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disasterpiece_012345678_515 10-27-2004 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=MT_W-a-r-l-o-c-k]I dont like ibanez.....:\......I still love his BC Rich guitars....so......uhh....yea...Lol[/QUOTE]

He probly only went with Ibanez cuz the B.C. Rich company....Companies like that never give their players any free ****

mudvayne15923 10-27-2004 07:29 PM

[QUOTE=bassaholica2004]This reminds me of that Rap/Hip-Hop thread in the Other Music forum... :lol:[/QUOTE]
:lol: :lol:
truth :upset:

mudvayne15923 10-27-2004 07:31 PM

[QUOTE=slipknut666]ok ok ok i just got pissed when i read his post and he always gives everybody **** for bashing SlipKnot and here he goes and bashes Mick, who in MY opinion is the greatest guitarist out there. and yes i can see [I]Mick[/I] playin [B]Kirk Hammet[/B] and [B]Eddie Van Halen[/B] style solos!!!!!

p.s. to the so called Heavy0metal0freak.....stay the **** off the thread you fagget!!!!![/QUOTE]

go to hell
go to hell and u die!
that was disgusting...

TheSubtleArts 10-27-2004 07:59 PM

nobody really cares if you dont liek slipknot people. this is a forum for people who like slipknot to talk about them, just as it says on the firts post if you would read it.

relliK 10-27-2004 08:08 PM

Yeah, but Slipknut666's statement made me sit low in my chair as a Slipknot fan.That was just absurd.

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=relliK]So why exactly do you hate Corey so much?[/QUOTE]

He's a horrible vocalist, and he is one of the main reasons I don't listen to much Slipknot beyond MFKR. Anders wasn't THAT great, but I'd take him over Corey anytime. He's more image than talent.

I can't stand his lyrics primarily, they're so angsty (in a bad way) and childish that they actually laughable. They're based on stupid little catch phrases that a plethora of idiots can relate to.

"If you're 555 then I'm 666" or however it goes, what the hell kind of stupid garbage is that?

His raspy ballady type singing sounds identical to crap like Nickelback or Chevelle. I don't know why he gets credit for doing ballady songs--the raspy voice has been done long ago, and it's been done better. I can't stand his screaming, it has no conviction to me. Basically I don't really like anything he does.

His singing absolutely kills the music for me. If they got a different singer, dropped the samples/DJ/percussionists, I'd probably like them alot more.

Some people like him though, so whatever.

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=slipknut666]ok ok ok i just got pissed when i read his post and he always gives everybody **** for bashing SlipKnot and here he goes and bashes Mick, who in MY opinion is the greatest guitarist out there. and yes i can see Mick playin Kirk Hammet and Eddie Van Halen style solos!!!!!

p.s. to the so called Heavy0metal0freak.....stay the **** off the thread you fagget!!!!![/QUOTE]

Mick plays primarily drop string power chords with the occasional solo. He moves across the strings occasionally, yes, and he is capable of shredding, yes, he does some trem picking, yes, but he's not even in the same league as people who are considered "great."

So before you go whining about your precious opinion, consider that your opinion is wrong.

slipknut666 10-27-2004 09:24 PM

to klein08: what the hell do you know?! youre too much of a ***** to even listen to SlipKnot you moron!!!!!
to mudvayne15923: YOU go to hell and YOU die!!!!!
to rellik: .....what the hell are you talkin about?!

slipknut666 10-27-2004 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]Mick plays primarily drop string power chords with the occasional solo. He moves across the strings occasionally, yes, and he is capable of shredding, yes, he does some trem picking, yes, but he's not even in the same league as people who are considered "great."

So before you go whining about your precious opinion, consider that your opinion is wrong.[/QUOTE]
im ****in sick of your bitchin about SlipKnot. thats all youve been doin on this forum. so do us all a favor.....SHUT THE **** UP!!!!!
p.s. MICK IS GOD!!!!! AND THERE AINT **** YOU OR ANYONE ELSE CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!!

The JoZ 10-27-2004 09:36 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]

So before you go whining about your precious opinion, consider that your opinion is wrong.[/QUOTE]

No.

His opinion may not be justified, but it's not wrong.

slipknut, just shut up though. You're not going to gain any points with anyone here if you keep postin the way you do

slipknut666 10-27-2004 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=The JoZ]
slipknut, just shut up though. You're not going to gain any points with anyone here if you keep postin the way you do[/QUOTE]
ya know what.....WHATEVER
[QUOTE=Paranoidd]
So before you go whining about your precious opinion, consider that your opinion is wrong.[/QUOTE]
wrong my ***, my opinion is my opinion and there aint **** you can do about it BITCH

RavenousMetalist87 10-27-2004 09:53 PM

[QUOTE=slipknut666]im ****in sick of your bitchin about SlipKnot. thats all youve been doin on this forum. so do us all a favor.....SHUT THE **** UP!!!!!
p.s. MICK IS GOD!!!!! AND THERE AINT **** YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!![/QUOTE]

You have to realize this is the internet, and not everyone will agree with you. A lot of people have different opinions, and sometimes they won't always be what you want them to be.

In my opinion, Mick has his own style, but I don't appear to like it. Doesn't meant I hate it, just that I prefer other styles.

Slipknot isn't terrible compared to their new album. I feel the band has grown a lot better than previous albums (besides KMFR).

relliK 10-27-2004 10:06 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]He's a horrible vocalist, and he is one of the main reasons I don't listen to much Slipknot beyond MFKR. Anders wasn't THAT great, but I'd take him over Corey anytime. He's more image than talent.

I can't stand his lyrics primarily, they're so angsty (in a bad way) and childish that they actually laughable. They're based on stupid little catch phrases that a plethora of idiots can relate to.

"If you're 555 then I'm 666" or however it goes, what the hell kind of stupid garbage is that?

His raspy ballady type singing sounds identical to crap like Nickelback or Chevelle. I don't know why he gets credit for doing ballady songs--the raspy voice has been done long ago, and it's been done better. I can't stand his screaming, it has no conviction to me. Basically I don't really like anything he does.

His singing absolutely kills the music for me. If they got a different singer, dropped the samples/DJ/percussionists, I'd probably like them alot more.

Some people like him though, so whatever.[/QUOTE]

Well, Anders' vocals were all about a card game or something like that.At least Corey is trying to say something with his lyrics.While his lyrics are angsty(more so then than now), they really didnt differ too much from oh say Suffocation lyrics or alot of other death metal bands for that matter.I agree with you about those stupid catch phrases.If it were up to me, Heretic Anthem would have never been released, because it is the reason people like slipknut666 like the band.But I can really only name about 3 or 4 songs that have a stupid catch phrase like that so you cant say his lyric writing is based on it.Please read his Vol.3 lyrics and point out what exactly is so childish about them.I see nothing.

IMO he sounds nothing like Nickleback or Chevelle's singer at all.Nor is his voice even that raspy.He has a fairly good singing voice.I dont see why people hate it.

stone sour 10-27-2004 10:25 PM

do you know what i especially hate people who like only old music so they discriminate the newer bands.

DOLEMITE 10-27-2004 10:42 PM

dont really like slipknot but i respect them as musicians

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 10:43 PM

I had vol. 3 before most people, because I'm a download whore :D

I was very disappointed with it from the get go...

The thing kills me about Coreys lyrics is, to me, it seems like he writes in the worst way possible. It's kind of difficult to explain, if you've ever written lyrics, it's the forumla you try to AVOID. The vibe I get off his lyrics is like he has already chosen two words to rhyme, and the rest of verse is simply filler to get to those words...you know what I'm trying to say?

I have screamed until my veins collapsed
I've waited as my time's elapsed

Something like that...it's just weak. It seems like a forced rhyme, like he needed SOMETHING to rhyme with collapsed, so he came up with "elasped" and wrote the verse around it. That's just the vibe that I get from it, you may not agree, and that's fair enough. I can write verses like that too, they may even make sense, but they just don't sound right.

Stuff like "all I've got is insane" is just weak. It's straightforward, yes, and that isn't necessarily bad, but it just sounds stupid to me.

I push my fingers into my eyes
It's the only thing that slowly stops the ache
If the pain goes on,
I'm not gonna make it!

Something like that...it's poor imagery and sounds so forced. OOoooOh I'm hardcore, I push my fingers in my eyes, blah blah. Kids eat this crap up, and I don't know why. It reminds me of those goth kids who act all melancholy just for the sake of doing it, and make poetry like "woe is me" type of crap. It's like saying just for the sake of saying it.

I also find Corey utterly redundant. In "The Pulse Of The Maggots" I was wondering how many times he could possibly say the same thing...was driving me crazy. I got that as a promo before the album came out, and I was hoping the rest of the record didn't sound like that...

Oh, and don't think I meant Anders was a better lyricist, because I think Corey is better...Anders lyrics are bloody well stupid 90% of the time, it's just that if I'm going to listen to lyrics I don't like either way, I'd rather hear Anders. I also liked the music they did on MFKR much better. Tracks like do nothing/bitchslap totally hold my interest. Slipknots newer stuff just seems to drag on to me, and I'm ready to skip ahead before the track is even half done.

I actually defend slipknot alot more than people realize. However, somebody who thinks that Mick is the best in the world is just as stupid as somebody who thinks he's utterly talentless, and it's unfortunate that a majority of slipknot fans don't know how to discuss things without having a heart attack when you suggest to them their opinion isn't accurate (I'm not talking about you Rellik, or guys like Joz. You keep this thread going).

It's just that I'm usually defending Joey or Mick, which isn't too hard. If people complain about Corey, I usually agree.

On a side note:

[url]http://e.myspace.com/00021/94/65/21695649_l.jpg[/url]

Mick's a scary looking guy and I wouldn't want to run into him in an alley.

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 11:01 PM

[QUOTE=slipknut666]im ****in sick of your bitchin about SlipKnot. thats all youve been doin on this forum. so do us all a favor.....SHUT THE **** UP!!!!!
p.s. MICK IS GOD!!!!! AND THERE AINT **** YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!!!!![/QUOTE]

I bitch about/compliment many bands on this forum, not just slipknot. I'm sick of your droneish fanboyism, so do us all a favor and chill out.

P.S. YOU need to go learn how to play guitar, then tell that Mick does anything overly special. He's a good player for what he does, but in no way compares to EVH, who YOU mentioned.

slipknut666 10-27-2004 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I had vol. 3 before most people, because I'm a download whore :D

I was very disappointed with it from the get go...

The thing kills me about Coreys lyrics is, to me, it seems like he writes in the worst way possible. It's kind of difficult to explain, if you've ever written lyrics, it's the forumla you try to AVOID. The vibe I get off his lyrics is like he has already chosen two words to rhyme, and the rest of verse is simply filler to get to those words...you know what I'm trying to say?

I have screamed until my veins collapsed
I've waited as my time's elapsed

Something like that...it's just weak. It seems like a forced rhyme, like he needed SOMETHING to rhyme with collapsed, so he came up with "elasped" and wrote the verse around it. That's just the vibe that I get from it, you may not agree, and that's fair enough. I can write verses like that too, they may even make sense, but they just don't sound right.

Stuff like "all I've got is insane" is just weak. It's straightforward, yes, and that isn't necessarily bad, but it just sounds stupid to me.

I push my fingers into my eyes
It's the only thing that slowly stops the ache
If the pain goes on,
I'm not gonna make it!

Something like that...it's poor imagery and sounds so forced. OOoooOh I'm hardcore, I push my fingers in my eyes, blah blah. Kids eat this crap up, and I don't know why. It reminds me of those goth kids who act all melancholy just for the sake of doing it, and make poetry like "woe is me" type of crap. It's like saying just for the sake of saying it.

I also find Corey utterly redundant. In "The Pulse Of The Maggots" I was wondering how many times he could possibly say the same thing...was driving me crazy. I got that as a promo before the album came out, and I was hoping the rest of the record didn't sound like that...

Oh, and don't think I meant Anders was a better lyricist, because I think Corey is better...Anders lyrics are bloody well stupid 90% of the time, it's just that if I'm going to listen to lyrics I don't like either way, I'd rather hear Anders. I also liked the music they did on MFKR much better. Tracks like do nothing/bitchslap totally hold my interest. Slipknots newer stuff just seems to drag on to me, and I'm ready to skip ahead before the track is even half done.

I actually defend slipknot alot more than people realize. However, somebody who thinks that Mick is the best in the world is just as stupid as somebody who thinks he's utterly talentless, and it's unfortunate that a majority of slipknot fans don't know how to discuss things without having a heart attack when you suggest to them their opinion isn't accurate (I'm not talking about you Rellik, or guys like Joz. You keep this thread going).

It's just that I'm usually defending Joey or Mick, which isn't too hard. If people complain about Corey, I usually agree.

On a side note:

[url]http://e.myspace.com/00021/94/65/21695649_l.jpg[/url]

Mick's a scary looking guy and I wouldn't want to run into him in an alley.[/QUOTE]
ok ok ok i think we've.....
HEY! THATS A REPLICA OF MICKS TATOO ON YOUR ARM ISNT IT!!!!!

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 11:09 PM

?

That IS Mick.

slipknut666 10-27-2004 11:25 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]?

That IS Mick.[/QUOTE]
WHOA ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HOW THE **** DID YOU GET THAT PIC?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
well its a cool pic. and it loox like bottom line here is:
everyone has theyre own opinion about everybody and there's no point in arguing about it.

slipknut666 10-27-2004 11:39 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]

P.S. YOU need to go learn how to play guitar, then tell that Mick does anything overly special. He's a good player for what he does, but in no way compares to EVH, who YOU mentioned.[/QUOTE]
I DO play a Mick Thomson B.C. Rich Warlock and.....its true that his riffs are fairly easy. but the solos for songs like Pulse of the Maggots are ****in CRAZY!!!!! lets hear YOU TRY and play em.....

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 11:39 PM

You thought that was me? :lol:

If I looked like that, I'd be a pro wrestler.

As for where I got them...secret ;)

Here's two more:

[url]http://i.myspace.com/45/07/447054/4953270_l.jpg[/url]
[url]http://c.myspace.com/00019/08/91/19631980_l.jpg[/url]

Enjoy.

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 11:43 PM

[QUOTE=slipknut666]I DO play a Mick Thomson B.C. Rich Warlock and.....its true that his riffs are fairly easy. but the solos for songs like Pulse of the Maggots are ****in CRAZY!!!!! lets hear YOU TRY and play em.....[/QUOTE]

That's my point. Mick shines here and there but generally he plays alot of power chord riffs. Labelling him "the best ever" while there are insane virtuosos around just doesn't make any sense.

The pulse of the maggots solo is good, and interesting, but hearing me play it wouldn't change anything. I probably could if I wanted to take the time to learn it, anyone can play anything if they try, but that isn't the point. Mick is cool, I defend him to alot of people, but you can't even say he is "the best" because he doesn't even come close. You're thinking just because I think he isn't the best that I'm saying he's bad. Not so. I give him credit, but you can't justify what you're saying.

slipknut666 10-27-2004 11:46 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]

Why would you want to hear me play the solo?[/QUOTE]
so you can show everybody how so called "simple"(or whatever everybody keeps callin it) his solos are to play.

Paranoidd 10-27-2004 11:51 PM

I didn't say every one of his solos are "simple" to play. You picked probably his most complicated solo, that isn't a representation of everything he plays. How many slipknot songs even have solos?

slipknut666 10-27-2004 11:58 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]I didn't say every one of his solos are "simple" to play. You picked probably his most complicated solo, that isn't a representation of everything he plays. How many slipknot songs even have solos?[/QUOTE]
they had a bitchin solo in "SIC", but they didnt have any super speedy solos until songs like "Pulse of the Maggots" and "Vermillion".

slipknut666 10-28-2004 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd]That's my point. Mick shines here and there but generally he plays alot of power chord riffs. Labelling him "the best ever" while there are insane virtuosos around just doesn't make any sense.

The pulse of the maggots solo is good, and interesting, but hearing me play it wouldn't change anything. I probably could if I wanted to take the time to learn it, anyone can play anything if they try, but that isn't the point. Mick is cool, I defend him to alot of people, but you can't even say he is "the best" because he doesn't even come close. You're thinking just because I think he isn't the best that I'm saying he's bad. Not so. I give him credit, but you can't justify what you're saying.[/QUOTE]
i guess i misunderstood some of your comments. but atleast you respect Mick and thats cool.....
btw, why have alot of people been hatin on Corey latley??

TheSubtleArts 10-28-2004 01:35 PM

[QUOTE]You thought that was me?

If I looked like that, I'd be a pro wrestler.

As for where I got them...secret

Here's two more:

[url]http://i.myspace.com/45/07/447054/4953270_l.jpg[/url]
[url]http://c.myspace.com/00019/08/91/19631980_l.jpg[/url]

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

you can get those pics and more on [url]www.black-goat.com[/url]

TheSubtleArts 10-28-2004 01:38 PM

[QUOTE]I didn't say every one of his solos are "simple" to play. You picked probably his most complicated solo, that isn't a representation of everything he plays. How many slipknot songs even have solos?[/QUOTE]

i think just welcome, vermillion, and pulse of the maggots have solos. all off the neww album too.

slipknut666 10-28-2004 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=MuDvAyNe3B]i think just welcome, vermillion, and pulse of the maggots have solos. all off the neww album too.[/QUOTE]
yeah that solo in "Welcome" is pretty badass to.....

TheSubtleArts 10-28-2004 06:47 PM

^ i hate that i can never find good tabs for welcome or the solo for vermilion.

Ouch me noggin 10-29-2004 02:39 AM

Does anyone know where i can get mate feed kill repeat?

Paranoidd 10-29-2004 05:48 AM

It's out of print. Only way you can get it is to download it.

TheSubtleArts 10-29-2004 01:47 PM

^ or buy it on ebay for like $300

The JoZ 10-29-2004 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=MuDvAyNe3B]^ i hate that i can never find good tabs for welcome or the solo for vermilion.[/QUOTE]

I tabbed out the Vermilion solo.

It isn't perfect, but a few people have told me it was pretty accurate sounding...

TheSubtleArts 10-29-2004 01:52 PM

^is it on mx tabs?

The JoZ 10-29-2004 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=Paranoidd](I'm not talking about you Rellik, or guys like Joz. You keep this thread going).

[/QUOTE]


:thumb:

I have to cut through the same BS for being a Tool fan. Like, there are idiot Tool fans who have given all Tool fans a bad rep.

And you cite Corey's lyrics in "Duality" as being weak...well, I won't argue that those particular lyrics aren't that great, but how about the lyrics in "Circle", "The Blister Exists" or "Vermilion"? Aside from Duality, I think he's matured in terms of his lyrics, compared to stuff off Iowa "I wanna slit your throat, f*ck the wound" "If you're 555, I'm 666", "You are all f*cked, and overrated, I think I'm gonna be sick and it's your fault" or stuff off the S/T "All you wanna do is drag me down, all I wanna do is stamp you out", "Get this or die! (x20)" etc.

The JoZ 10-29-2004 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=MuDvAyNe3B]^is it on mx tabs?[/QUOTE]

No, it isn't yet.

I will put my tab of Vermilion up later when I have nothing better to do, I have to go for now

double post ++

TheSubtleArts 10-29-2004 02:00 PM

^if your a good tabber, you should tab welcome. i cant find any of that eather, ive tryed tabbing it but i suck so bad at it.

maggot4875 10-29-2004 02:40 PM

ive been wanting to play welcome its got such a sic solo to


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