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moaner 08-23-2005 02:50 AM

broekn link, but yes, he means somehting like the behringer v-amp 2.

Kirk's Puppet 08-23-2005 02:53 AM

However, you linked to the X V-Amp. Get the V-Amp 2, with the 2, or the V-Amp Pro, they are better.

super_kick08 08-23-2005 10:39 AM

kudos to theabstract and wire :thumb:

Wire 08-23-2005 08:11 PM

[QUOTE=gocaps99]Finally! Thank you very much.


Ok so tell me some more. What actually is the interface? What do you plug it into and what do you run to it? What does it do? Do both of the programs you recommended have it and which do you like better? I have a mixer already, do I run...

Guitar -> Pedals/Amp -> Shure SM57 microphone -> Mixer -> Interface -> Software? that makes sense to me, but I'm not very smart when it comes to this stuff[/QUOTE]


The Interface is a small box that connects to your computer via a USB2.0 port or a Firewire port. (I recomend getting a firewire card as they are a LOT faster and reduce 'latency' which is the time it takes for your input signal (guitar) to get processed in the computer and spat out as a wav file.)

([url]www.presonus.com[/url] for info on the Firebox)

I like Cubase better as I've been using it longer than Pro-Tools. But converting a guy from Cubase to Pro-Tools is like converting the kid from Pepsi to Coke.


AS for hoook up:

Guitar -> Amp -> Shure SM57 -> Interface -> Computer

Now thats if all your doing is recording guitar.

Guitar -> Amp -> SM57 -> Mixer
Bass -> Direct Box -> Mixer Mixer -> Interface -> Computer
Drum Mics -> Mixer


Any help?

jam9383 08-23-2005 10:57 PM

[QUOTE=Kirk's Puppet]However, you linked to the X V-Amp. Get the V-Amp 2, with the 2, or the V-Amp Pro, they are better.[/QUOTE]

thanks ill try to get one off eBAy

lightningmetal666 08-23-2005 11:18 PM

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me. I have the program audacity and I need to convert those files to Mp3 format. I'm from the Metallica forum and some of the guys (including me) want to upload a cover. I want to record the Rhythm part of "For Whom The Bell Tolls", and upload it so the other guys get a feel for my playing. Any suggestions as to how I might be able to do that? I've tried using lame.com and it really is as the name suggests. Any other good decoder suggestions?

allthegoodnamesweregone 08-24-2005 06:06 AM

google mp3 encoders...

Joe 08-24-2005 08:54 AM

[QUOTE=Wire]The Interface is a small box that connects to your computer via a USB2.0 port or a Firewire port. (I recomend getting a firewire card as they are a LOT faster and reduce 'latency' which is the time it takes for your input signal (guitar) to get processed in the computer and spat out as a wav file.)

([url]www.presonus.com[/url] for info on the Firebox)

I like Cubase better as I've been using it longer than Pro-Tools. But converting a guy from Cubase to Pro-Tools is like converting the kid from Pepsi to Coke.


AS for hoook up:

Guitar -> Amp -> Shure SM57 -> Interface -> Computer

Now thats if all your doing is recording guitar.

Guitar -> Amp -> SM57 -> Mixer
Bass -> Direct Box -> Mixer Mixer -> Interface -> Computer
Drum Mics -> Mixer


Any help?[/QUOTE]

sweet, thanks.

ok here's a completely different problem. i downloaded cakewalk (so i can record while saving up for something better) and when i record on the program the speakers come back with the guitar but it's extremely fuzzy and static-y and echo-y. anyone got any idea as to what it is? it's sonar 2

[QUOTE]google mp3 encoders...[/QUOTE]

those ones suck.

allthegoodnamesweregone 08-24-2005 10:21 AM

ihhh the sony one is ament to be epic... thought of buying it... its £17 (i think) but it is ament be fantastic

airborne50caliber 08-24-2005 10:58 AM

The sony one is meant to be epic.. good joke

allthegoodnamesweregone 08-24-2005 03:33 PM

im glad you saw it...

airborne50caliber 08-25-2005 03:56 AM

I don't think many did

The Falling 09-28-2005 01:15 AM

sorry if this questions been asked before but which recording program would you recomend for a beginer recorder? and also would you recommend fruity loops for a drum midi program for beginer?
thanks

airborne50caliber 09-28-2005 10:12 AM

audacity

allthegoodnamesweregone 09-29-2005 04:01 PM

yup audaccity for beginers although i find that recording to logic hit kit (on pc this is) then mixing on audacity is **** fine... due the teh fact you have plug ins via audacity and midi/synths via hit kit...

CrazyDrummer09 09-30-2005 08:06 AM

[QUOTE=theabstract][U][B]LESSON 1[/B][/U]

Seting up your Home Studio
The following are essentials in [U]decent[/U] home recording setups
-PC
-Soundcard
-Mixer
-Microphones
-recording software
-Monitors
-headphone
-a spare room

[U]P.C.[/U]
In a big studio like mine, the mixer is the heart of the setup. In a home recording setup, the computer filles this space. Your computer needs to be good enough that it's not going to blow up, or freeze while your in the middle of recording. Any new PC bought from a shop nowdays is ussually pretty good. I suggest spending about $600 on the PC, unless of course you have one already!

[U]SoundCard[/U]
The souncard you choose really depends on how many different sources your going to record at the one time. Soundblaster make really great cards for home recording. If your only recording one thing at a time, then you can use the sound card that comes with the PC. If your a 3-4-5 piece band then I would sugest the Sound Blaster Audigi 2 platnum external card. They Have 5 inputs and are great for bands!

[U]Microphones[/U]
Depending on what your recording, a studio needs a good microphone, or several good microphones. I will run down different models and how to use them effectively in a later lesson. Just to give you an idea, you can spend anywhere beween 50 and 700 dollars.

[U]Mixer[/U]
A mixer you can live without, but they are truly very, very, helful. The mixer is always conected to the sound card, so you can plug whatever you recording into the mixer and ajust the eq and input level on the mixer. Mixers can also be very handy to record drums, for example, you plug all the mics on the kit (snare, kick, toms etc) into the mixer, adjust the levels and eq and then all the mics come out as one stereo signal, therfore only taking up two of your inputs.

[U]Recording Software[/U]
There so much recording software out there today that its not funny! The best program by far for begginer recordists (is that a word?). The only problem it wont record from multiple sources. Enter Cubase. Cubasis takes a very, very long time to figure out, but once you have, it is well worth it. Other programs include cakewalk, fruity loopz 4, sonar, logic. Its really up to the user to decide which one they like. You can download them all from Kazaa.

[U]Monitors[/U]
Monitors is a fancy word for studio speakers. Monitors arn't just like your average CD player speakers. CD player speakers are designed to make the music sound as good as possible. Thats not what you want. Thats why studio monitors are designed extremely nuetral, so that they play exactly whats coming out of the computer. This prevents the following scenario:
Jonny Producer Dude records a local rock band. This is his first time he's recorded a band because he's just set up his studio. Johny has just spent heaps of hard earned cash on gear for his studio, but Jonny doesn't know ****. Jonny and the band have spent a week on the new demo. They are listening to the songs through the monitors, which just so happen to be his CD player speakers, and it sounds awsome! The band pay jonny lots of thier hard earned cash, get thier CD and go home. On the way home, Bill Drummer, and Frank singer decide they are going to put on the CD. It starts playing but it sounds like ****. Frank and Bill turn around and drive back to johnnys house and lets just say he wont produce another CD in a while! If your music sounds good on real monitors, it'll sound good on any CD Player! Behringer Truth monitors rock!

[U]Headphones[/U]
You NEED these. In my studio I have 5 pairs of headphones. You need these. There is nothing worse than having a great vocal track ruined because the vocal mic picked up the monitors! the soloution: headphones! Not Earplugs, Headphones! When your recording something, the only thing the mic should hear is the thing you want on that track.

[U]A Room[/U]
You might say yeah whatever I can do it in my garage, or bedroom, and thats fine... If you want to be P***ed of while you record and p***ed of when your doing stuff in your room. Besides it being anoying trying to record while theres mess everywhere, acoustics are very important also. So a room that you can do stuff to the walls in is great (i also wouldn't want to live in a bedroom that has blankets hanging on the walls!
I'll go through how to treat a room for acoustics in another lesson...

[U]Conclusion[/U]
So thats what youll need!
Please comment on the lessons and ask questions and i have a go at answering them!
If you want you cant tell me to shut my big mouth too.

Next lesson, I'll go through how to connect the studio together, and some basics on how to get is running. Also I'll go through acoustic design and studio layout

Have fun buying all your Gear![/QUOTE]

Do the monitors need to be active or passive?

allthegoodnamesweregone 09-30-2005 08:21 AM

uhhh i dnt think it matters

moaner 09-30-2005 08:53 AM

depends if you want to buy an amp for them or not

slpntrx5 10-06-2005 09:31 PM

okay, here's wahat i have in my "setup"

tascam 4 track recorder (not really necessary, is it?)
2 shure sm57's
behringer eurorack ub802 mixer
lots of leads
audacity
the 2 inputs in the back of my computer (line and mic)
50 dollars (american)
my family pc
my laptop (with only a mic input)
a noob band that's broke as ****
the need for an ok quality demo

now, here's my questions:

1.do i need to buy a special soundcard and if so what kind and why?
2.if i don't need a soundcard, then which plugin should i use?
3.will you send me some money?
4.do i need monitors or studio headphones?
5.what should i record together? (ie guitars,bass,and drums and do the vox seperately or what?)
6. do i need more mics?(obviously for the drums, but any special mics for the vox?)

allthegoodnamesweregone 10-07-2005 05:32 AM

ok thats a nice set up now yo answer your question

1) no the one ytou have will record BUT the quality will be poor and you will HAVE to get the levles right on the mixer

2) i recomend another sound card however the can be expensive one with 8 tracks as pci should be ok as for plug in's i dot understand

3) no will you send me money

4) Both idealy however if your short on money normal closed heads phones will do

5 i recomend them all seperatly but thats only best done with a large sound card with multipul inuts

6) more mics, you could use a condenser however for a live demo (which i guess you will be doing i think a sm57 will be nmore than fine

some asdvice is to Mic the gutair cabs and run the bass directly into the mixer but ddeffanatly more mics...

Joe 10-08-2005 02:14 PM

Ok so i've got a few questions about my set up too

two cheap mics that pick up very well
cheap cables
eurotrack ub1622FX pro mixer
-> computer sound card
cubase

my problem is is that the recording gets there too slowly. when i play it back it's delayed a little bit and it's a painful experience getting it exactly right. does anyone have any ideas how to make it faster for not too much $ (don't have a job yet, but that's coming around)?

Also, recommended was the Sound Blaster Audigi 2. Is this one any good?

[url]http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1251021/skd=1/search=sound+blaster+audigy+2[/url]

master_yoda_2 10-10-2005 05:20 AM

sorry if these questions have already been asked but

1.Are Behringer mixers any good. Im considering the 1202FX.

2.Would connecting a guitar amp recording out straight to the mixer or computer sound better or worse than just micing the amp

3 I want to record my 5 piece drum kit. How would I be able to record it on a 4 mic input mixer

Phototropic 10-10-2005 06:36 AM

[QUOTE=master_yoda_2]sorry if these questions have already been asked but

1.Are Behringer mixers any good. Im considering the 1202FX.

2.Would connecting a guitar amp recording out straight to the mixer or computer sound better or worse than just micing the amp

3 I want to record my 5 piece drum kit. How would I be able to record it on a 4 mic input mixer[/QUOTE]

1. Duno sorry :(

2. Micing the amp is always better than going direct, you get better vibe, atomsphere and usually tone

3. 1 mic for the snare / hi-hat, 1 mic for the bass drum, 2 over head for the cymbals and toms

(not really experienced with recording drums :upset: )

10571z 10-10-2005 06:46 AM

hey guys im confused just say i have a mixer it has a 8 tracks and i have a computer with a 8 trakc soundcard and i put a lead lineout of the amp into the computer will that come out as 8 tracks in the computer how does it work some explain !!!! please

moaner 10-10-2005 10:45 AM

don't panic. commas, calm and karma go a long way.

no, it won't. unless the mixer is a digital mixer with a digital out and the soundcard has a digital input.

darrell 10-10-2005 11:53 AM

[QUOTE=Joe]Ok so i've got a few questions about my set up too

two cheap mics that pick up very well
cheap cables
eurotrack ub1622FX pro mixer
-> computer sound card
cubase

my problem is is that the recording gets there too slowly. when i play it back it's delayed a little bit and it's a painful experience getting it exactly right. does anyone have any ideas how to make it faster for not too much $ (don't have a job yet, but that's coming around)?

Also, recommended was the Sound Blaster Audigi 2. Is this one any good?

[URL=http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=1251021/skd=1/search=sound+blaster+audigy+2]Longest Link Ever[/URL] [/QUOTE]

We had that problem. It's your computer. We had two computers to use, but one we couldn't use at the moment so we used the other one. After about 20 minutes of playing around with it, we realized that the computer wasn't up to par for recording and used the other one. Problem free after that.

Best bet is to get a computer strictly for recording if you are serious about it. Don't go on the internet with it... Don't do anything. Just record.

But that's just me.

slpntrx5 10-10-2005 06:46 PM

[QUOTE=allthegoodnamesweregone]ok thats a nice set up now yo answer your question

1) no the one ytou have will record BUT the quality will be poor and you will HAVE to get the levles right on the mixer

2) i recomend another sound card however the can be expensive one with 8 tracks as pci should be ok as for plug in's i dot understand

3) no will you send me money

4) Both idealy however if your short on money normal closed heads phones will do

5 i recomend them all seperatly but thats only best done with a large sound card with multipul inuts

6) more mics, you could use a condenser however for a live demo (which i guess you will be doing i think a sm57 will be nmore than fine

some asdvice is to Mic the gutair cabs and run the bass directly into the mixer but ddeffanatly more mics...[/QUOTE]


****! i need more answers than 1!!! :confused:

ATC 10-11-2005 05:55 PM

Do you guys know what a good program to sample out certain parts of existing songs might be?
For example, I need to get just the chorus of Nevermore's I am the Dog for sampling in a little songwriting project for my uni course.

fuzzyhair 10-11-2005 06:29 PM

Okay this is sorda on subject but anyway...
I ran my mic through an older guitar amp and it sounds fine, i am satisfied with that. But I was getting a load of feedback, and it was making me angry, i read on the internet that to kill the feedback just turn the treble down and the bass all the way up. Does this sound right or what should I do? The amp has been sung through before, and i got it for free, so i dont really care if it dies or not, but it works now :). thanks.

fuzzyhair 10-12-2005 06:50 PM

[QUOTE=ATC]Do you guys know what a good program to sample out certain parts of existing songs might be?
For example, I need to get just the chorus of Nevermore's I am the Dog for sampling in a little songwriting project for my uni course.[/QUOTE]
audacity, just highlight where the chorus is, copy, delete the song, and paste it back in audacity.

Ok I need an answer to my question.

10571z 10-13-2005 06:40 AM

hey can anyone tell me what a compressor does??? im wanna take my home reocridng further.. also anylink to cheap ones would be good thanks!

airborne50caliber 10-13-2005 08:59 AM

Behringer Mdx2600, excellent piece of gear

AbInitio 10-16-2005 12:57 AM

[QUOTE=10571z]hey can anyone tell me what a compressor does??? im wanna take my home reocridng further.. also anylink to cheap ones would be good thanks![/QUOTE]

Put simply, it narrows the dynamic range.....so it makes "quiet" sounds louder, and keeps the "loud" sounds level, but this all depends on how you set the controls.

I don't know much about any cheap ones......are you talking about rackmount or....??

Try behringer, or look on ebay for used. i've seen some reasonable priced compresseors on there, but i have no idea of their quality.

EDIT: [QUOTE=airborne50caliber]Behringer Mdx2600, excellent piece of gear[/QUOTE]

That looks good, very good for the price, and it does much more than basic compression.

[url]http://www.behringer.com/MDX2600/index.cfm?lang=ENG[/url]

sinister 10-16-2005 12:51 PM

Hey guys, my band didnt plan ahead for recording so i was wondering if you could help us sort ourselves out. Keep in mind, we like it cheap and cheerful (but mainly cheap)

Our set up is like this:
guitar 1 direct output to mixer \
guitar 2 direct output to mixer \ mixer is Peavey PV 6
bass amp micked to mixer /
drums micked to mixer /

After the mixer is where our problem is, we want to plug it into PC and record using audacity but the pc at the house where we recorded dosnt have a specialist sound card so all of the inputs are mono and the mixer output is stereo. We are planning to overdub the vocals later.

At the moment we are:
record instruments to tape, record vocals to different tape, record music off tapes to pc and splice together
But that sucks, because its hard to mix and tapes loose quality.

What can we do? Sorry for the long post, just wanted to give all the details.

allthegoodnamesweregone 10-16-2005 03:37 PM

buy an external sound card/pci soundcard???

sinister 10-17-2005 11:24 AM

I'll look into it, thanks, any good recomendations?

allthegoodnamesweregone 10-17-2005 01:58 PM

uhh edirol, m-audio,tascam...

airborne50caliber 10-18-2005 11:27 AM

you say ALL of the [I]inputs[/I] are mono. That means you have at least 2 mono inputs. I believe you have two mono outputs on your mixer for the stereo signal. This will be perfectly accepted by youir soundcard

blader 10-18-2005 01:14 PM

Does a laptop do instead of a P.C?it might be on here but i aint read all the posts.

mshort813 10-18-2005 09:26 PM

So, I have some questions for anyone that can intelligently answer them for me.


First, what is more important, in your opinion, the software or the hardware? Big question, I know, but is there one I should be paying attention to more than the other?

Second, I have a 2 input mbox and I'm looking to get a mixer. I only have USB to work with. Do I need to get a mixer that is USB compatible or can I plug the mixer into the mbox, then to the computer? What is the best setup for this?

Third, reccommend me some good mixers for recording. I don't need much more than 8 or so inputs, and I'm willing to spend up to $350-400.


Thank you to anyone who can answer any of these, I seriously love you.

Also, theabstract, youre awesome.


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