) and it went over 300 times faster then normal like. special relativity is at question now. einstein must have turned in his grave.

gaslight 02-07-2005 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]you fellow seem to like chem better then physics :angry: but anyway, my teacher found an article the other day on the net that said a swedish scientist shot a beam of light through a chamber of super heated siesium gas (gas form of a type of crystal) and it went over 300 times faster then normal like. special relativity is at question now. einstein must have turned in his grave.[/QUOTE]

You mean that light travelled 300 times faster than its normal speed?

That's weird.

:confused:

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:41 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]you fellow seem to like chem better then physics :angry: but anyway, my teacher found an article the other day on the net that said a swedish scientist shot a beam of light through a chamber of super heated siesium gas (gas form of a type of crystal) and it went over 300 times faster then normal like. special relativity is at question now. einstein must have turned in his grave.[/QUOTE]

in my understanding it it would only work if the gas was super heated and its the rapidly moving atoms that push the light beam to go faster. but im not much of a sciance guy, history and math are my subjects

lowsound

madthumbs 02-07-2005 09:41 PM

im merging this with the casual

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=gaslight]You mean that light travelled 300 times faster than its normal speed?

That's weird.

:confused:[/QUOTE]
yeah man, something like 3.454 x 10^16 miles per hour. hauling as[SIZE=1]s[/SIZE]

gaslight 02-07-2005 09:43 PM

Isn't the speed of light supposed to like a universal constant or something fancy like that?

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:43 PM

[QUOTE=irishslappop]you fellow seem to like chem better then physics :angry: but anyway, my teacher found an article the other day on the net that said a swedish scientist shot a beam of light through a chamber of super heated siesium gas (gas form of a type of crystal) and it went over 300 times faster then normal like. special relativity is at question now. einstein must have turned in his grave.[/QUOTE]

Cesium? Fun fact: when you put solid cesium into water, it practically explodes!

Moving on: 300 times faster? Holy ****, that is insane. 9.0x 10^11 m/s.

If so, then the speed of light is not the constant of the universe. Therefore, according to the string theory, we are all royally ****ed, as the universe will collapse into a dense vortex of mass and kill us all instantly.

If that's true, Einstein just got owned. It doesn't matter, though. Math is flawed anyway. :p

:thumb:

-Gav

PaulSimonon 02-07-2005 09:45 PM

Even I can go 300x the speed of light. You should be praising me!

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=gaslight]Isn't the speed of light supposed to like a universal constant or something fancy like that?[/QUOTE]
yes, the entire theroy of special relativity is based on light (C) being constant

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:46 PM

[QUOTE=gaslight]Isn't the speed of light supposed to like a universal constant or something fancy like that?[/QUOTE]

yes acording ot enstine, thats what e=mc2 is based off of, if that is actually true the atom bomb might actaully be made to be more effencienct and cause more dammage. using that gas combinded with what it already is

lowsound

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:48 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Cesium? Fun fact: when you put solid cesium into water, it practically explodes!

Moving on: 300 times faster? Holy ****, that is insane. 9.0x 10^11 m/s.

If so, then the speed of light is not the constant of the universe. Therefore, according to the string theory, we are all royally ****ed, as the universe will collapse into a dense vortex of mass and kill us all instantly.

If that's true, Einstein just got owned. It doesn't matter, though. Math is flawed anyway. :p

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]

most of it works if you keep it to the boundrys that are set up when somethign is discovered.

lowsound

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:48 PM

E=MC^2, meaning energy is mass moving at super high speeds.

If that experiment is true, then all of our modern physics, metaphysics, and time travel/origin theories (string theory, wormhole theory, etc.) are flawed, untrue, and that time travel is very possible.

:thumb:

-Gav

gaslight 02-07-2005 09:49 PM

300 times more efficent A-bombs? I know what I want for Christmas.

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:49 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]Cesium? Fun fact: when you put solid cesium into water, it practically explodes!

Moving on: 300 times faster? Holy ****, that is insane. 9.0x 10^11 m/s.

If so, then the speed of light is not the constant of the universe. Therefore, according to the string theory, we are all royally ****ed, as the universe will collapse into a dense vortex of mass and kill us all instantly.

If that's true, Einstein just got owned. It doesn't matter, though. Math is flawed anyway. :p

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
yeah thats how you spell it. but now that the entire universe doesn't have a single constant and we are in complete and total chaos.......we're screwed.
btw gav do you know how many dimentions must exsit for string theory to acually be possible? yeah like 16 or something lol. idk about that :lol:

irishslappop 02-07-2005 09:51 PM

[QUOTE=I0Play0Bass]E=MC^2, meaning energy is mass moving at super high speeds.

If that experiment is true, then all of our modern physics, metaphysics, and time travel/origin theories (string theory, wormhole theory, etc.) are flawed, untrue, and that time travel is very possible.

:thumb:

-Gav[/QUOTE]
as far as we know it's only void in the case of super heated gasses.

thelowsoundofbass 02-07-2005 09:52 PM

[QUOTE=gaslight]300 times more efficent A-bombs? I know what I want for Christmas.[/QUOTE]

not nessarily 300 times more efficent, but in therory since light isn't constant and can be changed the bomb could be made more powerful. i don't know how they work, but in therory it would work.

lowsound

bottlerocket 02-07-2005 09:52 PM

^ Yeah, I've heard 16. If you think about it, there are tons of forces.

On any particular object on earth right now, at least 24 different forces are acting upon it at any given time.

I LOVE science discussions...I have afeeling that irish and I can make this a two-man science/math show.

With regards to the 300 times c, it could be some weird interface and reflective property with cesium. I think it's an observation error. That's just insane. In our universe, nothing is constant. That means chaos, or there's some other constant out there we have yet to find.

If that's true, physics is royally ****ed.

:thumb:

-Gav


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