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i am the robots 04-11-2005 10:02 AM

**** you, my clique is way cooler than yours!

Cain 04-11-2005 10:03 AM

I have a conference with my teacher for a little while now, expect late responses to any you may have to my point, Jim. :) I want replies!!

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:04 AM

Cain: yeah, something like that would be a start, at least :) Thanks.

[QUOTE=i_am_Jimmy_Page]I just have a shameful 'collection' of one song...Drugs Have Done Good Things...It's good, I just can't really seem to find much by him.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but I mean, is it actually a song? With music and singing and such. Or is it just a sound file of stand-up?

[QUOTE=Antihero]
*big post*[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I can't relate to most of what you seem to be saying. My "high school" (secondary school is what I called it, yeah) was really good, and apart from the work, I enjoyed it immensely. And for me, University has been good so far..I don't notice cliques (beyond just groups of friends hanging out, naturally), maybe it's because I'm not often very alert to things like that, or something. It seems to be totally different to school, though, a lot more impersonal (in a good way).

You say it just has a lot more people and a lot more woirk, but I've generally been in contact with fewer people (my four flatmates, only two of whom I really talk to, and two people at most from classes and such - they're very cool, though), and if not less work - I hardly did any in school, either - then no great increase. I've been there six months now, and I've only had to do 10 pieces of work.

i am the robots 04-11-2005 10:06 AM

I currently am still in High School (in the Library right now cause my home comp is dead).

There is nobody worth while speaking to here. Except for a few people.

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:14 AM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]High School is alot different in England. Private Schools are full of drug taking rich kids, who's parents trust them to much to care about grades. You generally find the more intelligent people in a Public School, but you also get the idiots who miss every lesson, and occasionally come in to cause trouble.

We also have a big racism culture in our school, and alot of Islamic people regulaly start fights with white people just for being white. If i said that in school, i would be called racist. The British policy on politcal correctness is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious? I went to a private school (no drugs, bar a couple of idiots), and I know that I can say, without boasting, that we had much more intelligent students than any state school I've known of (and I've known of quite a few - my mam's been a teacher in state schools all her life).

Unless by public schools, you meant actual public schools (Eton and so on), rather than state schools.

We didn't have any racism either. In my school, I mean. I remember some guy in charge of a committee for education made the recommendation a couple of months ago that black children and white children should be educated separately, to avoid any detriment to the black kids' learning. Which is idiotic. Thankfully I've heard nothing more of that since then.

Jom 04-11-2005 10:15 AM

I think part of my issue is that I go to a smaller university. I got accepted to every single uni I applied for, and one of the uni's undergrad population is 80,000+. That's too much for me, so I figured that a smaller school would help me out. Turns out, I have to deal with things more regularly... next year will be much better for me because:

1) Roommate will hopefully be dead/incarcerated/I won't see him ever again
2) Better housing with better roommates (townhouse, with two others I know better)
3) Better classes and hopefully not as rigorous as this year
4) Roommate will hopefully be dead/incarcerated/I won't see him ever again
5) Townhouse = more space between neighbors
6) Townhouse = not having to put up with a lot of people in the same living center

I think that I just got thrown into a situation I couldn't control, which leads to my palpable frustration. I don't mean to take it out here, but none of my high school friends who go here care enough to listen.

And yeah, it's a state uni, Cain, but it's smaller. The undergrad population here is less than 10,000, I think. I thought this would be an advantage, but ohhhhh no. Big mistake. People are so divided here, be it politically or socially or whatever (the election here, for example, tore our uni's population in two because half of everyone here is seemingly liberal while the other half is seemingly conservative. I didn't vote in the election, so I carried apathetic views, but I still followed the election).

I also would assume that universities in Europe are different than America in some respects. When I interviewed Jelle (and when I talk to him otherwise on AIM) for my diversity class he said that he has to attend until July, and then goes back in October, which is drastically different than mine, considering I'm out on the 27th of this month and return at the end of August.

I just think that next year I'll have a better handle on things because I'll have new classes, a better place to live, and not having to put up with my douche of a roommate anymore.

I thought I had more to say than this. I'll edit it in if I can remember.

IAJP 04-11-2005 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Yeah, but I mean, is it actually a song? With music and singing and such. Or is it just a sound file of stand-up?[/QUOTE]
It's actually stand up, very good stuff. Apparently it's about the Beatles/Bob Dylan (or any 60's artist), is that true?

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:19 AM

Well, if it's the bit I'm thinking of, he just means any artist.

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]I also would assume that universities in Europe are different than America in some respects.[/QUOTE]

Size is definitely one of those respects. Leeds is one of the bigger universities here, and it's total student population is around 30,000.

I think that, apart from just plain comparing them to each other (in a "my uni's better than your uni" way :)), there doesn't seem to be that much common ground between the systems :-/

munky_magik 04-11-2005 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=88_Fingers_Joe]High School is alot different in England. Private Schools are full of drug taking rich kids, who's parents trust them to much to care about grades. You generally find the more intelligent people in a Public School, but you also get the idiots who miss every lesson, and occasionally come in to cause trouble.

We also have a big racism culture in our school, and alot of Islamic people regulaly start fights with white people just for being white. If i said that in school, i would be called racist. The British policy on politcal correctness is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I go to a public school, and I wouldn't say you'll find more intelligent people there. Granted you'll find some intelligent kids but the majority of pupils, in my school at least, have major attitude problems.
Then again, I think my school is one of the worst in my region and/or country :-/

Jom 04-11-2005 10:25 AM

Heh, well, I don't want to get into a debate over our unis :)

Yours sounds like a nice place, besides it being located on a gigantic hill.

Mine is in friggin' cow country, you have to drive a ways to get to anything remotely close to a city... not long via expressway, however... there's malls, movie theaters, restaurants, Lake Michigan is about twenty minutes down the road... the list goes on. It's just that the campus is located in a humongous valley (sort of like the antithesis of Leeds :)), so not a lot of business can be conducted there. There's a family orchard down the road, but that's basically it.

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=Med57]
Bill Hicks was a genius, plain and simple. If he was still around today, I'd love to see how good his stand up routine was now as well, purely because he's got so much material to work with. He also influenced two of my favourite bands in Radiohead and Tool, so he's got to get some credit for that as well. :D[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'd love to see him do fifteen minutes on 9/11. It'd also be interesting to see just how angry he can get about the fact that we have another Bush in power, and that we've had another Gulf War.

Cain 04-11-2005 10:33 AM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Heh, well, I don't want to get into a debate over our unis :)

Yours sounds like a nice place, besides it being located on a gigantic hill.

Mine is in friggin' cow country, you have to drive a ways to get to anything remotely close to a city... not long via expressway, however... there's malls, movie theaters, restaurants, Lake Michigan is about twenty minutes down the road... the list goes on. It's just that the campus is located in a humongous valley (sort of like the antithesis of Leeds :)), so not a lot of business can be conducted there. There's a family orchard down the road, but that's basically it.[/QUOTE]

My school only has about 3,000 or so undergrads, maybe 500 or so graduate students. That type of size is where it becomes an advantage...that's also where it gets real expensive. You basically pay for to 1-15 teacher to student ratio.

I made sure to get to a school that wasn't in cow country. There are movie theaters and a huge mall complex within walking distance, and a train station that gets me to Grand Central in NYC in 20 minutes. And the campus is like a beautiful oasis with nice houses and old buildings and beautiful flowers and trees in the midst of the suburbia.

It's just a different environment, one conducive to my desires for social scene, extra-curricular activities, etc. I love it. And it sounds like things are shaping up better for you too. :)

Cain 04-11-2005 10:35 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Yeah, I'd love to see him do fifteen minutes on 9/11. It'd also be interesting to see just how angry he can get about the fact that we have another Bush in power, and that we've had another Gulf War.[/QUOTE]

American presidents since WWII have seemed intent on turning the British into lackeys rather than legitimate, equal Allies. We wouldn't exist without them, but it's like we are lording our status over people with far more history than we have. That's one thing I find rather annoying and premature on the part of the U.S.

:shiftyeyes: at the phrasing of your paragraph. It sounds like you're American, the way you say "we." :p

Jom 04-11-2005 10:40 AM

Believe me, there would be nothing better than to crack my roommate right across the face with a right hook. I have to have restraint, though, unless he tries to do something idiotic. Then, it's on.

I'm confident that he won't do anything stupid though because I seriously outweigh him by at least fifty pounds (22.7 kg? I don't know what that is in stones) and have a hell of a lot more physical prowess than he possesses. I could try to convince him to fight me while he's drunk, but I wouldn't want such an advantage :p

I didn't mean cow country in the sense that I can hear mooing... but there are a number of farms in the valley. The uni distances itself from them enough, though, and there are plenty of stores and gas stations nearby... it's just all the good ones are a ten minute or so drive.

Speaking of gas, I saw it hit $2.48/gallon here this weekend. Friggin' ridiculous, man.

Cain 04-11-2005 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Believe me, there would be nothing better than to crack my roommate right across the face with a right hook. I have to have restraint, though, unless he tries to do something idiotic. Then, it's on.

I'm confident that he won't do anything stupid though because I seriously outweigh him by at least fifty pounds (22.7 kg? I don't know what that is in stones) and have a hell of a lot more physical prowess than he possesses. I could try to convince him to fight me while he's drunk, but I wouldn't want such an advantage :p

I didn't mean cow country in the sense that I can hear mooing... but there are a number of farms in the valley. The uni distances itself from them enough, though, and there are plenty of stores and gas stations nearby... it's just all the good ones are a ten minute or so drive.

Speaking of gas, I saw it hit $2.48/gallon here this weekend. Friggin' ridiculous, man.[/QUOTE]

I don't need no stinkin' cars!

Although it is a pain to walk places in a cold New York winter.

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=Cain]American presidents since WWII have seemed intent on turning the British into lackeys rather than legitimate, equal Allies. [b]We wouldn't exist without them[/b], but it's like we are lording our status over people with far more history than we have. That's one thing I find rather annoying and premature on the part of the U.S. [/QUOTE]

Maybe the highlighted part is significant. Some kind of deep-seated, nation-wide American insecurity about the fact that that at one point it was under the control (in part, at least) of such a tiny nation, and in fact wouldn't have existed without it, driving the country as a whole to a desire to keep England/the UK as subordinate as possible. Freud would undoubtedly have something to say there, probably involving the word "complex".

[QUOTE=Ripper]:shiftyeyes: at the phrasing of your paragraph. It sounds like you're American, the way you say "we." :p[/QUOTE]

It was meant more in the hippyish, it's-a-round-world-last-time-I-checked kind of thing.

Anyway, IAJP - just download anything you can find by Hicks. I can't think of specific files (since many of them don't have specific file names). I'll take some more down with me, back to Leeds, though.

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:45 AM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]
Speaking of gas, I saw it hit $2.48/gallon here this weekend. Friggin' ridiculous, man.[/QUOTE]

You need some perspective :-/ The price over here at the moment (roughly converted) is $3.55/gallon, and though it's been creeping up recently, that's not a particularly high price.

Cain 04-11-2005 10:50 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]Maybe the highlighted part is significant. Some kind of deep-seated, nation-wide American insecurity about the fact that that at one point it was under the control (in part, at least) of such a tiny nation, and in fact wouldn't have existed without it, driving the country as a whole to a desire to keep England/the UK as subordinate as possible. Freud would undoubtedly have something to say there, probably involving the word "complex".[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure you're right. As the only nation unscathed physically by the massive World Wars, with the most amount of money and the best position to give orders to other countries, we found ourselves in a place where we felt like we could control our Allies. NATO's inception, for instance, has always struck me as America, intent on defeating Communism in the battle for the dominance of the "civilized world", lassoing the European states into a sort of buffer zone. In that sense, it seems to me like it was America trying to turn Britain, France, etc. into, essentially, nothing more than American satellite states, in the same way the USSR used countries like Ukraine, the Balkans, Poland, and East Germany.

Jom 04-11-2005 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]You need some perspective :-/ The price over here at the moment (roughly converted) is $3.55/gallon, and though it's been creeping up recently, that's not a particularly high price.[/QUOTE]

If gas was $3.55/gallon in the US, people would most definitely not say that that isn't a particularly high price. People would bitch up a storm, man. People are bitching up a storm that it went over $2.20 :)

It's just that I hate giving the register ten dollars, and only getting less than four gallons for my car. Luckily, I drive anything but a gas guzzler, but sometimes it makes you wonder.

I want to play the new Splinter Cell. It looks phenomenal... and it got a 9.9/10 in some gaming mag, so that means it has to be awesome. I like those kind of games for a change-of-pace. I love games like Timesplitters 2 where you can be these completely random characters and have these badass weapons and crazy modes of play, it's a fun party game because some completely random things can happen... but the Splinter Cell series is so involved and just plain good ol' fun. I just hate how the pistol is such a wuss.

Cain 04-11-2005 10:51 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]You need some perspective :-/ The price over here at the moment (roughly converted) is $3.55/gallon, and though it's been creeping up recently, that's not a particularly high price.[/QUOTE]

I forgot! We're finally seeing the decline of our financial dominance over the world, too, and that probably pisses people like Bush off. World War II's repercussions haven't lasted forever. That's probably another reason Bush is trying to effect so much change.

Bartender 04-11-2005 10:55 AM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]If gas was $3.55/gallon in the US, people would most definitely not say that that isn't a particularly high price. People would bitch up a storm, man. People are bitching up a storm that it went over $2.20 :)
[/QUOTE]

Well exactly :) That's why it annoys me to hear Americans complaining about how gas prices have gone up so much. America has fantastic prices; it's just been spoiled by such a long period of even more fantastic prices.

[QUOTE=Antihero]I want to play the new Splinter Cell. It looks phenomenal... and it got a 9.9/10 in some gaming mag, so that means it has to be awesome. I like those kind of games for a change-of-pace. I love games like Timesplitters 2 where you can be these completely random characters and have these badass weapons and crazy modes of play, it's a fun party game because some completely random things can happen... but the Splinter Cell series is so involved and just plain good ol' fun. I just hate how the pistol is such a wuss.[/QUOTE]

Splinter Cell always kind of bored me (though a 9.9/10 looks promising). For stealth, I'll generally go back to one of the Hitman games, or even good old Tenchu (maybe Manhunt, for a short time). Anyway, since my PS2 broke, at the moment I have no console on which to play anything anyway :(

Cain 04-11-2005 11:01 AM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Heh, oh noes re: your tags :p

Your PS2 is still broken? Did you take it to the shop to get it fixed?

I have to cut short now. I'll speak to everyone later on.[/QUOTE]

Later Jom. :)

Bartender 04-11-2005 11:06 AM

[QUOTE=AntiHero3314]Heh, oh noes re: your tags :p

Your PS2 is still broken? Did you take it to the shop to get it fixed?

I have to cut short now. I'll speak to everyone later on.[/QUOTE]

There's nothing wrong with my tags <_< >_>

And yeah, still broken. I haven't taken it to a shop, partly because I have no particular money spare if it needs fixing, and partly because I don't know of any shop to take it to.

I'm going to disappear for a while, too. [i]General Patton vs the X-Ecutioners[/i] just drew to a close, so I'm off to have a shower before tea. See you all later (and please, spread the word about the desired lack of chatroom-ism, if anyone comes back and isn't aware of it :)).

Cain 04-11-2005 11:10 AM

[QUOTE=Bartender]There's nothing wrong with my tags <_< >_>

And yeah, still broken. I haven't taken it to a shop, partly because I have no particular money spare if it needs fixing, and partly because I don't know of any shop to take it to.

I'm going to disappear for a while, too. [i]General Patton vs the X-Ecutioners[/i] just drew to a close, so I'm off to have a shower before tea. See you all later (and please, spread the word about the desired lack of chatroom-ism, if anyone comes back and isn't aware of it :)).[/QUOTE]

Sure. See you later. I'll hold the fort all by myself. :upset:

Bye. :)

munky_magik 04-11-2005 11:13 AM

I'll help, if I can find something to talk about.

Actually, I have Uni related talk.
By the 28th I need to decide where I'm going to spend the next 3/4 years of my life. I've managed to whittle it down to between Manchester and Stirling but beyond that I don't have a clue :(

Cain 04-11-2005 11:19 AM

[QUOTE=munky_magik]I'll help, if I can find something to talk about.

Actually, I have Uni related talk.
By the 28th I need to decide where I'm going to spend the next 3/4 years of my life. I've managed to whittle it down to between Manchester and Stirling but beyond that I don't have a clue :([/QUOTE]

/isn't British/English/Scottish/Welsh

/is American and knows nothing of anything outside America

:upset:

Too bad Bartender left. He'd do a better job of helping, I'm sure.

DisposableHeroes 04-11-2005 11:58 AM

Two of my Helmet CD's came today. (insert nob joke here)

ATM 04-11-2005 12:06 PM

Hey dudes.

DisposableHeroes 04-11-2005 12:09 PM

Hey ATM

ATM 04-11-2005 12:15 PM

Well, I went back and read what I missed. I agree with what Bartender said, and I will definantly work on cutting down my spamming in this thread.

DisposableHeroes 04-11-2005 12:23 PM

As will I, so i'll make a start now.

First day back at school, normally i'd be dreading it but it was actually the most fun i've had in a while. Turns out our form tutor had a nervous breakdown, so she wont be back for loooong time. The sub teacher looks like Samuel L Jackson, and we're allowed to call him Mr.T, of course i took it upon myself to say "I aint gettin' on no dam plane". I've got it pretty easy in Maths too, basically we've been divided into two parts in our class. The dumb kids like me get given simple work while the rest(the majority) have to sit through an hour of 'revision'. And as i said before, my Helmet albums came! So in all a good day

Cain 04-11-2005 12:29 PM

Hey ATM, I have a new song to whore if you'd like to hear. :)

[url]http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3396IVAPFH4ER31ZS4X5NDQCB9[/url]

I wrote it for a friend of mine, for her birthday. It was meant to just to be something silly, but it turned into this sprawling arena-rock type song. :)

DisposableHeroes 04-11-2005 12:34 PM

Mind if i check it out Cain?

Cain 04-11-2005 12:37 PM

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]Mind if i check it out Cain?[/QUOTE]

Of course not. Go right ahead. :)

It's an .m4a file, FYI. That's a type of mpeg, but it should play in Quicktime, Realplayer, iTunes, winamp, etc.

DisposableHeroes 04-11-2005 12:47 PM

Ah buggery, it wont let me play it

Woodstock 04-11-2005 12:54 PM

Are their any mods on?

Cain 04-11-2005 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]Ah buggery, it wont let me play it[/QUOTE]

Really? Hmmm. What program are you using?

Shred Danson 04-11-2005 12:59 PM

Check the online users list.

DisposableHeroes 04-11-2005 01:01 PM

[QUOTE=Cain]Really? Hmmm. What program are you using?[/QUOTE]

I would use Real one player if thats what you mean

Cain 04-11-2005 01:02 PM

[QUOTE=DisposableHeroes]I would use Real one player if thats what you mean[/QUOTE]

hmmm, I don't understand. It's possible though that that file is defective. I'll reupload it, people in other forums were having problems with it too.


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