thanx a lot man, thats good to know, although do u suggest i buy a more powerful system, to reach that professional quality, my plan's to buy whatever i need now and not have to upgrade until maybe 6-10 years down the road.

anyway, has anyone tested out the new FX model for the UB1202, is the only difference that its got FX options now, or has the performance been heightened?

i dont have much on hand experience with computer studio equipment, i read the offsite articles and learn from peoples posts, if i know an answer to a question no doubt i promise to answer it haha, so can someone tell me if there's a better mixer out there than this within almost the same price range?

i just don't wanna make a big mistake that i'll end up regrettin after

i would chceck [url]www.musiciansfriend.com[/url] they have some really good deals

i somewhat disagree.....instead of using a pc, i just have my mixer plugged straight into a cd recorder, and we(my band) records it all live, the old fashioned way....so if you're cheap and/or like analog, you can skip the pc

[QUOTE=7pc13]i somewhat disagree.....instead of using a pc, i just have my mixer plugged straight into a cd recorder, and we(my band) records it all live, the old fashioned way....so if you're cheap and/or like analog, you can skip the pc[/QUOTE]
That's one way to do things if you feel that's the way you're best recording. But if you multi-track/overdub then you'll be able to edit/add effects to each sound individually, it's easier to erase mistakes if you mess up, and it will generally sound more modern and bright (if you know what you're doing.)

[QUOTE=7pc13]i somewhat disagree.....instead of using a pc, i just have my mixer plugged straight into a cd recorder, and we(my band) records it all live, the old fashioned way....so if you're cheap and/or like analog, you can skip the pc[/QUOTE]

recording "live2 is not the old fashioned way. its usually quite a bad idea, for the following reasons:

You need so many mixer inputs

once its done, you can't change levels etc

you get leaking from one instrument to another

You can't add FX to just one instrument afterwards

one mistake from one person and you have to start again.

Ok i have a question regarding recording:

When we record at my house, i use a Yamaha Mg10/2 Mixer, with 4 mic inputs. When i record the drums, i use all 4 inputs for mics around the kit.

But what i am confused about is how to set up my mixer so that the drummer can listen to a mix of both the guitarist and bassist when recording drums and they can both listen to the mix as well. Everyone would each have their own set of H/phones. I have tried using the Aux, but that appears to be in Mono, so the sound only comes out of one ear, and there is only 1 Aux out on my mixer, which means that i'd have to use a splitter to split the signal into the 3 sets of headphones. i have heard of a "Head Phones amp", apparently that would help, but i dont know anything about that.

[QUOTE=NotForSale.co.za]Ok i have a question regarding recording:

When we record at my house, i use a Yamaha Mg10/2 Mixer, with 4 mic inputs. When i record the drums, i use all 4 inputs for mics around the kit.

But what i am confused about is how to set up my mixer so that the drummer can listen to a mix of both the guitarist and bassist when recording drums and they can both listen to the mix as well. Everyone would each have their own set of H/phones. I have tried using the Aux, but that appears to be in Mono, so the sound only comes out of one ear, and there is only 1 Aux out on my mixer, which means that i'd have to use a splitter to split the signal into the 3 sets of headphones. i have heard of a "Head Phones amp", apparently that would help, but i dont know anything about that.[/QUOTE]

you need to plug the aux out into a headphone amp (at least 3 way, do a 4 way headphone amp) into which you can plug in your phones.

headphone amps usually cost a bit, for what they are.

Thanks moaner, can you recommend me any cheap but good head Phones amps?

[QUOTE=NotForSale.co.za]Thanks moaner, can you recommend me any cheap but good head Phones amps?[/QUOTE]

the "ART HEADAMP" 4 channel headpohone amp is about as cheap as you're oging to get.

behringer announced one in NAMM for about £30, to be out 2nd quarter.

thanks again moaner, but im still a little confused. Would i connect this to the Aux out on my mixer? the Aux out seems to be in mono when i connect h/phones directly into it, but would it become stereo if i connected this to it?

[QUOTE=NotForSale.co.za]thanks again moaner, but im still a little confused. Would i connect this to the Aux out on my mixer? the Aux out seems to be in mono when i connect h/phones directly into it, but would it become stereo if i connected this to it?[/QUOTE]

what mixer do you have?

you should have 2 aux outs, left and right. you would then use a Y splitter to merge this to one stereo output.

the behringer you speak of [URL=http://www.behringer.com/HA400/index.cfm?lang=ENG]*link*[/URL] is going to be around £15 :)

Gaz x

[QUOTE=gaz12369]the behringer you speak of [URL=http://www.behringer.com/HA400/index.cfm?lang=ENG]*link*[/URL] is going to be around £15 :)

Gaz x[/QUOTE]

wow...

indeed, their also bringing out a line mixer and a hum destroyer in the same style, also both set to be £15 :D

how much do neural speakers cost roughly???

[QUOTE=gaz12369]indeed, their also bringing out a line mixer and a hum destroyer in the same style, also both set to be £15 :D[/QUOTE]

and a full range of guitar stompboxes for £15

and a guitar DI with 3 amp models and speaker sim for £30 odd

heh yes im looking forward to june/july :D

Moaner, i have a yamaha MG10/2 mixer. It has an Aux Pre (when the aux knob is turned left) and an Aux Post(when the aux knob is turned right). But i cant obvoiusly have the pre and post Aux's used on one channel at the same time. How would that Y splitter jack help me then?

The lessons were informative, but i like to get a little more in depth of what I'm going to be doing. Are there any books you guys have read or even just looked at that you recommend?

Thanks

[QUOTE=trueman]how much do neural speakers cost roughly???[/QUOTE]


any 1??

From around £50 for budget ones, and the sky is the limit...you could pay well over £2000 for monitors, probably far more than that.

Gaz x

ok thanks man

What about recording with a multitrack recording unit? How well does this work, and will it produce good quality sound. (I mean useing a multitrack recordrign unti instead of a pc.) I already ahve a mixer and several good quality mics. Thanks for any help. And can you suggest any multitrack recorders?

[QUOTE=blackbird2]What about recording with a multitrack recording unit? How well does this work, and will it produce good quality sound. (I mean useing a multitrack recordrign unti instead of a pc.) I already ahve a mixer and several good quality mics. Thanks for any help. And can you suggest any multitrack recorders?[/QUOTE]

yes, you can get some pretty decent results.

Look at the tascam porta range.

[QUOTE=moaner]yes, you can get some pretty decent results.

Look at the tascam porta range.[/QUOTE]

Does everyone remember the mp3 I linked to of a cd quality country song done on a tascam 424 mkIII?
It's more the mics and external units you use with it, if you put cheap mics in with bad cables, you'll get noise, if you use good quality equipment and use it well, you'll get good results.

[QUOTE]Does everyone remember the mp3 I linked to of a cd quality country song done on a tascam 424 mkIII?[/QUOTE]


Could you re-post or link me to it, i havnt heard that:( Also could you just put a short list of all the equipment you used (mics etc?)

Thanks, Gaz

[QUOTE=gaz12369]Could you re-post or link me to it, i havnt heard that:( Also could you just put a short list of all the equipment you used (mics etc?)

Thanks, Gaz[/QUOTE]

It wasn't something I'd done, but I'll post everything I find.
[url]http://www.banjr.com/audio.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.joshbecker.com/music/[/url]
[url]http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/toddedwards/from/folklib[/url]
[url]http://www.bryankimsey.com/music/clips.htm[/url]
[url]http://chrw.usc.uwo.ca/mp3/2003/Scott%20Walmsley%20-%20Best%20of%20Scott%20and%20his%20Kemikul%20Orkistra/walmsley5.htm[/url] (download jedi mind tricks :lol: )

That's only a few I found, not many have a full rock set up. But if the tascam can give great quality acoustic and electric, then it can give great drums e.t.c.
Hope that helped :)

I'm planning to do some recording over the summer break (July and August), as I'm almost guaranteed to have lots and lots of free time. So I figure I could actually do something with my time, this includes recording drums, bass, guitar, and a slight chance of vocals, but most likely not.

What I think I need, (or at least want):
- Sm57 (1)
- Beta 52 (1)
- Beta 98D/S (3)
- Ksm109 or Ksm27, don't know between the two. (2)
- Room mics, one or two. (condensers?)
- A mixer to accomodate these mics, with 4 outputs. (Snare, Bass Drum, Toms, Room/Overheads)
- A soundcard to accomodate said outputs, and normal speakers.

I know there's a flaw somewhere in there, so I'd like some help with:

- Good mixers, options with them, etc
- Good soundcard
- Any other mics I should consider (the tom mics are absolutely tiny, makes me uncertain)
- What mics to use as Room Mics

Any help will be appreciated. I know most of my mic placement, but I suck when it comes to the technical side of things. I already have recording software to do this with. I'm mostly thinking I will rent this stuff for the break, but there's a tiny chance of me affording it by that time.

Thanks in advance.

you probably don't want to try and reocrd each drum mic as a seperate track. I'd get yourself a behringer mixer (maybe that 5 mic 5 line peavey clone?), and a USB audio interface (look at m-audio)

what country are you in?